Is Google now blocking mobile YouTube from Windows Phone?
0. phoneArena 12 Jan 2013, 13:05 posted on
Last week, we showed you how Google was redirecting maps.google.com to the main Google mobile search page and after a few excuses by the guys at Mountain View, Google Maps was once again functional for Windows Phone 8; now the problem seems to be with YouTube as attemptsd to load a video from the mobile YouTube web site are met with a request to load a non-existent app...
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81. Klevis (Posts: 5; Member since: 29 Dec 2012)
Discrimination in the marketplace. It is indeed illegal. It means that if you are selling aa product (or giving it for free), you should make it available for everyone.
89. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Could you provide a citation to a law or regulation that backs up your assertion? Just because you make a statement, doesn't make it true.
75. 8logic (Posts: 148; Member since: 05 Mar 2012)
stupidest thing i read here LMFAO i hope it was a joke........
96. eisenbricher (Posts: 973; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)
Get your terms right. You're talking as if Google has produced all vids on YT. Dude, Google has nothing to do for making it work on WP. They just need not to block it. Everything was going fine until google realized something and started actively blocking their services for WP users.
Repeating again, stop being a fanboy and open your eyes. Android is cool, versatile. I also use it but that doesn't mean to worship it. WP is also super cool and buttery smooth. I am just waiting for it to get some basics covered. Then I'm jumping on WP.
42. VZWuser76 (Posts: 3919; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
That happens everywhere. There are plenty of services that are available for free but only if you use their hardware. Software or service doesn't matter. Gmail, Maps, YouTube, google+, etc. are owned by Google, it should be at their discretion who they offer their services to, same as with Microsoft, Apple, or anyone else. They created it, maintain it, and upgrade it for no cost, it should be their decision. Otherwise it's unfair considering that there is no iTunes or Xbox service for anyone on android. Could there be? Certainly, but there isn't. Why, because they have a closed ecosystem. Google is open, to a point. But to be angry that a competiting platform doesn't offer their services to you for free when your platform of choice does the same, that's a little hypocritical isn't it?
45. windroid (unregistered)
"maintain it, and upgrade it for no cost"?!? do you see any advertising in youtube? if you do then it's not at "no cost".
If any service is blocked on purpose, discriminating any operating system is a crime in most (if not all) of European countries.
66. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Please provide a link to a governmental website were a service is defined as software that is accessible over the Internets and then another link to a governmental website (same government, please; no cherry picking) where there is a prohibition against discrimination in provision of the same (Internet software) service.
117. ichiranjeeb (Posts: 15; Member since: 12 Jan 2013)
so U guys think a website is a software... Amazing.
U don't know the difference between a SERVICE & a Software ..!!!
Let me clarify once again.
Youtube is a Video Hosting Service (If u don't know search wikipedia). All the videos are there because of people. It's not like HULU, NETFIX & Xbox Video becz unlike Youtube these companies own the content.
I put some videos on youtube & I want to watch them via any compatible browser. what's wrong in it. !!!
and FOY I m not crying for an Youtube app. I hv metrotube for that. but the thing is it's not a right thing to do.
I own both WP (Lumia 800) & Android (SII-Cyanogen)but that doesn't mean I m a fanboy. google should not getaway with these kind of evil practices.
125. Atrixboyyy (Posts: 326; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)
Your browser wasn't compatible obviously lol and like vzwuser said Google owns it and can do exactly whatever it feels necessary with said service or software just like when I but my galaxy s3 its up to me not to let att control if I root my phone or not . If its yours you control it.
68. MeoCao (unregistered)
You still avoid talking about iTunes or Xbox, Is it illegal not to offer them to Android?
71. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
You are ruining windy's argument. He wants the Sun to set in the East and Rise in the West.
97. eisenbricher (Posts: 973; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)
The main debate is related to website access, don't you think? If we were talking regarding Google not developing official YT app for WP, then your suggestion can be considered.
See? iTunes/XBOX is outta question here. That evil has already covered by Google by not making any app for WP. As I say, google is no more sane. It's turning into a monster like Apple and MS.
130. MeoCao (unregistered)
Do you think Android developers can access iTunes or Xbox?
GG is the most open tech company. contrary to walled gardens of Apple and MS
119. ichiranjeeb (Posts: 15; Member since: 12 Jan 2013)
Microsoft offers SmartGlass for Android. and we all know abt apple.
73. VZWuser76 (Posts: 3919; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
Yes there is advertising, I never said there wasn't. But, for any of Google's services, have you ever paid money for them to google. Advertising is the reason why they're free. But the bottom line is you are not out any money using their services. That is, by definition, free.
