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Is Apple's war against Google hurting iOS?

0. phoneArena 08 Aug 2012, 09:55 posted on

One of the first quotes from the biography of Steve Jobs to really catch fire was when he allegedly said that he would wage "thermonuclear war" on Google because of he perceived Android to be a copy of Apple's iOS...

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posted on 08 Aug 2012, 10:00 32

1. wendygarett (unregistered)


once again nice article Michael... The war always motivate android too to get rid of being ios wannabe ...

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 10:22 26

10. bobfreking55 (Posts: 866; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)


ICS and the Holo UI was a big leap!
agree, nice article!

Apple is really some sort of ''combiner'' in the industry. they take the best and assemble them into their own product.

Screens from LG/Sharp, Processors from Samsung, GPU's from PowerVr, Camera from Sony and all... Google really played a role in iOS functionality.

i think Apple shouldn't have become this dependent. that fact stops them from being innovative and by the time all companies draw their services away, Apple will lose it's feet and crumble down to ashes. --- in which I hope they do so considering their attitude lately.

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 11:09 6

30. Smartest-Man (Posts: 3; Member since: 03 Jul 2012)


It's off subject, but I just wanted to say, Wendy Garrett is fine. I agree great article.

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 18:46 1

107. lyndon420 (Posts: 4559; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


You're right. She is very easy on the eyes.

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 22:25 1

124. doublehammer (Posts: 75; Member since: 07 Aug 2012)


The chick in the pic is definitely a hotty.

However, this being the internet and all, I would say "wendy" is the dude on the left. lol.

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 05:30

141. Astro551 (Posts: 46; Member since: 18 Dec 2011)


gotta love google image search. the actor's name is Elly Tran :P (it's a picture of her with another movie actor)

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 11:42 1

42. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


Copying the market leader seems like the safe marketing decision and will
invariably get u a piece of the market, but there is no way to win by being the copycat. Answer for Android: keep the clone version and work at keeping pace with Apple, while you engage in serious design effort to create something new from the ground up. This will give you continuous money flow and market presence while prepairing for the day you can leap into the front. If your redesign fails, you atleast maintained your current position which should eventually slows down there innovations in this market.

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 10:04 4

4. thebest (Posts: 231; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)


you can still get all the google apps and services from the app store so i don't want apple to add a default youtube app, i am happy with its removal

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 10:33 14

16. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2705; Member since: 26 May 2011)


You'll be happy with every YouTube link directing you to the mobile website rather than the app?

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 10:50 10

21. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


At this point Michael, it seems that is what most iOS users would prefer.

This is of course due to the fact that the YouTube app for iOS was HORRIBLE and at this point the mobile site is actually better.

If iOS users had any idea how nice the Android YouTube app is they would not want to be redirected to the mobile site. I think Apple is gambling heavily on the idea that iOS users never look outside the iOS walls so they have no idea what they are missing.

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 11:13 2

31. thebest (Posts: 231; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)


i also use the galaxy nexus which is updates to jb.....i just don't like youtube default apps, i think its better to download those from the app store or the play store so that we can update, change and delete the app whenever we want....i use the apple products because they have better apps in the app store and i got a nexus because i feel that sticking to a single os makes life boring

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 10:59 5

25. Savage (unregistered)


There is an alternative for that. Apple needs to be able to set defaults. If I click on a Youtube link, it should give me the option to set the Youtube app as default. What prevents this from happening is iOS and its limitations which need to be overcome.

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 11:17 2

34. thebest (Posts: 231; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)


you always have an option to jailbreak your phone, you can restore it whenever you want....apple wants to keep things as simple as possible so is u want android like ui, multitasking and more then you gotta jailbreak......the jailbroken ipad is really cool, you can run all android apps on it as well, u can get side by side multitasking and much more

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 11:06 1

28. thebest (Posts: 231; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)


no, i will be happy with every youtube link directing me to google's new youtube app from the app store, the current youtube app is boring, the new youtube app will have some extra cool stuff

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 11:16 3

33. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


Michael's point is that due to current iOS limitations it will not be possible for a YouTube link to direct you to the app unless the app is an iOS app, which will no longer be the case.

