Is HTC working on a 5-inch flagship smartphone?
0. phoneArena 06 Aug 2012, 05:46 posted on
According to industry sources, a 5-inch HTC flagship handset is being prepared for a launch later this year, supposedly in September or October...
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10. MeoCao (unregistered)
b-c the software keys' placement is fixed I think it's 7" tablet like N7.
8. shadowcell (Posts: 300; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)
While the pixel density would definitely play a significant role here, about 419ppi, I don't think we have any need of a resolution for that magnitude nor the developers have taken interest in the HD resolution for their apps.
For example, Netflix still doesn't offer HD streaming on their Android smartphones. Kind of a turn-off when I'm doing HDMI mirroring.
9. sonisoe (Posts: 323; Member since: 06 May 2009)
used to have an htc hero & desire hd...not a fan anymore 'coz battery life is usually horrible, probably 'coz the skin is too heavy....
12. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3940; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Devices that were released nearly 2 years ago aren't really good sources on how HTC's devices are today. Processors are more power efficient now, and batteries are larger.
71. gwuhua1984 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)
My Desire HD battery last pretty well, at least 24 hours. With my One X, I could go beyond that, perhaps even 3 days with minimal use, but then of course, I'm running custom ROMs and kernels.
78. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)
People who say this obviously have no idea what they're talking about.
20. Jeradiah3 (Posts: 979; Member since: 11 Feb 2010)
Even if HTC has a 5in phone debut tomorrow.................Samsung would still have most of the 5in smartphone market. I think that its too little, too late because Samsung has a 6-8 month head start on HTC. HTC also has battery issues which has been a problem for years now. The Note and Note II can remain to dominate the NEW 5in+ Smartphone market
31. lyndon420 (Posts: 1712; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
No...a variety is better thx, unless you belong to the iCamp.
34. Jeradiah3 (Posts: 979; Member since: 11 Feb 2010)
im not saying that HTC wont compete.............but they should've started months ago
BTW, I cant stand Apple and their "trying to sue everyone to prevent them from making money" techniques. The only thing Apple does well is marketing. their products add one good thing every 3-5 years while android advnaces their products every 6 months to meet demand
73. gwuhua1984 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)
I agree that HTC will be at a disadvantage. If they do things right, they will be able to compete, but the thing is... they don't exactly do the right things.
They trying to go the Apple and Samsung route, taking away what people likes about them originally (for example, no SD card storage or removable battery). Not to mention the bad quality control that made them the most spit attracted brand domestically in their own country. The One series is good, but really hurt their image this time worldwide. I'm hoping that their next product will be as perfect as can be, instead of filled with bugs.
84. Jeradiah3 (Posts: 979; Member since: 11 Feb 2010)
Right. I have the Inspire and even with the Sense 3.0 upgrade, that phone is no good. Then I hear about battery and HTC Sense issues with other HTC phones and I realized that HTC has started to make faulty devices. Not all of them are bad, but its not helping their overall market share.
48. 305Bucko (Posts: 506; Member since: 07 Aug 2011)
HTC has had problems with battery because they have used Snapdragons in the past. The Exynos is much more efficient. I hope HTC did not choose to go with Qualcom again just because of their relationship. I hope this chip is the real deal.
HTC can easily compete with Samsung just because they choose to use Aluminum and make a better quality chassis. HTC does pride themeselves when it comes to craftsmanship. The feel is very important especially on a 5" device
51. ahhxd717 (Posts: 317; Member since: 08 Dec 2011)
I'm pretty sure the Snapdragon S4 handles power consumption well, much better than the S3 at least, so battery shouldn't be too much of an issue in comparison to Exynos.
53. 305Bucko (Posts: 506; Member since: 07 Aug 2011)
I sure hope your right ahhxd717. I want HTC to stay in the game here. They are a good company.
55. jinwons (Posts: 93; Member since: 24 Nov 2010)
HTC's battery issues are mostly due to the fact they normally put too small battery in phones and Sense memory management is poor. Other phones using snapdragon did much better on battery life.
But they are getting better with Sense recently and S4 krait is helping to lower power consumption too. they just need to put a little larger battery than they used to do.
61. Techvue (Posts: 10; Member since: 25 Jul 2012)
My HTC phone(EVO3D) just installed in the new Sense (yesterday), along with ICS. So far today, the phone's battery life is noticeably improved. Not sure if it is ICS v4.03 or Sense v3.6, or both.
79. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)
You must be kidding yourself right now because Exynos with LTE would destroy battery life, the only way to have acceptable battery draw from the SoC is to use Qualcomm solutions.
81. 305Bucko (Posts: 506; Member since: 07 Aug 2011)
You are absolutely correct about your LTE statement. Qualcomm does seem to be the only one to be providing a good solution to LTE.
However, I did not read anything claiming it would have LTE connectivity.
If you notice, the international version of the GS3 has an Exynos, while the US versions went with S3 (concurring with your statement). When LTE is not needed, the Exynos is clearly the chip of choice.
82. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)
If this is meant to go to Verizon, it will have LTE or it will flop hard.
85. ObjectivismFTW (Posts: 211; Member since: 03 Jul 2012)
Remember, though, another reason why the One X doesn't match the GS3 in battery life is the S-LCD2 screen compared to the more efficient OLED display.
86. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)
You'd be pretty wrong about that because Anandtech disagrees with your conclusion. The HTC One XL with Snapdragon S4 has the battery life of the iPhone 4s for Web browsing, something that the GS3 with Snapdragon S4 can't match. In this case, it's pretty obvious that AMOLED is the primary reason why the GS3 is falling behind in battery runtime. Seeing as how the international One X has a Tegra 3 instead, it's pretty obvious that the reason why the GS3 has better battery life is because the international version has a more power efficient SoC, and that they just put a far bigger battery than HTC managed to put.
87. 305Bucko (Posts: 506; Member since: 07 Aug 2011)
Hunt3rj2: "it's pretty obvious that the reason why the GS3 has better battery life is because the international version has a more power efficient SoC"
You just contradicted your previous statement where you said : "You must be kidding yourself... the only way to have acceptable battery draw from the SoC is to use Qualcomm solutions."
The international version of the GS3 has an Exynos which benchmarks better AND has better battery life.
Please explain because I am confused.
89. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)
Wasn't a contradiction. The statement that acceptable battery draw needs Qualcomm SoCs only applies to LTE equipped devices.
So the question here is, if the One XL is just the One X with Snapdragon S4, then why is it that the Galaxy S3 international gets better battery life than the One X T3/International, when the reverse is true for the US LTE versions?
88. ObjectivismFTW (Posts: 211; Member since: 03 Jul 2012)
Ahh you know what, let me re-write this comment becuase I realized that the One XL uses the same battery but that still doesn't render your "AMOLED is holding it back arguement" true for a few reasons.
1. The One XL was suppose to be the international LTE version as I have just now realized, you have to remember, the 4G LTE radio used for the One XL was highly optimized for the S4 processor, and possibly more than the GS3, considering that HTC would've had more time to uncover the nits and bits of the S4 processor, and optimization highly affects battery life, especially when you are talking about hardware features like LTE Radios. Basically, the One XL was HTCs second go at making a Dual-Core LTE phone, and they had learned from the One X, so it would be understandable as to why the One X would have comparable battery life.
2. The AMOLED vs SLCD-2 argument doesn't follow a logical path on your part. The reason the SLCD consumes more power than AMOLED is because AMOLED doesn't require a back-light, so it would be an impossible arguement. I can go further in depth with that but you understand?
90. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)
1. It is the international LTE version, and the GS3 in the US uses the same chipset and probably very similar radio components (besides WiFi and GPS), so the One XL and Galaxy S3 LTE shouldn't have similar battery life, seeing as how the One XL has less battery and a supposedly battery-sucking screen.
2. AMOLED is self-lit, but if all pixels are lit, it consumes vastly more power than a single backlight of an LCD. In web browsing scenarios, AMOLED uses a lot more power than S-LCD2 due to having so many pixels constantly lit up and using power. AMOLED can only use less power if the picture being displayed is dark enough.
91. ObjectivismFTW (Posts: 211; Member since: 03 Jul 2012)
1. You didn't post the Anandtech review, I actually looked it up and didn't see any =/. I only saw one for the One X. And the other reviews I have seen so far say that the One XL's battery is virtually identical to the One X, or a little bit worse.
Of course, LTE usage is much more heavy over here than internationally, so if you are talking about life with LTE enabled, you will see lower battery here. As far as materials, I will have to look that up, but it is commonly understood that the first iteration of next-gen smartphones usually have compatibility issues that result in undesired effects (iPhone 4 death grip, Galaxy Nexus battery life, One X radios). A change in materials usually remedy these issues, and so that is why I mentioned that in the first place pertaining to the LTE radio used.
2. Of course yes, but Samsung realized this, and darkened out most of the TouchWiz UI to ensure that the best possible efficiency is achieved. Same with Moto and the DRazr.
92. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)
The Anandtech review:http://www.anandtech.com/show/
That's the One XL with 16 GB of internal storage. AT&T also decided to rebrand it to the One X even though it is compatible with none of the One X accessories.
It's not about LTE usage, it's about general use battery life. The GS3 LTE just isn't as good as the One XL for battery life even though it has a higher voltage chemistry and 300 more mAh.
2. True, but the web browser remains an issue, and the insanely bright icons everywhere remains a pretty significant battery drain.
24. sdouglas3673 (Posts: 3; Member since: 06 Aug 2012)
I would love to see HTC put out a 5" Even with the Thunderbolt debacle... I think they have the best usability experience and they seem to listen to their customers... Sign me up!
30. lyndon420 (Posts: 1712; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
It's nice to have a variety of OEM'S to choose from. This area of the market used to belong to Dell with the Streak. I got the Streak when it came out because I figured that it would be awhile before htc (my OEM of choice) would enter that space and bring out a 5" beast. The Streak was too big though for one handed operation. Now that I have my One X, maybe a 4.7" screen will do after all.
67. rockstarlive (Posts: 307; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
It's probably.... the HTC Incredible XL. I am just guessing on the name.
74. Fuego84 (Posts: 263; Member since: 13 May 2012)
I hope this monster phone packs monster battery life and also hope it's removable.
80. Gaurav008 (Posts: 274; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)
wishing aremovable card battery...a memory card slot...and with such good hardwares...we can imagine the competitor for samsung.