84. dmakun (Posts: 319; Member since: 06 Jun 2011)
I've always wanted nokia's maps to be available on android even as a paid app but yet it's exclusive to nokia & wp. Why isn't anyone crying for this reason? Is the problem here because Google's apps/Internet sites are free that everyone feel it's obligated to provide their software to every OS & especially an obnoxious competitor as Microsoft? IMO if Google makes its money from ads & yet choose to ignore Microsoft's platform & loss money then let's all respect that.
120. ichiranjeeb (Posts: 15; Member since: 12 Jan 2013)
Dude, All the videos of Youtube are not Google's IP, People own that content. so they should hv the privilege to access those videos anytime, anywhere & through any device they want.
Microsoft & Apple own the content of Xbox Music & itunes. but google doesn't own the videos of Youtube.
121. wassup (Posts: 565; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)
no they don't you d**kwad, the artists do, same like google and youtube.
74. 8logic (Posts: 148; Member since: 05 Mar 2012)
so what if its a service?????
who said you deserve FREE services?
when did it became a right?
4. nwright94 (unregistered)
M.youtube.com works pretty well, I still even use it on my iPhone when the app is being inconsistent. Add the shortcut to your start screen and you're set.
19. OHaZZaR (Posts: 131; Member since: 19 Aug 2011)
LOL xD All joking aside, why mock him for stating the obvious? Is it because he payed the a-word for a certain phone?
30. bbblader (Posts: 588; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
it wasnt about the iPhone... kind of
I mean the article says that m.youtube.com doesnt work for wp and he says that it works for him pretty well...On his iPhone with iOS not WP ;)
32. nwright94 (unregistered)
It's working on my dads limits 920 right now
33. nwright94 (unregistered)
86. OHaZZaR (Posts: 131; Member since: 19 Aug 2011)
Good point. My bad I just get angry when someone gets a heap of dislikes for buying the iPhone.
34. nwright94 (unregistered)
Just like I said the other day, you guys have no regards for others opinions, you insult those who don't use android.
36. Atrixboyyy (Posts: 326; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)
Who attacked him ? Paint me this picture your looking at.
52. nwright94 (unregistered)
I'm talking about because I mentioned I owned an iPhone in my original comment and they're already jumping down my throat insulting my intelligence because of the phone I personally choose to use.
100. bbblader (Posts: 588; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
I dont f**king care if you used ANY kind of phone!
It can be a Moto,LG,SS,Apple,Nokia(non-windows phone based),Sony,etc....
it was about the fact that it wasnt a windows phone because the article said that youtube on WINDOWS PHONE doesnt work and you said that youtube on your iphone works fine.I seriously dont care if it was an Android or iOS or Bada or Symbian or Blackberry
If its a stupid sentence I'll say its a stupid sentence that isnt related to the article whatsoever
108. Atrixboyyy (Posts: 326; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)
Thank you. I don't know how he figured any body was jumping down his throat
5. aphrophyre (Posts: 24; Member since: 02 Feb 2012)
This is working perfectly fine on my HTC Trophy with WP7.5.
54. AhmadoGozalela (Posts: 3; Member since: 11 Jan 2013)
What's wrong with BING MAP and Nokia MAP??
Why WP user want Google MAP??
Is Google Map is WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY better than BONG MAP and NOKIA MAP?
69. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Now why are you and toon at post #6 above going and ruining a perfectly good debate? With your comments, the anti-Google whiners are having to confront the fact that there may be a reason why Google isn't supporting WP other than that it doesn't want to play nicely with MS. Sheesh.
9. thunderbolt (Posts: 76; Member since: 10 Jan 2013)
M$ did something simialr to opera so now getting taste of their own medicine.
11. Allen3697 (Posts: 86; Member since: 26 Mar 2012)
I think Google is being really immature about this. They shouldn't be trying to block devices from accessing their products simply because they're not Android. Can't wait for them to get rid of Gmail access on Windows and Apple tablets and laptops.
13. carlosechev07 (Posts: 39; Member since: 16 Oct 2012)
That is not true, google is not blocking any platform to use services, just look all the services that works great on iOS on webMobile and native applictions.
The problem is that IE mobile is not fully HTML5 compatible and a lot of features can run on IE, that situacion force developers to create exclusives versions for IE..
15. wp7tribes (Posts: 52; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)
BS they aren't allowing MS to create a prefect youtube player and they aren't allowing developers to provide first class 3rd party youtube app
they can block redirect stop support windows phone as much as they can but this wouldn't change the fact i will never replace my windows phone with any android smartphone
17. carlosechev07 (Posts: 39; Member since: 16 Oct 2012)
Take a look to this link, it's a comparition on features and API's that Chrome Mobile, iOS and IE mobile supports. Chrome and iOS have 390 and 385 points, and IE mobile have just 320 points.
Microsoft need to improve IE mobile experience to be more competitive, it's very bad for MS that do not explain the real reason because many web apps does not run on IE mobile.
