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Intel says Android not ready for multiple-core processors

0. phoneArena 10 Jun 2012, 18:05 posted on

According to Intel, tests that the chip producer has run show that not only is Android not taking advantage of having a multiple core processor, it could actually be a detriment to the performance of Google's open-source OS...

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posted on 10 Jun 2012, 20:38 2

40. Ivan6479 (Posts: 250; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


"In other words, why waste perfectly good hardware on a crap OS." says the guy that most likely owns and iPhone, which only has an 800mHz dual core. Don't hate because Apple is playing catch up. LOL

posted on 10 Jun 2012, 21:32 1

66. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


Want to know how to get the iOS experience on an Android device with only 1 button? Press the applications button. BOOM! iOS on Android. iOS is a glorified app launcher

posted on 10 Jun 2012, 18:43 2

9. sithman (banned) (Posts: 299; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


I think mike bell knows what he's talking about

posted on 10 Jun 2012, 18:57

13. buggerrer (Posts: 306; Member since: 21 Sep 2011)


O' RLY?

just an excuse

posted on 10 Jun 2012, 19:16

16. sithman (banned) (Posts: 299; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Yep..

posted on 10 Jun 2012, 19:12

15. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)


Some implementations weren't great, but as long as every core is on it's own power plane it's no big deal, just power gate the cores you don't use.

posted on 10 Jun 2012, 21:34

67. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


Like what Nvidia did with the Tegra 3, it actually has 5 cores, and it only uses the 5th (or, companion) core most of the time. Unless you go into a processor intensive action, then the other 4 cores turn on

posted on 10 Jun 2012, 19:33 1

19. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)


Funny, I don't see any thread scheduler improvements here:

http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.3.4.htm l

So what this moron is claiming is that the Linux scheduler in, you know, Linux, was not capable of handling multiple cores, you know, the same kernel used in desktops for dual cores, quad cores, and insane amount of cores for years.

FYI the kernel version used there was 2.6.35

posted on 10 Jun 2012, 19:42 1

21. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)


http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.3.4.htm l

Corrected link, stupid edit system not allowing edits if someone else posts afterward.

Oh, and I'm sure dual cores helps out when I'm using the GPS with Google Navigation (you losers with iphones WISH you had it!) and Pandora is playing in the background, with neither of them stuttering. Stupid ftards at Intel, there are plenty of good reasons for dual cores.

posted on 10 Jun 2012, 20:44

42. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)


I give up, the stupid system here separates the l in html for whatever reason.

posted on 10 Jun 2012, 19:37 1

20. cj100570 (Posts: 204; Member since: 12 May 2009)


Sounds to me like Intel doesn't have a multiple-core processor that's ready for Android.

posted on 10 Jun 2012, 20:25 4

37. tedkord (Posts: 13044; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


All that matters to Taco is the little Apple logo.

posted on 10 Jun 2012, 19:52 4

22. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Wow well this is very interesting. Maybe the sheep are the ones buying into higher specs for processors and cameras that don't actually improve performance. This explains why dual core android phones are still laggy. It lends a lot to the argument it is a half baked OS.

posted on 10 Jun 2012, 19:56 1

25. tedkord (Posts: 13044; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Then how do you explain my single core phone having zero lag?

And, since iOS crashes significantly more than Android, I guess that makes it quarter baked.

posted on 10 Jun 2012, 20:03 2

28. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Well I've tried lots of android phones myself and they ALL lag. Also all the experts agree that iOS is smoother and more stable.

The study you refer to we're some 3rd party apps shortly after iOS 5 released so they just needed to be optimized.

You're phone has zero lag huh? Well I'll trust the experts while you convince the peanut gallery.

posted on 10 Jun 2012, 20:13 2

30. tedkord (Posts: 13044; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Interesting. You want the experts. Except when it comes to every expert review of the One X and SGSIII saying zero lag - then you want to go by one anonymous forum user no one has ever heard of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j8QQIQDxi4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

There's a demo of my Thunderbolt. Please point out the lag to me. (Sorry for the poor quality of the video, my camera us busted so I had to use a webcam)

posted on 10 Jun 2012, 20:15

32. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)


I can show you an iphone3g with ios4.x and an iphone4 with ios5 that "lag". So fing what?

At best buy the old cheap Samsung wp7 device was animating much slower than the Lumia 900 next to it. So what?

I may have some lag. You'll never have google navigation, ever. Take your pick.

posted on 10 Jun 2012, 20:15 2

33. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Sooty I've personally used the Thunderbolt and there's definitely lag. I guess you just don't know any better.

posted on 10 Jun 2012, 20:17 1

34. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)


And I can also show you an HTC Magic, aka the second android phone ever made with zero lag as well, on 192MB of ram and a sub 600mhz CPU.

