Ice Cream Sandwich debut moved up to October to compete with the Apple iPhone?
0. phoneArena 09 Aug 2011, 15:03 posted on
According to a source for BGR, Google is moving up the release date of Ice Cream Sandwich and the first devices to have it installed as a means to combat the expected launch of the Apple iPhone 5; one possible ICS device could be a next-generation Nexus handset...
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44. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 2839; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
If Steve Jobs told you to shove your iphone up your ass, you would.
52. Rich (unregistered)
59. Sniggly (Posts: 6400; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Bulls**t. Some bugs may arise, but even the most crippling of issues don't end up being widespread at all.
That's more than can be said for iOS 4 for the iPhone 3G and the iPod Touch. This was a well documented case, btw, so don't you even dare try to evade this one.
22. luis_lopez_351 (Posts: 951; Member since: 18 Nov 2010)
This is all like a car race between Android, IOS, Blackberry, QNX, Symbian, Windows mobile, WP7, Bada, WebOs, Palm Os, Microsoft Kin and Meego. Thee first one's to leave the starting line was Palm Os and Blackberry. It was only them 2 but then Palm Os broke down. Then Symbian and Apple Jumped in the race and windows mobile wanted to follow but got lost on the way, then android got in the race at the right time with the right stuff and beat Blackberry and Symbian. Now its head to head with apple. Then Microsoft wanted to stall for Windows mobile and created Microsoft kin which was a very "slow car" but a miracle happened Windows mobile found its way back as WP7 but only to be in the same spot with WebOs. Then a challenger out of nowhere named meego entered the race, it had a better car than anyone else but its driver Nokia gave up on it before it could start and went to Wp7, along with Samsung ignoring bada Os. Blackberry tried its best catching up to IOS and Android by preparing to ditch its OS and ride QNX, so far its slowing them down trying to drive 2 cars at once. Same thing with Symbian, nokia stopped maintaining its car and now its hardly moving, just to help WP7 pass by. So far Android and IOS are struggling for 1st place while blackberry/QNX is in 3rd/8th, followed by WP7 and Symbian both in 4th and Web OS in 6th with Bada far in 7th place. leaving meego dead last in 9th place. P.S. its not facts, just an observation/opinion/tale, so dont argue about it lol
74. remixfa (Posts: 13901; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
good story, but you forgot that Windows Mobile is an original mobile OS. Its as old as Palm if not older...(dont feel like looking up which is which.. lol)
23. hi my name is billy. (unregistered)
Google has almost nothing to do with updating android phones. They simply supply an open source OS that OEMs and carriers are able yo get their hands on. If you want to blame someone for slow updates then blame the carriers primarily. Since they try to use a new android version as a selling point.
25. Lwazi_N (Posts: 205; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)
The main objective of Ice Cream Sandwich aka 2.4 is to conjoin Honeycomb and Gingerbread such that Android tablets running Honeycomb can play Gingerbread apps. This of course, will see the rise in sales of the Xoom (hopefully) and other tablets which were not selling because of the lack of apps. Also the pixellation/incompatibility of mobile Android apps on tablets, will be eliminated.
29. Synack (Posts: 631; Member since: 05 Jul 2011)
I don't think most of you get it. None of the current phones are going to get updated to Ice Cream Sandwich. ICS has the bottom navigation buttons internally in its OS, just like Honeycomb, there are no actual buttons on the front. All phones that have buttons on the front, either physical or touch buttons, will not get updated to ICS. ICS phones will have longer screens to make up for those buttons at the bottom. It's kind of like having another row of icons at the bottom but they are just the navigation buttons. Just look at this Motorola Xoom running Honeycomb, look at the buttons at the bottom left: Back button, Home, and Menu.
45. Jasonhunterx (Posts: 110; Member since: 20 Jul 2011)
So explain this to me so y is the nexus phones gonna get update did you watch when they released they said all devices an android is open source the devs will find a way to get it on any phone my vibrant can run honeycomb :-/
90. protozeloz (Posts: 5284; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
that's not a reason to say that it just means you don't need to use any physical buttons to navigate thought the UI and you can still suse your regular buttons
31. twashington4 (Posts: 81; Member since: 24 May 2010)
I love Android, but let's face it...Gingerbread adds very little on top of Froyo. It's a forgettable upgrade, so if your phone never gets Gingerbread don't be upset. Google's updates to their own native apps...Mail, Maps, Places, etc. is what giving Froyo longevity. As for Ice Cream Sandwiches' release...great, another Nexus phone sold on only one carrier (probably T-Mobile) is released for all the other 50 million Android phones to look up to, but will never get there. It would be great if the other manufacturers would release their ICS phones at or around the same time, but they won't. They'll continue to release Gingerbread phones and promise upgrades to ICS that will eventually come (to Droid labeled phones first for some odd reason), but by then you won't care because you'll be selling your Gingerbread phone you bought 4 months ago on Ebay and rocking your ICS phone. Let's be real here...they promise no more fragmentation in Android, but isn't 2.3.3 and 2.3.4 both Gingerbread releases? WTF? The same crap is going to happen with ICS...ICS 2.3.5...ICS 2.3.6, etc. Just release a Nexus on each carrier already...good grief.
