Is the GT-i9500 the Samsung Galaxy S IV?
0. phoneArena 25 Dec 2012, 23:08 posted on
The model numbers for Samsung Mobile's next high-end device are the GT-i9500 and the GT-i9505 which could be the Samsung Galaxy S IV and an LTE version of the device respectively; the number "4" is considered bad luck in South Korea which means that the GT-i9500 would be the natural next model after the GT-i9300 which was the Samsung Galaxy S III...
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2. tiara6918 (Posts: 2026; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)
I wonder what Tizen would look like knowing bada wasn't a success
3. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)
5. abdane (Posts: 494; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)
you are kidding right ? the GS3 is still a competition to the nexus 4...
6. jaoowolabi (Posts: 201; Member since: 07 Jun 2012)
Yea and tbh the Nexus 4 is just a hype phone.
10. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)
you guys ride tooooo hard for samsung!
has samsung EVER offered a phone such as the nexus (with top specs) FOR 300 DOLLARS!?
Didnt think so
12. sarb009 (Posts: 307; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
And what is the point of releasing a high end phone for $300 that even doesn't last one day in stock and more than a month never came back in stock. Nexus 4 is only hype. Samsung's phones are expensive but they sell them in reality not just to create hype
21. kanagadeepan (Posts: 916; Member since: 24 Jan 2012)
It is actually LG's fault. Huge sales according to LG is a million handsets in one month. Further their production capacity is NOT as strong as Samsung.
Remember LG has celebrated the sales of 10-Million L-series handsets (mid tier and lower mid phones L7, L9, L3 etc) in few years. But OG Galaxy Note alone has sold more than 10-million in one year and 10-million Note2 was sold out in less than 100 days.
LG don't have the capacity to meet the demand of Nexus4. Further I guess the conversation between LG and Google reg Nexus4 will be as below:-
GOOGLE:- Congrats LG, we have selected you to make a Nexus phone this year.
LG:- Thanks sir. How much I have to make?
GOOGLE:- The product will sell well. So the quantity needed will be huge. It will be way bigger than GalaxyNexus sales.
LG to itself:- WOW, Huge ORDER. We may atleast make TWO THOUSAND phones at launch. Though Google expects our phone will sell more than GalaxyNexus, I don't think so knowing our brand appeal to users. So a TenThousand is enough for one quarter this year.
Google:- LG, start producing as much Nexus4 as you can, since we are going to sell it cheap across all PlayStores around globe.
LG (again to itself) :- Oh Jesus. This is a very very huge order. We need to make FiftyThousand phones this year.
--Later on the day before announcement, Google expects the delivery from LG via SHIPs. But they are getting just 2 mysterious Parcels via FedEx from LG saying "LG Nexus4 for sale on PlayStore-USA, similarly half-Parcels are sent to each PlayStore in other countries"... GOOGLE faints. But SANDY helped them from embarrasment----------
it is now heard that LG is working over night in all its factories to make atleast TwentyFive thousand Nexus4 every month...
22. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4274; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Did you really just bash a phone for selling too much that it can't be produced fast enough? The Nexus 4 has a high demand, it sold out in about 30 minutes on release day. A few subsequent stocks didn't last more than an hour. Now it doesn't last more than a day.
No current Samsung phone stands up to the Nexus 4, in terms of both pure specs and value. The GS4 will change the specs deal, but Nexus 4 will still be the best value, and still have the edge over it in the pure Google experience with near instant updates.
Nexus 4 > GS3 overall
Nexus 4 = GS4 overall in my opinion.
The GS4 might have more software features and better specs, but the Nexus 4 takes it in value and software support. Honestly, I'd rather be the first to have the update than have a few extra features. Now, if only there were Nexus 4 in stock so I could get one, along with the Nexus 10 since I plan on getting them at the same time.
23. PackMan (Posts: 277; Member since: 09 Mar 2012)
Nexus 4 is cheap because it is heavily subsidized by Google in US. Despite of project butter Galaxy SIII running ICS is still better than Vanilla Jelly Bean. SIII seriously outclasses Nexus 4.
Oh, and are you really comparing Nexus 4 with a phone that has yet to be announced ? LOL.
27. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4274; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
What world do you live in? All the reviews I've seen call the Nexus 4 the smoothest Android device yet. Where are you getting your "facts"?
It's a vague comparison. I said the GS4 will have better specs than the Nexus 4 and more software features, which it undoubtedly will. But the Nexus 4 will always have the upper hand in value and software support, just like all Nexus do. It's called making sense.
28. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
S3 > Nexus 4 overall (crippled storage and no USB OTG make the Nexus a half-product imo)
Also, "pure Google " is so overrated.
Samsung JB premium suite > android 4.2
Have you read the GSM arena comparison between the two ?
30. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4274; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
... In your opinion. Not everyone needs more than 16 GB of storage. Everyone I know uses no more than 10.
Like I said, I would rather be the first to have the update than have a few extra features, most of which I would never use, aside from multi-window, which I find useless on anything smaller than a tablet anyways.
I have read it, and most of the "advantages" they pointed out were all subjective; like expandable memory that the average consumer doesn't use, removable battery that I've seen no one take advantage of, and extra software features that I find almost worthless.
Meanwhile, the advantages that I pointed out were ACTUAL advantages. Like the price point, I can buy an unlocked 16 GB Nexus 4 for $350, meanwhile I would have to pay near double that for an unlocked GS3 of the same storage capacity. Though I know it is different for other countries.
Also the software support, the Nexus line gets more official support and more developer support than the GS3 considering it's the standard for Android and every dev jumps on it as soon as it releases.
Then there are my own subjective advantages for the Nexus 4, like the better build quality. The removable back of the GS3 that allows users to get access to the battery creates a weak point, that whenever dropped gets flung off the back and is an inconvenience; also it makes it prone to creaking noises when squeezed, making it feel cheap. Then there's just the terrible look of the glossy plastic.
It's all preference.
33. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
No one you knows uses more than 10gb on their phone??!!
And you call more storage a subjective advantage??
Wow, just Wow.
Again, some objective facts for you:
-One 1080p movie won't fit in Nexus 4
- five games that can take advantage of its GPU won't fit in the Nexus 4
- removable battery means you can take the battery out after the usual life cycle(300-500 charges) and put a new one.
Sealed battery means a decrease in battery performance after the same period.
- if a sealed battery dies, you must send the whole phone to the repair
- S3' battery last much longer than that of the Nexus
- S3' usable screen size is significantly larger than that of the Nexus (around 4.4inch diagonal)
Also, may I ask you what are the practical advantages of stock android 4.2 compared to Samsung's 4.1.2?
43. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4274; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Yes, and that 10 GB is the extreme case for one teenage girl who takes copious amounts of pictures. The real median is about 6-7, for the people I know. And I use no more than 2 GB myself.
It IS a subjective advantage. Not everyone uses that much storage. Saying more memory is an advantage is like saying a bigger screen is an advantage, which is completely untrue because someone else might find it uncomfortable, just like how someone might find a smaller screen too insubstantial. More memory is a subjective advantage in the fact that some people don't use more than 8 or 16 GB, meanwhile those who do are the only ones that appreciate it.
Objective facts, but subjective roots.
- Not all people watch movies on their phone. Everyone I know either has a separate device for movies or just doesn't watch them outside their home.
- Which games? NFS:MW, Shadowgun, GTA III, COD Black Ops Zombies. Those are the only popular graphically intensive games I could find, though I only searched for 2 minutes. What are the odds that someone will want ALL of those games installed, when most people only have casual games like Angry Birds, Temple Run, Cut the Rope, Jetpack Joyride, etc.
- Will admit, you kinda got me there. However, by the end of the usual life of a standard battery, most people will already have, or be looking at a new phone anyways. And the general consumer takes their phone into a retail store when anything is wrong with it, battery or whatever, so while they could be getting a new battery at that store and just swap it out, at the same time someone with a sealed battery can go there and just swap phones. Equal amounts of time.
- Where do you see that? In PA's own comparison between the 2, they say (with the GS3 on 3G and the Nexus 4 on HSPA+) that they both get through a good day. Also with Anandtech's review, the Nexus 4 seems to be on par with the GS3 in terms of battery.
- Less than 10% of the screen is lost, not much. Also, I like software buttons rather than Samsung's solution of 1 hardware key with 2 capacitive, and I would take a less than 10% screen reduction for it.
No bloat to drag the system down, mainly. Just stock vs. any custom UI in general is better, just due to the fact that it runs faster when both have the same hardware. Then there's the subjective advantage that you'll always be up to date with a Nexus, and I'd rather be up to date than have a few extra features that I find useless and slow me down.
It's all relative on the person, for me (and most people I know) memory is not important.
Samsung's software features aren't that important, considering I won't use any of them anyways, and stock 4.2 delivers everything to what I do while being faster at the same time.
There are only 2 things that matter to me mainly when it comes to smartphones; Build quality and software support, and the Nexus 4 is the best at those 2 things while the GS3 lacks in those fields.
48. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Man I can't believe what you're serving me as a reply here.
You don't use more than 2gb on your phone?
Lol, why do you even use your phone for?
I have 48gb storage and no space left.
