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Is Verizon carrying a Torch for BlackBerry?

0. phoneArena 29 Apr 2011, 16:56 posted on

A source who works for Verizon sent us pictures of a poster that his retail location has received showing what appears to be a Verizon version of the BlackBerry Torch...

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posted on 29 Apr 2011, 18:58 2

1. Goldeneye (Posts: 360; Member since: 22 Jan 2011)


RIM just doesn't seem to get it why lock devices to to stupid exclusivity deals? Even Apple realized already that there's more potential success if they make their devices available to more than one carrier, look at Samsung and the galaxy phones translated to huge success even with crappy support, plus no manufacturer seems to get any privileged spot from any carrier besides Apple, hate to say it though

posted on 29 Apr 2011, 20:06 5

2. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)


I feel like companies have been doing that to create demand. It's basically telling the customers, "Hey, I'm making a phone for your network and your network ONLY. This is special just for you." They think people are more likely to buy if it's presented this way instead of being a phone anyone can get on any network. But the problem is, folks aren't going to just want a phone that's exclusive anymore because lots of phones are exclusive. MOST phones are exclusive because the carrier requests certain specs out of the phone itself.

Samsung did a fine job releasing the Galaxy S on all networks, but it was still exclusive in some regard. This is the biggest reason I wish all networks used the same technology and phones came preloaded to work on all frequencies. I could just buy the phone I wanted to pick a network instead of going through this exclusive crap...

posted on 29 Apr 2011, 23:53 1

7. Goldeneye (Posts: 360; Member since: 22 Jan 2011)


Well you basically want the European model which I think is good problem is American consumers aren't likely to spend $500 + for a device, that means Americans are more likely to take carriers conditions

posted on 30 Apr 2011, 12:53 2

14. tragichero (Posts: 163; Member since: 07 Jan 2011)


more people can afford that in europe because of income equality. here in the states you no longer have a middle class. youve got a 1% minority of wealthy elite that make over a million a year and the rest of us that just barley can afford to pay bills, feed our kids, and fill our gas tank. this minority makes more than 400 million americans combined.... and they dont pay as high of a tax percentage either. also you got companys like GE, bank of america, exxon mobile, and such that dont pay any taxes but together gross more than 50 billion a year.... they dont pay any taxes.....none.... as a matter of fact our tax dollars go to them in rebates come tax time. does that make any sense? no. its because the tax laws are written by these corporations lawyers.... we need to do something about that first and then maybe we can go into the europian model of phone industry.

posted on 29 Apr 2011, 21:57 1

5. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5954; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


It is not just RIM that is deluding itself about exclusivity.... I imagine Moto is wondering about the wisdom of exclusivity of the Atrix. At one point an argument could be made about the cost of making different editions of the same handset to support the different frequencies, but no more with the multi-mode radio chipsets.

posted on 30 Apr 2011, 00:04 1

8. Goldeneye (Posts: 360; Member since: 22 Jan 2011)


The atrix is a good example, wonder what would've happen if it was released for T mobile as well, would the 4G problems be present as well? but been exclusive, ATT or people would blame the manufacturer for not delivering what the device promised.

posted on 30 Apr 2011, 01:06

9. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)


well the atrix has a lot more problems then just the 4g...

posted on 30 Apr 2011, 01:08

10. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)


i think you are wrong about rim becuase look at the curve it is on all networks, bold is on 3/4 and i think the pearl was on all of them... they were the first to do so before samsung did it

posted on 29 Apr 2011, 22:08 1

6. luis_lopez_351 (Posts: 951; Member since: 18 Nov 2010)


yeah blackberry! but when is a 4G one coming (LTE, HSPA 42 or Wimax either one it dont matter)

posted on 30 Apr 2011, 08:06 1

11. snowgator (Posts: 3293; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)


While gossip is fun, at this point it is almost useless until RIM put itself out there next week with official news and plans. I trust the specs, those have been fairly consistent for a while. But unless some of the Verizon/AT&T employees who post on here have some solid info, Blackberry leaks have been coming for weeks without any real solid when or where information.

Besides, on Phone Arena's "upcoming" tab under Sprint phones, hasn't there been a Torch style slider listed forever? Still not on Sprint. So, still we wait....

posted on 30 Apr 2011, 08:48

12. dandirk (unregistered)


imho... The ONLY 2 reasons for exclusive phones..

1. Technology: It is more expensive to have both radio types

2. The most important... Carriers pay for exclusives, plain and simple. Phone makers would never limit phone sales just to drive demand higher. Cause while it technically may work, it is still hard to translate to sales due to switching provider costs and hassle. The "exclusive" factor does help sales enough unless you hit a iphone marketing grand slam (which would take years to cultivate like apple has).

The carriers are the ones that pay extra for exclusive devices, they must be a good deal for phone makers cause otherwise they wouldn't do it.

If I were to guess, it is a bird in the hand situation... Though phone makers may make more $ offering to various carriers, the exclusive deals it guaranteed money to help with dev.

posted on 30 Apr 2011, 08:59 1

13. anggoromurti (Posts: 1; Member since: 09 Apr 2011)


Still not interested in BB...

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