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Is cheap memory killing off Google Nexus 7 units before their time?

0. phoneArena 18 Jun 2013, 23:05 posted on

The older the Google Nexus 7 tablet gets, the worse it runs according to a number of the tablet's owners who are complaining about things like a terribly long 10 second lag just to orient the tablet correctly; one owner of the tablet complains about problems including lagging in the browser, when multitasking and having the device experience one crash and reboot per hour...

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posted on 18 Jun 2013, 23:10 2

1. Furbal (Posts: 144; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)


Wouldn't suprise me. My tf700 has horrible i/o due to memory issues.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 00:12 2

17. erikiksaz (Posts: 66; Member since: 22 Apr 2010)


FIX FIX FIX

Fix for the Nexus 7. If yours was experiencing the slowdown, one person suggested using an app called Forever Gone (SD card cleaner) in the play store to fix the issue.

Apparently it works well. Just had my gf's dad try it and he noticed the difference.

posted on 18 Jun 2013, 23:11 15

2. PermanentHiatus (Posts: 238; Member since: 22 Jun 2012)


The source is Appleinsider. That says a lot about these claims.

posted on 18 Jun 2013, 23:18 9

5. RaKithAPeiRiZ (Posts: 1228; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)


thats like getting Boeing to test out a Airbus

posted on 18 Jun 2013, 23:40 1

9. Reluctant_Human (Posts: 813; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)


But a legitimate claim. I haven't had this issue myself but know a couple who have the same problem.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 04:02

28. Eonnaydra (Posts: 187; Member since: 23 Oct 2012)


I have the same problem with my Nexus:LAG!

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 05:08

32. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 610; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


Android and Me ran the original article.

posted on 18 Jun 2013, 23:11 7

3. wendygarett (unregistered)


All I can say is 32gb internal storage...

if you are a stubborn guy who still want 16gb and below device, get an iPad :)

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 12:39

38. JunitoNH (Posts: 760; Member since: 15 Feb 2012)


They don't want to spend the money on a real tablet.

posted on 18 Jun 2013, 23:17

4. Zero0 (Posts: 562; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)


The 4.1.2 update (assuming their explanation is correct) is only half of a fix. The supposed cause is a TRIM error, and the update doesn't resolve it retroactively. A full wipe to 4.1.2+ should clear the issue, again, assuming Google and Asus are right.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 17:40

40. icyrock1 (Posts: 267; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)


That might be why I haven't seen any decrease in performance. I got mine when 4.2 was release on the N7, and has a habit I wipe the device before using it (even though I got it from wall-mart and I know it hasn't been used before. It's part of my OCD).

posted on 18 Jun 2013, 23:29 1

6. cornerofthemoon (Posts: 487; Member since: 20 Apr 2010)


I can vouch for this. My Nexus has been running at a snails pace lately.

posted on 18 Jun 2013, 23:35

7. TheLolGuy (Posts: 469; Member since: 05 Mar 2013)


You get what you pay for. The Amazon Kindle with inferior specs are being sold at-cost at $200.

Even with the cheaper parts you're still getting great value for your money. Google is subsidizing the cost and Asus is probably getting razor thin ( and I mean THIN) margins, if anything at all. Just like it was said in a previous article, LG took up the Nexus 4 phone in order to promote it's brand as a quality phone manufacturer... I'm not sure if it worked though. People just call it a Google Nexus.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 20:15

41. Zero0 (Posts: 562; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)


I agree. For $200, the Nexus 7 is still one of the top 7 inch tablets on the market. Even if this is a hardware issue (and there is reason to believe that it is software related), you can't expect much more.

As for the Nexus 4, it's not convincing me to buy an LG phone. I bought it for the software (though the hardware is incredible for the price). I'll definitely buy a Nexus again, but I won't go out of my way for an LG device.

posted on 22 Jun 2013, 17:17

43. JojoGo101 (Posts: 211; Member since: 17 Dec 2012)


LG was great with the Nexus 4. But they should make a greater Nexus 7.I think Google should move away from ASUS or charge a higher cost for higher quality components.

posted on 18 Jun 2013, 23:40

8. amiaq (Posts: 321; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)


Come on!! No wonder my Nexus 7 behaving like that. So I am not the only one. I was so giving up using it due to the lag. Not just that, when I first bought it I recommended the tablet over the iPad Mini to 3-4 other friend/family. Now I wait for them to blame me!! arrghhh!!

posted on 18 Jun 2013, 23:42 3

10. Reluctant_Human (Posts: 813; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)


With the money you saved them they can buy the second generation nexus 7 too and still have spent less than an ipad mini.

posted on 18 Jun 2013, 23:47 6

11. wendygarett (unregistered)


Do you think those users will buy another nexus 7 after have the bad experience?

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 00:21 2

18. Reluctant_Human (Posts: 813; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)


Good point. With most of the people I know it all depends how invested they are in the ecosystem and willingness to give it another try. Although if the same thing happens with the next generation Nexus 7 as well then google pretty much lost a lot of customers for life no matter how much better it is each progressive year.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 01:00

21. amiaq (Posts: 321; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)


Yeah, one of them was Apple loyalists, definitely this will PROVE all his previous arguments.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 01:13 1

23. Reluctant_Human (Posts: 813; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)


Ouch. My condolences because you're never going to hear the end of that.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 12:41

39. JunitoNH (Posts: 760; Member since: 15 Feb 2012)


Stop recommending toys to adults

posted on 18 Jun 2013, 23:48

12. imkyle (Posts: 948; Member since: 18 Nov 2010)


How long after you got your Nexus 7 did it start to lag?

