Intel wants to boost PC sales by putting Android alongside Windows in the same box
Dubbed "Dual OS", the computer would use virtualization to allow Windows and Android apps to run side by side without having to reboot the machine. The whole idea is nothing new. Samsung in June launched its Samsung ATIV Q tablet that boots Windows and Android using an app called "Dual OS". The "Dual OS" name was also used by Asus for a tablet that recently visited the FCC. Asus recently produced a teaser video for a dual-boot Transformer slate that is expected to visit CES next week.
But "Dual OS" might not be the name employed by Intel for the dual boot program. According to Time Magazine, the program will be named "PC Plus". But the whole idea might not go anywhere. While Intel has the chips that can power both OS, Microsoft is apparently not happy with this. The company has been working on putting all of its Windows apps into one marketplace and is not excited about seeing Android apps available for the same box, running alongside Windows apps. Microsoft could use the leverage it has over manufacturers, such as cutting discounts on Windows 8, or refusing to budget marketing money, in an effort to get manufacturers to back off.
You might think that with Android being open source, there isn't much that Google could do to block the use of Android on a laptop that also runs Windows. But you'd be wrong. Google can withhold use of the Google Play Store and Google applications like Maps and YouTube.
source: TheVerge via AndroidAuthority
1. apple4never (Posts: 678; Member since: 08 May 2013)
that would be sick, but wasn't there a mod to install android onto your pc a while back?
18. apple4never (Posts: 678; Member since: 08 May 2013)
no, it was a method to make you roc run android like full android not just apps
21. apple4never (Posts: 678; Member since: 08 May 2013)
2. ocilfa (Posts: 284; Member since: 03 Aug 2012)
I don't see why google would disapprove of this. All the more people to buy apps and such.
36. elitewolverine (Posts: 489; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
because for every pc sold, that has windows, MS would make money from droid. If I am not mistaken that is. Unless that is solely on hardware stuff used solely in phones.
51. AppleHateBoy (Posts: 334; Member since: 29 Feb 2012)
I fail to see how Microsoft would make money from Android (other than licensing patents that is).
14. rodneyej1 (Posts: 2687; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Not likely, my friend... More like Leader❕
29. rodneyej1 (Posts: 2687; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
That's ok, as long as I'm still the leader... Lol❕ Really❔
46. nasznjoka (Posts: 220; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)
rodneyj1 the son of microsoft tell me brother. Ir seems people don't understand you do they? Anyway i got some good news for you are you a member of gsmarena.com? They had their own user's voting smartphone champions league and guess what? Mokia phones emerged as winners 1 to 3 but it was all about trolling and nothing else. hope you are one of those guys who voted for lumia 520 against htc one
48. Extradite (banned) (Posts: 316; Member since: 30 Dec 2013)
Is he... Under what name? Is it Parrot, no who could it be....?
I voted for HtcOne
I know, that's what they did twice here on PhoneArena, polling 3,5, even 20 times by Nokia users. Just to keep float Nokia.
50. rodneyej1 (Posts: 2687; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
No... Not a member.. Sorry, I didn't vote.. But I'm not surprised if "Mokia" won..
37. elitewolverine (Posts: 489; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
shep to not like something that offers nothing over their current platform? Except simple games that run only on droid?
Name one droid feature set that is miles above a windows 8.1 tablet?
Only thing you have is apps, since a majority are productivity apps, I do wonder the host of legacy apps that full windows can run.
43. mattkl (Posts: 124; Member since: 01 Feb 2010)
Quote from elitewolverine: "Name one droid feature set that is miles above a windows 8.1 tablet?"
Why are you bringing up things no one is talking about? I have read through the comments multiple times and no one said anything about Android apps being even an inch above a Windows tablet, or PC, or anything running any version of Windows for that matter.
Since you want someone to answer your out of the blue question, answer mine. Who, and quote them please, contested that any Android app was miles above a Windows 8.1 tablet in this post?
5. mattkl (Posts: 124; Member since: 01 Feb 2010)
It would be nice to be able to use Android apps on my PC as I work. For example the time clock app would be much nicer to clock in and out on my PC for a more efficient workflow.
Others will love playing all their familiar games. Playing Pandora without having the browser up all the time would be nice too.
I'm interested to see how this goes since Microsoft (or maybe just the pres.) does not seem to be liking Google at all.
@ocilfa Not sure if you are just typing out a thought, but they did not say Google disapproved of this, just that they can withhold the use of certain properties. Although I don't think they would disapprove or withhold in this case either.
38. elitewolverine (Posts: 489; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
lets see windows 8.1 metroradio allows you to do just that, or xbox music, or....