38. Sniggly (Posts: 6400; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
I beg to differ. Gingerbread didn't add much to new major features, but it streamlined the OS and made it much smoother, as well as making it more robust in gaming and adding support for video Gtalk.
42. Synack (Posts: 631; Member since: 05 Jul 2011)
You are absolutely right, but if I had a phone that would never get anything more than Froyo or Gingerbread then I could live without Gingerbread. I just had GB on my Droid Charge and just went back to Froyo because a sweet ROM was released and I honestly didn't mind going back at all. I do miss the TV screen shutoff animation though.
40. cdmoore74 (unregistered)
This is how it should be. A battle between 2 operating systems and a load of phones. Not some silly lawsuits to slow competition.
47. dandirk (Posts: 187; Member since: 04 Aug 2011)
Don't know what all the hype is about. ICS will NOT be anywhere close to mitigating the out of control freight train that is the iphone.
NORMAL everyday consumers don't give a rats a$$ about OS version, they buy "cool" looking phones. There is a huge factor based on branding preference like Android or Apple (not iOS mind you, they don't see it that way), but other then that its what has the biggest screen and fastest internet (now that there is 4g, if in the right market location).
The iphone pretty much puts most objective comparisons out the window. It is just a pure enigma and rarity to virtually any product market. At least 30-40% of its sales are due to image and marketing (yes I pulled that out of my a$$). The other factor of a BOOM ins sales is they pretty much have 1 product and update only once a year. Of course they will have a surge of sales. iPhone 5 will be huge also because way more carriers will offer it.
To me at least the real battle is the iOS vs Android for the most part. Hardware comes into play but only in the extremes (to level all the options for android). Though when it comes down to it, the OS is what really makes a device useful. Only the really techy/educated people will really judge their decision on the actual OS functions and usability. Even then there is a bias to one or the other as can easily be seen in comments all over the web.
ok so back on topic... pushing up the date of ICS will not do a thing about the iphone 5 sales bonanza that will happen. They MIGHT(on a good day) be able to capture 4-5% IF they amazingly released all these cools phones with ICS early, but there is little to no chance of that.
There are already the best competitors to the iphone coming out or out already... (if they come out lol)... EVO, SGSII, Bionic etc.
48. boooyahhh (unregistered)
Guys, all i have to say is..well we just have to wait to see how the ice cream its going to be even do the new iphne 5 will work too.....You can't even disagree with me.
50. snaggly (banned) (Posts: 11; Member since: 09 Aug 2011)
One thing I like about android is they name their OS's after foods. That's way more innovative than Apple.
60. Sniggly (Posts: 6400; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Btw, if you're going to lampoon me, I hope you at least put some serious effort into it. I hate nothing worse than a lazy parody.
94. box (unregistered)
Aww, you have a mini-me thing!
56. ilia1986 (unregistered)
"Google feeling the heat of the iPhone 5.."
What heat? The iPhone 5 will have A 1 gh A5 dual core processor. That's lower than the current specs of top phones right now. These are early '11 specs, when we are looking at October release ffs.
Oh wait - I forget the zillion of iSheep who are going to run and but this stupid phone anyway.. I mean.. a processor which is almost a year old is so "Magical and revolutionary"..
How do we know it's the same processor from the iPad 2? First: History - the iPhone 4 has the same processor from the iPad 1.
Second: common sense. Around April, Apple started to kick the crap out of Samsung in lawsuits, and Samsung was quick ti return. They did not have had enough time to produce anything else before April, and Apple does not have the time to make an agreement with another company so soon.
Good job Apple.. you tried to hurt the competition so much that you will end up shipping products with inferior specs. Oh wait.. that already happened before.