Unless you are referring to your Galaxy Nexus in which case i'll shut up now.

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 11:52 2

47. thebest (Posts: 231; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)


maybe apple will allow users to integrate it to the OS just like facebook, twitter and ibooks apps, the current ios limitations are for the ios5 and it will have the default youtube app forever.....i use both android and ios devices and i won't sell either of those, unlike most of the others who buy one of the two and criticize the other ........and i prefer the ios only because both google and apple are working for it.....even if apple removes default google apps, i will get them from the app store....as far as android is concerned, i think that is people feel that iphone is too expensive then they can get a galaxy nexus which is pretty cool for its price.....people say that other android phones have better specs but i never noticed the advantage of higher specs, my iphone always outperformed my friend's galaxy s3 in performance, apps and games but yes,the screen is small, i think a 4 inch screen would be the best,s3 is just too big...... the galaxy nexus gets updated even before the galaxy s3 and it runs apps as good as my friend's s3 even though its $300 cheaper.....i think that those who want to get a new phone should choose the iphone 5 or the galaxy nexus...existing ios/android users can't change their os because if they do so, then they will have to leave all the apps and games that they have purchased previously....i am eagerly waiting for the iphone 5 and the next nexus phone

posted on 12 Aug 2012, 10:54

138. sansam100 (Posts: 13; Member since: 11 Jun 2012)


It is possible coz while on safari there is an option to open PDF file on PDF reader which is a third party app

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 11:56

49. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


Michael Heller your article is, are, proficient...... keep it up.

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 12:07 2

52. thebest (Posts: 231; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)


hey, its srk's fan once again, which phone do u use? android phone? or nokia?

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 12:16

54. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


Big SRK fan. S3 oneX Nokia 8800 carbon Arte. And you?

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 12:30 2

55. thebest (Posts: 231; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)


ipad 1,3........iphone3g, 4s and planning to buy the iphone 5........the galaxy nexus s and the galaxy nexus.......and also my nokia 5800...i have used ios and android but this one was my first touch screen phone and i love it :)

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 15:36 2

88. theBankRobber (Posts: 681; Member since: 22 Sep 2011)


All I hear is a bunch of whining coming out your mouth.

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 23:08 1

126. thebest (Posts: 231; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)


oh shut up........i don't like to stick to a single os, i am not a fanboy and i don't want to be an unpaid promoter of any os.....infact, i am also thinking of trying windows 8 now.....everyone should do that before telling good or bad about any os

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 15:44 3

91. Martine (Posts: 102; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)


Micheal,
You are simply the best here.
Ray and Alan should really learn from instead writing bogus copy and paste articles every time

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 10:08 1

6. Jobes (Posts: 364; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)


Great article Michael, Apple cannot expect to go thermonucular without fallout. To remove YouTube.... I can hear the screams already.

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 10:10 11

7. jmoita2 (Posts: 930; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)


The war Apple started against Google/Android reminds me of the war Germany once started against the old USSR. Extremely successful at first, but in the end led to their ultimate destruction...

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 10:14 6

8. Jobes (Posts: 364; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)


Germany was doing swell till they decided to fight on multiple fronts.. wonder what Apple is doing..

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 10:36 3

18. MeoCao (unregistered)


Haha, but the result of that war is a prosperous Germany and extinction of USSR.

Joking aside, we can see that Apple became too arrogant and tries to use lawsuits to discredit competitors instead of improving their OS. They take users for fools that can be deceived by their theatrics.

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 10:56 5

23. tedkord (Posts: 12247; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


That was not the result of that war. The fall of Russia and the rise of a prosperous Germany had to do with one embracing freedom, the other embracing draconian tyranny and closed walls.

Now, some uncanny parallels can be drawn from this to the current Android/iOS war as well.

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 11:26 4

37. MeoCao (unregistered)


Was democracy in Germany possible w/o the defeat of the old Germany? And victory in WW2 made the Soviets believe they were right and made any change to the system impossible.

So I think Apple's victory in mobile war over Nokia and RIM is fitting analogy to the Soviet victory in WW2 with Google playing the role of democratic forces.

Totalitarian Apple will be defeated. LOL

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