Only thing I can think of is games, but if I am on a pc, last thing I want is phone game apps optimized for it, I want pc games, world of tanks, wow, total war, etc etc.
To me its a gimmick, to the public they will think like you...wow I can run Pandora as an app and not as a browser...*hangshead down
42. mattkl (Posts: 124; Member since: 01 Feb 2010)
Quoted elitewolverine: "To me its a gimmick, to the public they will think like you...wow I can run Pandora as an app and not as a browser...*hangshead down"
That's really neat that you mentioned other apps that do what I said could be done but it's bad if it's Pandora? I also don't remember taking a side, I just mentioned it could be done. What if someone doesn't like or use ANY of those streaming apps and ONLY use Pandora? Like I've had to say in other posts in reply to you, OPEN YOUR MIND. Again, everything does not revolve around your opinions. You can not use any of the features and I and most won't care at all.
Why are you bringing up and defending PC games for some reason? I like PC games too buddy, did I say something negative towards them? Did I say Android or just phones apps in general were better?
I don't see where I said wow or showed any sign of wow excitement for this. Quote from my post: "It would be nice to be able to use Android apps on my PC as I work." Did you take "It would be nice" as OMFG!!!!!!! finally Android apps on a PC I'm now complete!!! Do you think I don't have 8.1 and didn't know my PC had apps already?
"To me its a gimmick, to the public they will think like you" I love how you separate yourself from the public somehow. Last I checked, you were also part of that group. And I hope they do think like me over you, open minded.
Lastly, I would like to see you run Pandora as a browser. I can only use it within the browser. Maybe you are super awesome compared to us "public".
Lots of clarifying questions in my post, I hope it doesn't overload you while trying to answer. Although I assume you will just get defensive, your natural human defense to your ignorance and closed mind.
8. Mr_Awesome (Posts: 20; Member since: 02 Jan 2014)
It would be awesome if both were running on the same phone... probably not gonna happen but i think it would be sweet
9. Ant34 (Posts: 191; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)
Why would you need them running on the same phone when you can skin your Android phone to look exactly like a Windows Phone?
10. mattkl (Posts: 124; Member since: 01 Feb 2010)
Skinning doesn't necessarily add any of the features of Windows Phone phones. I want to say more to you but will hold my tongue this time.
27. mattkl (Posts: 124; Member since: 01 Feb 2010)
It's not always worth it. They may be tired or just not thinking straight at the moment. Just don't want misinformation confusing people thinking skinning is anything like what the article is actually talking about.
I have to keep myself in check, I can fly off......
My passion for accuracy gets the best of me at times.
20. Mr_Awesome (Posts: 20; Member since: 02 Jan 2014)
I just think it would be cool to have both options... I love both
11. ojz0r (Posts: 4; Member since: 30 Dec 2013)
It sounds like microsoft has more to win from this than google. With win 8 (real and rt) having a hard time selling, this will be a great selling point and therefor increasing the demand for win 8 with apps for it.
33. rodneyej1 (Posts: 2687; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Do you really think W8 is having a hard time selling❔... Do you know how many laptops, all in ones, towers, and tablets were sold this year with W8 on board❔ Practically every new PC sold in 2013 was loaded with W8.. Now, PC sales are down, but the reality is that they are down from a very high number.. Just go to Fry's electronics store tomorrow, stand around, and see how many people are buying computers running W8..
12. twens (Posts: 422; Member since: 25 Feb 2012)
Intel is not thinking out of the box. If they focus more on delivering powerful yet less power hungry chips that don't need fans. Manufacturers will produce more slim tablets which run full windows at the same price point as IOS and android tablets.
Who wouldn't buy a powerful yet long battery life windows 8 tablet that is equally flat like the arm tablets?
13. Extradite (banned) (Posts: 316; Member since: 30 Dec 2013)
That will be never possible. Even at 4Nm it won't even take the i5 in speed.
Who cares, power does not come in cheap and small packages.
Il'e take power over slim, or shorter battery life. Once you use power and specs, you will never revert back.
39. elitewolverine (Posts: 489; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
I have a 10.1 asus tablet running windows 8.1. 285$ from newegg. The next closest thing is a galaxy tab 10.1 at 300-400 for less than what I got. Though I lack carrier networking, but that's what my phone tethering is for and is cheaper than having a dedicated MIB plan.
Also the cheaper galaxy tabs are wifi only with 16gb (359 on new egg). I got 32gb, sdcard, nearly the same resolutions, and more onboard ram too.
44. mattkl (Posts: 124; Member since: 01 Feb 2010)
Who else would like to tell everyone what tablet they have for no reason? Did someone ask and I missed it?