In my opinnion is a very bad move for MS declarations..
64. joey_sfb (Posts: 5432; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
Microsoft will never support open standard such as html 5. They have only pay lips service about their support. Over the past 8 years, their IE still get one of the lowest HTML5 rating.
I don't blame M$ for it as i understand its not in their advantage to support open standard as it reduce licensing fee and control over their competitors. Plus, in the past windows PCs dominate.
I for one is happy those days are over. i support open standard as it accelelate IT Technology progress.
82. Klevis (Posts: 5; Member since: 29 Dec 2012)
Youtube works on the desktop W8. W8 and WP8 have the same browser which means that it is not the fault of the browser.
22. djay_434 (Posts: 7; Member since: 17 Dec 2012)
I'm not really sure if this is country specific or not!
I tried the mobile site as well as the desktop site of YouTube on my Lumia 800 (7.5 mango) in India and the videos played just fine
Guys @phonearena please ask around if other countries are facing a similar issue.
24. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
hah in my country goverment has blocked Youtube on all devices Pc to moblie doesnt effect here :D
29. TheCynicalTechie (Posts: 78; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
I don't understand why you have a happy face at the end of that terrible confession. Must be the worse place to live on the planet, I suggest you move.
91. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
yes i guess but sometimes we smile for being surviving the worst place in the world but this is not the worst nor the best
and i was :D:D:D because the blockage led me to alternate solutions like VPN and i would not have knowledge about how it works if we were simply alowed to use youtube.
26. jdep1 (banned) (Posts: 26; Member since: 06 Nov 2012)
m.youtube.com working fine here. Unlocked Samsung focus S windows phone 7.5 Os version 7.10.8773.98 USA t-mobile. Maybe its a region issue or something else but I don't see why there is an article about it without actual facts.
35. jibraihimi (Posts: 755; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)
Finally google is looking to change it's tag line 'do no evil' to 'do only evil'................ This is just getting out of hand, because it's user who are suffering due to this......... Microsoft can do the same to all the services of google by blocking it from their OS ecosystem...... I'm not a fan of Microsoft or apple, or I don't hate google, in fact I'm
Myself using Note 2, but this approach of google is wrong, trying to kill WP, because it can be a potential threat to Android in future........... Now maybe some of you will say that, if this is the case then why google is supporting ios...??? It's because iPhone is not a threat to google, because it only caters to highend customer, whereas Android's majority of user base are from low to mid end segment, and WP OEM's are churning out many devices in low to mid end segment, which could be bad for android, as the low end WP devices are having very smooth UI, whereas all the low end droids lag like anything........... Hope google will stop doing the same things, which Microsoft used to do, sand which apple is doing now, as it will piss off lots of people, and they will begun to hate Google in same way, they are hating Microsoft or apple...........
48. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
I don't know, maybe Google would be nicer to MS if MS weren't running s**t like www.scroogled.com.
Or trying to counter Google Apps for businesses via underhanded means.
Or whining through fairsearch.org
Just a thought...
107. vangeodee (Posts: 10; Member since: 13 Jan 2013)
are you retarded? Google is pressuring Microsoft to improve their ecosystem. Being closed and locked out from the rest sucks! Google pushes for Openness in mobile ecosystems and besides, with all the s**t Microsoft has been bringing to the table, they DESERVE to be blocked.
37. blingblingthing (Posts: 523; Member since: 23 Oct 2012)
May I ask which of Microsoft's services does Microsoft have an app for on android?
Microsoft as far as I know they have little support for other platforms so now the tables turn let then solve their own issues.
44. atrain1385 (Posts: 10; Member since: 02 Jun 2011)
this is exactly why service providers can not and should not be content providers unless heavily regulated example: Comcast bought NBC had to jump through hoops to get the deal done to make sure that NBC content was still accessible to everyone now Google seeing a threat plays the under card and the consumer pays the price
46. ucancallmenickk (unregistered)
49. TheCynicalTechie (Posts: 78; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
I don't know how true this is because people here are reporting no problems, but peoples reaction to this are a disgrace. The way they justify this is just disgusting. They tout software freedom to any ear they can her, yet if Google were to do something like this (again, I don't know if it is true) they accept it with no problem. I would ask you to be ashamed of yourselves, but you fools obviously have no shame. Hypocrites rarely do.
55. TheCynicalTechie (Posts: 78; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
"They tout software freedom to any ear they can her" That is be *see and not "her." I don't know what was wrong with me when I wrote that.
50. big.e927 (Posts: 94; Member since: 21 Nov 2012)
Wp users, just make a live tile for this discussion and cry me a river. Microsoft has accused Google of anti-trust for years, now they're getting a dose of that BS lodged down their throats. Bob appetit Microsoft.