Is Intel inside the Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 10.1?
0. phoneArena 18 May 2013, 09:22 posted on
Early Saturday morning, before the rooster was up to crow about the day ahead, we told you about the Lenovo IdeaPhone K900 getting to see the light of day in China; we mainly discussed that the phone has "Intel Inside". According to another GL Benchmark test, the GT-P5200 will feature a 1.6Ghz dual-core Intel Atom Z2560 Clover Trail+ paired with an PowerVR SGX 544MP working on the graphics...
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1. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
I take that's the Windows 8 tablet by Samsung
3. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10439; Member since: 14 May 2012)
If you bothered to look at the picture in the article, you would know it clearly says Android 4.2.2.
Next time, read before commenting. Thanks.
6. _Bone_ (Posts: 2154; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
On the other hand you could've taken the weekend off and stopped being an a**hole for 2 days. I'd rather share a room with 10 Daracs over 10 of you.
14. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3616; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
I could say the same for you. Cause Papa pointed out a fact given up there which Darac missed.
What's with you guys? Criticizing even corrections?
44. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3616; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
PA, has some serious problem!
I think a 'red thumb' virus exists...the more reasonable the comments, the more red thumb we get.
45. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
alot of childish people supporting each other who will spam red thumb you with there many accounts..
dont be suprised anymore sadly this it the state of the comments section, most on here use 3-4 accounts supporting themselves and there ''friends''
they see reasonable as hate towards them lol
51. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3616; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
I seriously don't care about the thumbs and i don't give anyone red...unless remotely necessary.
But when a reasonable comment gets more reds and an unreasonable one more greens...i come to the ultimate conclusion of supporters at play.
The idea of thumbing up and down has been excessively misused!
49. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3616; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
See comment #14...as to whom and what i'm replying to.
I don't need to say who i am or am not supporting.
20. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Pal, okay, thanks for the support but..why such reaction?
I mean, his remark was well in place, and in polite manners. I see no problem..irony, right? :p
19. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Ouch, yeah my bad.
Messed it up nicely there x)
The thing is, I was outdoors and used opera with the data compression so indeed, haven't bothered to look at the picture.
But I should've known better still.. Antutu is an Android-only bencmark.
43. noim1 (Posts: 297; Member since: 15 May 2012)
See Intel's Dual Core Power can match up to Snapdragons Quad Core !!..now they just needs to concentrate on power Consumption.If that is fixed then BOOM !! Intel is back in business & will Rule the Mobile Chips ...
2. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10439; Member since: 14 May 2012)
10in. 1280x800 screen. Why Samsung? Why?
5. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 1116; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
It might be because this is meant to be affordable and not high end?
7. temuchka1996 (Posts: 19; Member since: 23 Jan 2013)
they make 1080p phones but not tablets? WTF?
11. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Why you need a tablet with 1080p? I don't get it!
12. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Ask all of the people who dropped coin for a Surface Pro why they did it. Some did it for the i5 CPU. Others did it for the 1080p screen.
BTW, there is a stronger argument for 1080p on a 10 inch tablet than for a 5 inch smartphone. But that hasn't stopped people from wanting a 1080p display on their smartphone.
15. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3616; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
I think FHD screen on a smartphone sounds and looks more attractive than putting it up on a tablet.
32. docj8404 (Posts: 73; Member since: 23 Jan 2013)
Granted your entitled to & I respect any reasonable opinion, but c'mon... Remember when phones went from 800x400 display resolutions to the 1280x720p & how dramatic/noticable of a difference it was? Well, I personally had that same experience when going from my Galaxy Tab 10.1 (170 PPI or so) to a Nexus 10 (300 PPI).
Your right in a sense, 1080p on a phone SOUNDS nice & it's often used a major a selling point, but on 5.3 devices & below, depending on the screen technology, your average consumer couldn't differentiate a huge difference, if at all. Then you should ask yourself if the minor increase in sharpness or clarity is worth the additional battery drain & the extra CPU/GPU power needed to smoothly push those pixels?
My point I'm trying to make is that toe to toe, the difference between a FullHD or FullHD+ display is leaps & bounds over these 720p screens when it comes to tablets. Granted not everyone needs to have the absolute sharpest or highest screen resolution, but in order for this, or any upcoming 10'+ tablets to successfully compete on the high end, higher resolutions are an absolute must IMO.
Just my 2 cents.
39. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3616; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
No qualms right there...but i'm just saying.
I'm one of the guys who think 720p is still enough.
I just said that in a general tone...
16. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
But aren't 720p is already enough for a tablet?
21. SonyFindOneDroidple (Posts: 779; Member since: 11 May 2013)
Not enough.., nexus 10 is still the standard.. i love it ;) i just dont like a tablet without microSD so im waiting for tab 3 plus
22. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Don't you want to be able to view as much info on the tablet as you can? 1080p crams more viewable real estate on a given screen size than 720p.
26. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Hmm.....you're right, 1080p is better. But I don't know why I think that 720p is already enough for a tablet, I don't know why. lol
Anyway, you're right! 1080p is better.
29. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10439; Member since: 14 May 2012)
If given the choice, you'd take 1280x800 over 1920x1080p?
31. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Nah, I will take 1920x1080 over 1280x800! :)
55. thelegend6657 (unregistered)
720p is enough for a tablet , retard of the week .
Check out the iPad 2 with its 768p screen , is it enough ? no
1080p is just nice , not so much pixels that it tax the GPU
For me I would say 1920x1200 is perfect for me , above that it's overkill
56. Kurai (unregistered)
54. XperiaPrince (Posts: 108; Member since: 25 Dec 2012)
1080p would be much more needed in tablets than on phones.Then why would you need a 1080p phone?
30. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 1116; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
Adding to this why don't they make 1080p screens for laptops? Everything up to 1000$ has a crappy screen with lousy viewing angles and low resolution.
8. XXXperia (unregistered)
can't be more worse
9. XXXperia (unregistered)
might get a rugged version too
10. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Why not Baytrail at 2.3Ghz with quadcore.
Even the Exynos5410 A15 scores 28000, and when overclocked to 2.1Ghz Antutu scores would reach 36000+
13. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Maybe the cost is more than Sammy wants to pass along?
17. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
For SS, what is 15$ or 20$ for them? They could just charge an extra 15$ to consumers.
25. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
First rule of Business 101 - you don't price 'at cost'. $15 or $20 in cost gets priced around $50 or $60 to the end consumer. You only pass things along at cost when the market is not buying what you are selling.
40. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
All these downvotes even though its true. Quad core baytrails are the death of arm in the mid end tablet market. They also support hyperthreading so you get better performance on the android OS that wont show up in benckmarks. A dual core atom at 2ghz scores a little less than 28000 (lenovo k900). A quad core 2.3ghz baytrail would be atleast 60000 in antutu.
18. krulll (Posts: 13; Member since: 21 Nov 2012)
HAHAHAHA, Intel reveals that the iPhone could have used their processors and Samsung have decided to run. these Koreans are very complexed.
23. SonyFindOneDroidple (Posts: 779; Member since: 11 May 2013)
Samsung is really playing a bitch game with Apple.. Apple is playing bitch, then samsung will also attack. Haha Oh companies driven by money, Fight!!
38. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
If this tablet has a quad core baytrail samsung wins. People have been lied to, intel mobiles cpus are now as efficient as arm while stomping them. A dual core intel is as powerful as a quad core a15.
24. mikes_phone_and_tab (Posts: 4; Member since: 11 Apr 2013)
The perfect tablet in my opinion is a Transformer Infinity with more RAM, front facing speakers and Note-like stylus capabilities. However, I'll be happy when I can get just a little more RAM.
27. docj8404 (Posts: 73; Member since: 23 Jan 2013)
Samsung & "affordable" aren't meshing incredibly well these days, unless your either buying a subsidized device or a low/entry level device. As a proud Nexus 10 owner, having almost 300ppi makes a massive difference than sporting around 189ppi, as would most 1200x800 10.1 tablets. I don't see as much of a need for 1080p smart phones as I do tablets. The bigger the display & lower the resolution, pixelation, jagged edges & blurriness becomes significantly more noticeable.
I understand many may be "content" with these lower resolutions because they're still technically classified as "HD", but I also think a lot of people who find a 720p screen on a 10.1 inch display on a tablet at this point in the game acceptable haven't really seen and spent extensive time with something like a Nexus 10, iPad 4th gen or Xperia Tablet Z.
The GT 3 8.0 should be geared a bit more toward consumer price friendly buyers & the 10.1 variation, which will certainly run $399 - $499 for a 16GB WiFi model, should be able to compete specification & design wise with some of the above mentioned devices, in addition to the tablets expected to land the second half of the year.
With the exception of the front facing speakers, the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 was a poor "upgrade" from his predecessor, with virtually the same specs, just a newer OS & different outwardly design. We can only hope Samsung gets things right this go around in the Galaxy Tab world & make a device worthy of its asking price & an upgrade.
33. docj8404 (Posts: 73; Member since: 23 Jan 2013)
Think about it, almost 7 months ago Samsung released the Nexus 10 with a next gen A-15 processor, a FullHD+ display @ $399.99. Fast forward 8-9 months.. Now if the SAME OEM releases a new tab, @ the same price point or possibly more, lacking in 2 of the most important areas listed above, how could that be progression? :/ . Granted I'm sure the new GT lines will be flooded with a lot of "features", some gimmicky, some possibly useful, in addition to a micro SD slot, but is that worth the trade off of getting a sluggish processor & substandard display? I think not, but I suppose that's for every consumer to decide....
34. docj8404 (Posts: 73; Member since: 23 Jan 2013)
Well I've already seen hate run rampant on some of P.A. comment sections, but I have found something that isn't so widespread: logic & rationale.
35. sss_ddk (Posts: 73; Member since: 05 Mar 2013)
Can someone tell me if it is normal to have both an intel CPU and armeabi-v7 ? does this mean arm instruction emulation?
37. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
There is an x86 version of android created by google and intel.
41. sss_ddk (Posts: 73; Member since: 05 Mar 2013)
Thank you for your answer but that wasn't my question. My question is why is there an arm eabi for an intel CPU.
42. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
Thats just a build term most likely. Like ubuntu builds have AMD in the name but its not related to amd processors.
36. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
Intel is starting its attack on arm. There per core performance is more than 2x arm a15 even in their atom cpus.
46. DKMDROID (Posts: 103; Member since: 09 Aug 2011)
This is a bold move especially by Samsung because they make their own chips and i dont see why they shouldnt just pop one of their chips in or a Snapdragon 600.... i was reading that android is ready to make the transition into laptops with KLP so im wondering if the reason why they put a x86 chip in their upcoming tablet is to prepare for the transition to KLP???? ...... just a wild suggestion
53. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
Because Intel processors destroy arm in performance and the battery life is on par with a15. They just cost more.
57. DKMDROID (Posts: 103; Member since: 09 Aug 2011)
which weill just add to the cost of the device which consumers would have to shell out for i was also thinking if this is true they could also twin it with a Windows 8 version of the tab without changing much .....
58. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
But Arms A57 is better than intels Baytrails.....?