These are just the top 3D games I have (your examples are clear proof you are clueless when it comes to gaming on android..gta 3 and shadowgun are outdated and cod black ops zombies is a joke in every way, with poor graphics )
- Dark Knight rises -2.2gb
- Modern combat 4 -2gb
- need for spreed MW -2gb
- N.o.v.a. 3 - 1.8gb
- gangstar Rio - 1.9gb
- six guns - 1gb
- Gta vice city - 1.5gb
- Asphalt 7 - 1.7gb
- shadowgun dead zone - 400mb
- dead trigger - 500mb
- dragon slayer - 1gb
..and I have another few gigs of light games on my phone!
It's almost 20 gigs of games alone!
Oh and there's a 3.5gb game on Android, called The Bard's Tale.
As for the battery life, GSM arena test got 51hours for the S3 and 35 for the Nexus.
49. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4274; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
I use my phone for texting, web browsing, Reddit, Facebook, casual games, etc. Also nice to have a decent camera wherever I go.
Like I said, I only searched for 2 minutes, went to the top paid apps in the Play Store and just listed the first ones that popped up, excuse me for not being a connoisseur of mobile games; I like to keep my gaming on PC/console only. Much better quality, more selection, and I don't really have free time to play games whenever I'm out anyways.
20 gigs on games alone? You seem to be more of an extreme mobile gamer, rather than the more average of consumers.
I don't really care for GSMArena's endurance tests. Real world performance is much different, and with average use, the Nexus 4 lasts over a full day.
You're basing all of your arguments on YOUR situation. You aren't putting yourself in the shoes of the AVERAGE consumers. The average consumers don't use over 40 gigs of storage, half of which being games like yourself. And the average consumer probably doesn't spend nearly as much time playing games as you do, so they don't need the "endurance" tests or the ability to swap batteries.
Look, if the GS3 works for you, that's great. It suits your needs of high battery and memory consumption, just as a heavy mobile gamer would. However, don't try and bash me for not needing all of that. Because really, what do I need more than 16 GB of storage for? I just do basic media consumption and social networking, along with a few casual games, which about 70% of the smartphone owners of the world do.
Why are you trying so hard to prove a device is better, when its supposed "advantages" are only relevant to the extremists of the mobile world?
I traded the removable battery of the GS3 for the build quality of the Nexus 4, because the Nexus 4 lasts a full day with normal usage.
I traded the expandable storage and extra software features for better software support, because I don't need more than 16 gigs, and I don't use those extra software features anyways.
I'm just saying, for the AVERAGE consumer, the Nexus 4 is probably the best offer. $350 off contract, good amount of storage, amazing build quality, top of the line specs (minus 1080p display), and always staying up to date with the fast evolving Android ecosystem. Kind of hard to beat, unless you absolutely need expandable storage and removable battery, like yourself.
50. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Actually here's the funny thing.. I play games for about 30-60 minutes a day.
I was never a heavy gamer on any platform, and so I found mobile games to suit my needs the best.
I approach games casually and instead of being forced to sit in front of the desktop I'll rather just lay back, put on the headsets and provide myself some light yet immersive and entertaining enough conformity.
For example, I play six guns for almost a year now, and I haven't even reached the halfway yet :)
The point is.. I find mobile gaming to be the best, most humane measure of gaming and I don't like to feel limited in that regard.. I like being able to just put whichever game I want on my phone.
And that goes to almost all other aspects of phone as a media consumption device.. being able to put as much music and photos I want(about 2gb each ), being able to shoot as many darn full hd videos I want.
Also, I suggest you to try watching a hd movie on the S3 or Note 2.
I keep Avatar hd because it's just damn spectacular looking on S3 and nice to have on a phone.
Top phone screens are by far better in quality comparing to laptops or tablets in the same price range actually!
To sum up my point - you are yet to experience the usage of a true high end phone.
Once you try that, get back to me
51. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4274; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
I feel the same about console/PC gaming. It's nice to come home after a busy day and just sit back in my nice chair with my headset on and just play some COD, Assassin's Creed, Garry's Mod, Natural Selection, etc.
I get having music and photos, I have 8 gigs of music alone on my iPod. I don't have too many photos though, I just take a picture of the occasional special moment.
As for movies, I never really saw the benefit of having movies on my phone when I just go to an actual movie theater, or buy it online and watch it on my desktop when I don't feel like going out. However, I will be getting a Nexus 10 soon (whenever they get back in stock) to store a couple movies whenever I go on vacation to pass the time of the actual driving/flying part (since I don't have a laptop). I just find movies on a less than 7" screen lackluster, that includes the GS3 and Note.
Just because I relax in front of a monitor while gaming instead of a phone display, and keep movies in the theater or on my desktop instead of phone doesn't mean I haven't experienced a high-end phone. I just never saw the benefit of using my phone for everything when I have a much more practical desktop. For being social, snapping a few good pictures, and some casual entertainment, maybe some music (I keep my music on a separate device though), I find the extent of practical use on a smartphone, the only reason I upgrade my phone is to make those things faster. If you find more use out of it, that's nice, but you and I just have different taste in terms of entertainment.
