Is the NVIDIA Tegra 4 faster than the Qualcomm Snapdragon 800?
If it all sounds like a guess based on less than solid evidence, well, what else can it be if the chips have not even been produced? And based on a more mathematical based estimate, Qualcomm's new top-line 800 should actually beat out the Tegra 4. Consider that the latter scored scored 16,436 in the general-purpose Quadrant v2 benchmark. The Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 scored 12,417. Taking that score and adjusting it from the 1.7GHz clock speed of the '600' and computing it for the 2.3GHz '800' results in a score of 16,799 without factoring in any improvement to the Krait 400 core.
Not only is it really too close to call, but again, we are even dealing with the actual chips. According to Microprocessor Report, the Tegra chips are designed for speed at the cost of high power consumption, while the Qualcomm chips offer power efficiency. This means that in head-to-head competition, the Tegra 4 should beat the Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 in benchmark tests.
source: MicroprocessorReport (subscription req'd), Barron's via AndroidAuthority
1. MC1123 (Posts: 1254; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)
wasnt this tegra 4 put into benchmark before yet it apple's ax chip still outnumber it? or was that a different chip
19. ahmed_ali_yossef2010 (Posts: 163; Member since: 26 Jul 2012)
no it was against tegra 4
but this was just gpu perfomance not cpu as well
27. Pedro0x (Posts: 271; Member since: 19 Oct 2012)
Actually, NVIDIA showed results of tegra 4 and it beats Ipad 4. Tegra 4 got 57 fps in glbenchmark offscreen 1080p and Ipad 4 gets 51.9 fps. In CPU Tegra 4 wins ofcourse by a great margin.
28. ahmed_ali_yossef2010 (Posts: 163; Member since: 26 Jul 2012)
and even if it beat the ipad 4 it will be just 5 fps different from a tablet from the last year " when a tablet is released with tegra 4 it would be around 8-12 months from the ipad 4 "
but i say it's just a prototype and the final version could be better
29. Pedro0x (Posts: 271; Member since: 19 Oct 2012)
But it is still very good of NVIDIA because every time they published a new tegra, everyone outperformed it, but now they can´t, in a few months it will surely be outperfomered again. And that link that you send, it was just a prototype.
31. ahmed_ali_yossef2010 (Posts: 163; Member since: 26 Jul 2012)
yes it's very good
but there are no new gpus until now
adreno 320 is from the last year
a6x chip is from the last year
and we didn't see the new gpu in the new ipad " expected to be the moster " or the iphone
or the gs4
2. kvk066 (Posts: 18; Member since: 27 Feb 2013)
We will know who beats whom only when the final products with these chipsets are launched. Until then, calculations, estimations blah blah will not really matter...some jobless reporters/analysts writing some nonsense for chip that are not even manufactured sounds silly...Beating benchmarks is not a big deal if you increase the clock frequency to the max limit as they do not care about power or thermal. But final products do care a lot about Power which tegra failed till now in the products that were released....Lets wait for final products...
14. nikenturd (unregistered)
well said....I have a feeling that Nvidia was desperately looking for ''customers'' aka handset makers which was why they did the Antutu stunt. Only the final product that matters ayt.
3. sintruder (Posts: 72; Member since: 30 Aug 2012)
i don't think so and even if it does snapdragon 800 has far more interesting features and fully supports open gl es 3.0
6. sintruder (Posts: 72; Member since: 30 Aug 2012)
if didn't matter why did qualcomm add the support for open gl 3.0
5. _Bone_ (Posts: 2149; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
We haven't even seen SD800 benchs or Adreno 330 capabilities, plus the Tegra4 scores were on a heat-sinked wall-powered tablet that was probably overcloked to crap for attention. To make things worse, if the 4 is too hungry for phones, there's no way in hell nVidia will be competitive with the 4i, which is A9 rebranded.
13. nikenturd (unregistered)
The 4i is for phones, which wont probably beat the Snapdragon anyways.