15. mikelemon (Posts: 87; Member since: 21 Nov 2013)
Windows for PC is way better than android. I can do so much more with full windows than any other OS out there.
16. mattkl (Posts: 124; Member since: 01 Feb 2010)
I don't believe in anyway they intend for this to be a PC OS replacement. It's just to add content, and It's a lot of marketing strategy, sales, sales, sales (so they hope).
40. elitewolverine (Posts: 489; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
what will it add? Camera apps? Low game apps? Office productivity apps?
All I can see is game apps. Every major productivity app can be had in the browser, other apps are in the store and if not 3rd party alternatives. Great now I can play angry birds or subway surfer?
Meh maybe I am just bitter, I deal with droids all day and its such a pain.
41. mattkl (Posts: 124; Member since: 01 Feb 2010)
Yes it could add all that you typed. So what's your point, why are you so angry about my post?
I don't care if you can't work an Android phone, I didn't say anything about Android being easy to use or difficult.
Not everybody wants to have a browser tab open for every app. Do you think anything through? Just because you don't care for it, which is fine does not mean that it's a waste for others. I guess I forgot everything revolves around elitewolverine and his opinions are not opinions but absolute policy.
I don't play Angry Birds on my phone or any other platform, I still see the usefulness of this for some. Games are the number one Play Store downloaded category if I remember correctly.
Also I never said I personally agreed with this either (I'm indifferent), I just stated what I felt was the main reasons for this type of addition. To add content and for marketing to end up generating sales. I didn't say to add millions of amazing games and thousands of productivity apps that can't be had anywhere else. See where this is going? Open your mind.
22. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 4579; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
Why I need Android in my computer when Windows already can do much more than Android OS? Or does Microsoft wants to destroy Windows OS? WTF?
31. JerryTime (Posts: 444; Member since: 09 Nov 2013)
Android is my mobile OS of choice, but I couldn't with you more on this. For my laptop, or home computer I have and will probably always choose Windows unless something drastically changes. What would I need my PC to run Android side by side with windows for?
24. shreyas.s666 (Posts: 80; Member since: 24 Aug 2012)
I'd rather use Ubuntu and windows than android
25. nlbates66 (Posts: 170; Member since: 15 Aug 2012)
I Hate most of this dual boot as a delivered product stuff, besides, the way OEM's go about it means it'd just be another layer for them to add their shovelware to.
26. kaikuheadhunterz (Posts: 465; Member since: 18 Jul 2013)
Intel i7 processor with nVidia/AMD graphics card running Android? That would crush benchmarks
32. noteseries (Posts: 68; Member since: 29 Oct 2013)
thats great idea.... still i am waitingfor samsung ativ Q... :(
34. pongkie (Posts: 491; Member since: 20 Aug 2011)
Love the idea. I'm definitely going to get one of those
35. Augustine (Posts: 309; Member since: 28 Sep 2013)
That Microsoft would try to muscle PC makers like Intel did should be interesting. I personally doubt that a has-been like Microsoft works succeed. The duo Intel-Microsoft is to Android and iOS what minicomputer makers were to microcomputer makers. Like dinosaurs, the great ones from the past didn't survive because they weren't competent, but because the new way in which things were made didn't need them.
The greatest asset of Intel-Microsoft is the x86 legacy. As soon as Android and iOS broke the link with x86, the others are irrelevant, or at best just other members of a club, should they embrace the new ways. But since their hubris, preened over decades of market domination, makes them reject being equals with other market players, they persist in the old ways to their own peril.
Microcomputer makers eventually tried to become equal players in the microcomputer market, with some even running Windows NT, but not until it was too late and their cachet, irrelevant, in spite of their loyal customer base and favorable reviews. Intel and Windows tablets are perhaps too late and irrelevant, for the world has moved beyond x86 and Office.
45. xfire99 (Posts: 349; Member since: 14 Mar 2012)
Too much Windows vs Android and no one have a clue what a tablet is meant for! -.-
49. Darkerm (Posts: 97; Member since: 31 Jan 2012)
bluestacks is awesome and I can almost run any app and play any hd games too.
but I hpe to see android running side by side with windows :D
52. jroc74 (Posts: 3633; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
They did mention laptop....not necessarily desktop PC.
In that sense...I might can see it....but not for desktops. Laptops are mobile, why not have a mobile OS in it? Gotta agree tho with some of you...love Android to death....but as a mobile OS...not on my desktop and probably not on my laptop.
Mobile apps for my desktop.....widgets have been available for Windows for years. There is already a healthy use of open source software for desktops. Android do have some nice music players tho.
But like it is now....my Android apps can be used across most Android devices I log into. That right there is a huge plus. Log into Google on a laptop and have access to all my Android apps. Nice.