17. iDroid8 (Posts: 155; Member since: 16 Oct 2012)
Thats just a marketing strategy that google thought of just now
Nothing to do with samsung....
19. darkskoliro (Posts: 1076; Member since: 07 May 2012)
its only $300 in US, worldwide there is no subsidy :\
20. darkskoliro (Posts: 1076; Member since: 07 May 2012)
Well okay there is but not in every every country
38. jaoowolabi (Posts: 201; Member since: 07 Jun 2012)
8 GB and no expandable memory? yeaa im good
34. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 1116; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
And so is the GS3. It is just an ugly soap.
39. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 1116; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
Sorry you are confusing my girlfriend with the thing you like to pick up on jail, whenever anyone drops it. ;)
29. omarr (banned) (Posts: 149; Member since: 15 Sep 2012)
the selling point of nexus 4 is its price except this it SUCKS
45. stychill (unregistered)
i think thats being hard on it, for some people its an ideal phone, i need storage space i don't want to stream music from the cloud, thats its only downfall to me, the storage.
9. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
everyone is saying the dna has the best screen in the market and then the one x and lumia 920..the reason why some are being sarcastic or a pri** is because even though the s3 is 6+ month older than the nexus 4 it is still very much up there spec wise,speed wise etc and actually has better camera,sd card slot etc so its more than likely that the s4 is going to be superior to the nexus 4 as its predessor the s3 is still seen by many as the best phone and it still matches or betters most phones so its very unlikely the s4 will be inferior spec or software wise to the s3.
11. Captain_Doug (Posts: 990; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
Not sure who rendered these but they're the best looking Galaxy S4 mock-ups I've seen.http://img841.imageshack.us/im
g841/1898/galaxysivrenderblackI'm hoping this is what it looks like. cop.jpg
13. yajia1 (Posts: 151; Member since: 22 Aug 2012)
Aw. I hope not. I want the speakers not to be on the same side. To have them at the top and buttom sides will be better.
15. AliNSiddiqui (Posts: 382; Member since: 19 Sep 2012)
I would DEFINITELY love that design! Speakers front are amazing... Samsung really doesn't have to be creative to create a great design! Just look at the mock ups...
26. Captain_Doug (Posts: 990; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
Sad but true. So many renders out there look amazing but IMO, the Galaxy S3 and Note 2 are just kinda plain. They have no edges, no curves, no lines. It's literally like a pebble which they nailed a little too well.
25. Igneel (unregistered)
Looks great! And totally loving the design! but knowing Samsung, it'll probably be all plasticky .....
52. Captain_Doug (Posts: 990; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
Can you imagine if they used quality materials? Uh, I might consider buying a Samsung.
35. ncv144 (Posts: 126; Member since: 04 May 2012)
Looks very cool, but i do notice similarity to the LG Optimus G, and the back should have the design from the SII with another material.
44. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 1116; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
Highly unlikely Samsung will drop their beloved physical home button, and they are into pebbles now, not edgy awesome look.
46. Captain_Doug (Posts: 990; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
Edgy awesome look wins every time in my book. Pebbles? They're for skipping.
14. tyger11 (Posts: 133; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
Because they consider 4 unlucky, I wonder if they'll just skip the S IV and go to the S V...
16. chethan316 (Posts: 28; Member since: 07 Nov 2010)
There's a pattern here, not sure if it makes any sense though. The original Galaxy S - I9000, the Galaxy S II - I9100. With the Galaxy S III they jumped two numbers - I9300. So it would only make sense to jump to I9500 or in this case I9600 as the former is already taken by the Tizen dev phone.
18. iDroid8 (Posts: 155; Member since: 16 Oct 2012)
That was just because of the nexus device released in between
24. rustyimtiaz (Posts: 44; Member since: 16 Oct 2012)
then why the hell they will call it Galaxy S 4!!! if 4 is unlucky!! -_- lame !!!
40. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 1116; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
They can adopt a new naming system like Apple did with the iPad.
"Samsung is glad to present to you the new Galaxy S!"
31. Edmund (Posts: 656; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)
I keep telling people, android is all but dead. Even Google knows it, which is why they're working on the Motorola X-Phone (gee how original).
32. iDroid8 (Posts: 155; Member since: 16 Oct 2012)
even the x phone is going to be running android only....
37. stuyjcp (Posts: 31; Member since: 29 Apr 2012)
If 4 is unlucky, then would they still call it Galaxy S IV? Not that it matters, but the logic isn't necessarily good here.
47. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)
Can we please wait till NEXT SPRING for FULL PRESS UPDATES