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 01:03 1

22. amiaq (Posts: 321; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)


A good 4-5 months I think, I noticed it after I opened up 2 more accounts for my daughters, when the JB 4.2 update allow multi users. I thought it was the JellyBean update. I was very dissapointed.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 04:46

31. RaKithAPeiRiZ (Posts: 1228; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)


4.2 spoiled it

posted on 18 Jun 2013, 23:57 1

13. VJo003 (Posts: 316; Member since: 11 Mar 2012)


This is like fodder for fanboy fight

posted on 18 Jun 2013, 23:59

14. Leica_Shooter (Posts: 18; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)


I got a 16GB since day one, and it works flawlessly.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 00:03

15. sberk (Posts: 1; Member since: 18 Jun 2013)


Try LagFix Free by Grilled Monkey available on Google Play. Quick, easy and effective. It has kept my N7 from becoming a Frisbee. Be sure to run again if you flash mods or kjernels .

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 00:06

16. marcdunn82 (Posts: 10; Member since: 03 Oct 2012)


And here I thought it was because I had upgraded to the nexus 4 for my phone which would undoubtedly out perform my nexus 7 and make it seem slow. Bit I'm going to look into this.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 00:27

19. flynfree (Posts: 373; Member since: 09 Jun 2013)


What do you expect for the cheap product, i xperience that to my gnexus, sub par speakers, subpar camera, battery sucker, except build quality and software update.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 00:30

20. flynfree (Posts: 373; Member since: 09 Jun 2013)


Same with nexus 4, beauty outside, inferior internal parts.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 01:42

24. Sniggly (Posts: 6496; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Damn. Well, hopefully the new Nexus will have better flash memory for the same price. The question I have is whether Asus and Google would have known about the problems they'd eventually have using the cheaper flash memory. If so they should know better, because others in this thread are right: one bad experience will kill someone's faith in the entire operating system, especially someone who might be an Apple user otherwise. They look for even the slightest excuse to swear off a competitor to Apple. I've seen it happen.

Just about everyone I've seen who's switched to an iPhone from an Android device has done so because their former device had issues of some sort. This is especially true with those who got the cheap ass Android phones from a couple years ago. I mean, how the hell is it fair to judge Android as an OS from the Optimus S?

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 02:18

25. scriptwriter (Posts: 396; Member since: 13 Nov 2012)


just hope my nexus 10 isnt affected by this further down the line......

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 03:06

26. jibraihimi (Posts: 541; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)


Solution for this problem: google should have microsd card slot in next Nexus tablet............

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 10:33

36. RaKithAPeiRiZ (Posts: 1228; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)


but still the apps and system runs off the SSD , so if that fails , it gonna be a paperweight

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 03:23

27. boosook (Posts: 780; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)


all right, so they sold millions of nexus 7 and there are some users that are having problems... and an Apple site starts saying that this is due to low quality memory... proof? how many users have reported the problem? 10 out of 10 millions or 5 millions out of 10 millions? and which is the maker of the chips? are they used elsewhere? and keep in mind that even apple products fail... how many?
What's more, we know that SSD wear out quickly when they are used near their maximum capacity. This holds with EVERY ssd. We also know that SSD performance decreases over time... with EVERY ssd...

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 04:08

29. Veigald (Posts: 224; Member since: 13 Jan 2012)


I'm not surprised at all about this, as I generally have a negative impression of Android performance over time.

However, Apple should not talk too loudly about this. My wife's iPad was completely useless after two years, having been upgraded to death by Apple. It lagged, stuttered and was mostly display checkers when browsing. Horrible experience.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 04:09

30. Eonnaydra (Posts: 187; Member since: 23 Oct 2012)


I have the same problem.It is very laggy sometimes and it's crushing alot of games/apps.
I've had these problems since I bought it,but after 4.2 update it became a nightmare.
I saw a guy who said that only few people complain about it,this is NOT true,every person who I know and bought it have a lot of problems with it, especially with the display and the building quality.
Now I know why Apple priced the iPad Mini at 329$->stability,rich ecosystem,building quality,no lag,great rear camera.
I will never buy another Nexus.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 07:54

33. thunderising (Posts: 225; Member since: 25 Nov 2011)


If the update has been fixed with an Android 4.1.2 update, and the slate is on Android 4.2.2 already, what really is pushing ASUS and Google to speed up the release of the Nexus 7 refresh?

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 08:36

34. idolbds (Posts: 5; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)


I purchased my Nexus 7 towards the end of last year; it's not even a year old yet. But, it's completely dead. I can't get the tablet to turn on; the screen just flickers for about a second. I thought about sending it back because it's under warranty, but honestly as cheap as it was, I don't care too much. I also agree that it's performance definitely deteriorated near the end of it's life. It would take more than 3 or 4 minutes to boot, and sometimes wouldn't even load my apps and would completely freeze. Luckily, I can do all the things it did on my phone and I plan on getting a fully optioned out ultra-book of some kind. It's better for school anyways.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 08:43

35. Tsepz_GP (Posts: 665; Member since: 12 Apr 2012)


It's a damn shame. Nexus devices just seem to be filled with weird issues, glad Google finally chose to make already existing phones Nexus devices.

posted on 19 Jun 2013, 11:30

37. JusMePnut (Posts: 31; Member since: 23 Apr 2012)


Thought it was jus me. Now I see a lot of people with this problem.

posted on 20 Jun 2013, 19:11

42. perrykahai (Posts: 1; Member since: 20 Jun 2013)


I do not have problems with the Nexus 7 but definitely have them with the TF700t. Interestingly, the lag problems on the 700t crop-up only on Android 4.2.2.

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