20. Pedro0x (Posts: 271; Member since: 19 Oct 2012)
Tegra 4i won´t be able to beat Snapdragon 600 in cpu performance, but in raw GPU will probably win Tegra 4i. Tegra 4i should have 60-80% of the power that Tegra 4 has and Tegra 4 can outperform Ipad 4 in GPU benchmarks so that means that Tegra 4i will have around 50GFLOPS in raw GPU performance, which is more than adreno 320 which has I think about 35 GFLOPS. Ofcourse raw performance is not everythink, Tegra 4 GPU does not have unified shaders for example so that will make it weaker for example in triangle throughput.
Tegra 4i should be pretty good, because ´´according to NVIDIA´´ it should be very power efficient and if it will be overclocked to 2,3 GHz as NVIDIA said it will be pretty good. Tegra 4i is also build on the latest A9 architecture r4p1 so it should bring some more performance.
Snapdragon 800 vs Tegra 4, that will be a pretty interesting fight, we´ll just have to wait, because it is all just speculation. And by the way, you really trust Quadrant? I can not believe that everyone uses it. Use glbenchmarks, much more reliable, but it only a software so even glbenchmark can be optimized, right?
7. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
But what about Antutu?
The Exynos octa is also ARM A15 based chip, clocked at 1.8ghz, just like Tegra 4.. and has an early scores at around 26000.
That's only 3000 points ahead of the 1.7ghz snapdragon 600.
What makes Tegra 4 so powerful in comparison? (unbelievable 36000 points)
10. nikenturd (unregistered)
A tweaked test unit ( ie...complete disregard for battery efficiency) doesnt reflect the final product scores...36000 oh well, we shall see.
11. XiphiasGladius (Posts: 813; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)
Impressive score by the tegra4. But ever since I bought a Lenovo s890 (1.2ghz MTK Dual Core + 1gig RAM + JB) the phone is smooth sa buuuuutttteeer! I now don't fully believe in CPU benchmarks anymore. At the end of the day what matters is how OEM's optimize their phones to perform great.
9. nikenturd (unregistered)
Nvidia is ALL TALK....why cant they just wait for the final production handset before they brag? People dont want to see a tweaked guinea pig tablet that runs ''awesomely fast '' with Tegra4 in it....It wont be long till Exynos and Qualcom thrashes them yet again....as it was proven from time to time
12. Captain_Doug (Posts: 940; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
I'm not too worried about which is more powerful. At this point, the 600, 800, 4, 4i and even the S4 Pro are more than powerful enough for me. I'm more worried about which is most power efficient. Also, I'm still on a Dinc2 so any of those will be a huge upgrade.
25. atsamman (Posts: 74; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)
U are absolutely right
These new chips are so fast its crazy I dont care any more which has the more powerfull processing
Only 2 thing for me are important 1-power efficiency and 2-gpu
those are what they should really be focusing on
15. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Nvidia can't beat Qualcomm, because Nvidia is only good for playing games on devices.
16. BattleBrat (Posts: 1291; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
What else would one need all that power for, if not games?
18. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Qualcomm Snapdragon, I guess....
17. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Almost every high end devices use Snapdragon right?
21. Pedro0x (Posts: 271; Member since: 19 Oct 2012)
That is true, but it can also depend on that Tegra 4 or 4i are not even not on market, they will soon. The only processor which is available is Snapdragon. I´d also guess that Snapdragon apq8064 and 600 are cheaper than Tegra 4.
22. sonofzeus (Posts: 95; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
Tegra 4i is half the size the snapdragon 800, hence more power efficient than snapdragon
24. hipnotika (Posts: 353; Member since: 06 Mar 2013)
TEGRA 4i is for mobile and tegra 4 is for tablets.
4i is using less power than tegra 4 maybe than snapdragon 800 ;)
23. hipnotika (Posts: 353; Member since: 06 Mar 2013)
which games are supporting open gl 3.0 ? it's an unnecessarry tech for now.
26. jaytai0106 (Posts: 1853; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)
We can keep arguing which CPU is faster, but without a well equipped hardware phone and a well balanced software to sync with the hardware, the CPU will never see its full potential. It's like only care about putting big engine in a car and ignore all other components. You are not going to win all the races
32. Taters (Posts: 5083; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
The Tegra 4 scored higher than an Intel core 2 duo on some tests and that thing needs a fricking fan and vents and a huge battery. Sounds like Nvidia designed strictly for benchmarks and not actual performance, but we shall see when both are released.