Again, so what?

posted on 10 Jun 2012, 20:22 1

36. tedkord (Posts: 13044; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Did you look at the video? I posted actual video, you're claiming your "experience." Which do you think is better evidence.

posted on 10 Jun 2012, 20:32 2

38. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


I did make my pick. A stable, optimized OS with long term support and quality apps instead of google navigation.

posted on 10 Jun 2012, 20:46 1

44. Non_Sequitur (Posts: 1111; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)


My old iPod Touch was a laggy, force closing mess. Every time the battery got to 20% or lower, I couldn't even open the browser or a game (or anything involving internet connection) without it shutting off on me. It was also very laggy in regular performance. Did this when I updated to iOS 5 as well. The study that said iOS is laggier and less stable than Android did NOT apply to simply a few apps.
Of COURSE the Thunderbolt is going to lag, it's a couple years old with an old, heavy version of Sense. Newest Android phones from about one uear back and forward don't have any lag at all. If all you do it play with ONE Android phone at Best Buy for five minutes, then it won't do much good for you.

posted on 10 Jun 2012, 20:48 3

45. tedkord (Posts: 13044; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


And, I made my pick. A stable, smooth, optimized OS that has great apps, which I can run more than one of at a time, which I can make to look any way I want, which I can tether (wired or wirelessly), which I can drag and drop any music, videos or other files to without having to go through any other program.

I'm looking forward to seeing what the SGSIII and RAZR HD are like. I have an upgrade right now, but I'm waiting to see the newest generation, then I'll decide if I want either.

See, that's the difference between you and me. I have no idea what my next phone will be. You knew when you got your last iPhone, you'r next phone would be one.

posted on 10 Jun 2012, 21:01 2

48. tedkord (Posts: 13044; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Yeah, I work with a guy with an iPhone4. He's generally happy with it, but it lags at times, and force closes a lot. He always jokes that the iPhone is so advanced, it knows when he's done with an app better than he does.

He's not a sheep - he actually would like to go Android (for the larger screen, and what he's seen from mine), but he's got so much money tied up in iTunes media/apps/games, that he feels stuck. He did not, however, go for the 4s. He recognized that it was a very small increment from his 4.

posted on 10 Jun 2012, 21:05 3

49. u-suck-more (Posts: 529; Member since: 26 Aug 2011)


it could be bcos of the amount of apps u have on the phone, how much stuff u have in it and how much u use it. if u are just using the phone mainly for its basic functions and occasionally playing games and checking mail, of cos it wont lag. there is nth to really push the processor. every phone that supposedly has ''zero lag'' has lag. i own the Galaxy Note and honestly im quite disappointed with the amount of lag i get on the phone. i use my phone almost every hour to use twitter, whatsapp, listen to music, play games and etc and the amount of times this one month old phone has lagged/crash is amazing. in fact, it lags worse than my LG Optimus 3D! and that really surprised me. considering tt the Note has a 1.4gHz processor with a gig of RAM (highest available RAM for user is 838MB) while the LG only has a 1gHz processor with 512MB of RAM (highest available RAM on the LG for the user was 198MB). so yea, it just doesnt mean that just because it is a multi core android device so it wont lag. it very much depends on how u use the phone and the amount of task intensive apps u have. it doesnt matter what OS u use, chances are, u will come across lag.
now before u call me and apple fanboy or any other bull sh*t, please note that i have NEVER used an iPhone and have NEVER owned an iPhone. all my smartphones are android (HTC Desire, LG Optimus 2x, LG Optimus 3D, Samsung Galaxy Note) and one windows mobile device (Samsung Omnia).

posted on 10 Jun 2012, 21:15 2

56. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)


Oh, long term support and quality apps? Tell that to the people who bought siri before apple did on the 3GS and 4.

posted on 10 Jun 2012, 21:22

59. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


So says an iPhone fan that probably upgrades to every new version of the iPhone..that has such a great user experience...one really wouldnt need to upgrade, right?

We ALL are sheep when it comes to specs for the most part.

posted on 10 Jun 2012, 21:27 1

62. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Not really I was a blackberry user before I got the 3GS. Right now for me iOS is the best. Android has some cool features, but I'm not willing to give up my pleasant experience with my iPhone for that. When something's comes out that's worth switching too I will.

Last year I tried out the charge and thunderbolt. This year I have the Galaxy 7.7. I'm not impressed with the experience on android. Constant lag and bugs isn't worth it to me.

posted on 10 Jun 2012, 21:30 1

64. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


That's the downside of android to me

posted on 10 Jun 2012, 21:32 1

65. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


For me it costs nothing to upgrade because I sell my iPhone for more than I bought it. The $200 I spent on the 3GS is all I've spent to go to the 4 and 4S. I sold the 3GS and the 4 for $260 each.

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