61. gallitoking (Posts: 4623; Member since: 17 May 2011)
when i said heat....I meant in sales... in specs sure there are better devices... like the SGII or the t-bolt 4g that was a bust..... what is important is it doesn't matter if your phone looks like a brick. if sells millions... its a success... but if u have a good looking phone with the latest specs.. but doesn't sell as much as the brick phone.... sorry to burst your bubble but is a failure,,and as of right now.. not a single android phone has sold more than the iPhone...Google knows this that's why they release a phone every 2 months.... cant beat them in single sales.. use another approach.. saturated the market with android... with good and bad devices....
62. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Yes, as I said - the iSheep factor..
86. gallitoking (Posts: 4623; Member since: 17 May 2011)
one sheep to another huh.. besides that statement is old... is that all u got... u can have a nice day...
92. protozeloz (Posts: 5284; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
I don't think they make many phones because one of their phones can't outsell one iPhones alone, its being their marketing tactic long before (even tho its dumb and outdated tactic) people like to see fresh devices its why they do that, they give people a few devices (even tho I think they overdo the amount of devices) people complaint about android OS outselling IOS in terms of smartphone sales yet android users don't buy every phone that comes out. even with that obsolete tactic their numbers are doing good. if manufacturers released 2-4 devices with android a year and control the number of devices they need to support instead of getting the wild 10 android phones number will be doing much better in terms of single phone sales and customer satisfaction since they only have to work on a few devices and will make them more perfect and appealing
95. gallitoking (Posts: 4623; Member since: 17 May 2011)
wow.. and I finally get a smart answer... thank you... I dont know much about you but PROTOZELOZ... and I apologise .. you know your stuff...
96. protozeloz (Posts: 5284; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
Thanks ^^ I do what I can with the resources i have in hand, most my post are kinda ignored its why i post so little lately, I like to theorize about whats actually happening and try to consider possibilities on things or what are companies really thinking. being kinda slow posing since I'm trying to prove the highest android sales are from the good high end android phones and the biggest return rates are on the low end phones... trying in my own way to convince companies from selling "smart feature android phones" because they end up being no better than dumb phones and cause more trouble than money. also working on making an animation for a "cool" way to use smartphone I have planed among other stuff
69. p0rkguy (Posts: 675; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)
Basically what you just said is this.
:'( WELL YOUR ANDROID PHONES CAN NEVER BEAT A SINGLE PHONE IN SALES, OUR IPHONE!
That's the fanboy mentality. Just repeatedly spout the same crap Steve Jobs says.
The T-Bolt was a bust? For the educated, it wasn't. Having LTE was one of the best thing to ever happen to them. No blogs even dare to test the T-Bolt vs the iPhone in real world experience. Wi-fi only please.
I have a friend that absolutely loves Apple, introduced him to the EVO 4G, go from iPhone 3G to EVO 4G because of speeds, connectivity, and screen size. With him moving 3 times in the past year, he doesn't even know how he would have been able to survive constantly renewing his home internet. He lived off tethering for 7 months on his iPad and 2 laptops.
89. gallitoking (Posts: 4623; Member since: 17 May 2011)
look porkguy... just go to any t-bolt article and mostly are complaints... is well documented that nobody would by a t-bolt.. right now.. put the the one year old iphone4 to a 6 months t-bolt and we will see which a average consumer will pick... and yous statement about moving your friend to the Evo 4g.. thats was mean... the Evo 4g will be discountinued in a couple of months .. no more updates for that phone,... shame on you...
66. richardyarrell2011 (banned) (Posts: 510; Member since: 16 Mar 2011)
Bottomline...IF HTC is not making the next NEXUS 3 then there is no way I would even consider a change from the current HTC EVO 3D I NOW OWN. I was the proud owner of the granddaddy of all 4g devices the HTC EVO 4G from June 4th 2010 to June 24th 2011 I represent EVERYTHING EVO and soon will be purchasing the HTC EVO VIEW 4G just to have an tablet. Htc/Sprint has taken care of the EVO BRAND since day one the evo 4g launched with 2.1 recieved 2.2 froyo after the nexus one then recieved 2.3 gingerbread pretty sure the evo 4g has seen it's last update. Enter EVO 3D the mantle has been passed to the KING of the EVO BRAND and I am 100% sure that ICE CREAM will be on the EVO 3D VERY FAST. WHY?? Because it is a dualcore device and ICE CREAM will be OPTIMIZED FOR THE EVO 3D as well as other dualcore device that are currently on the market. I am hoping that this update hits all dualcore devices within 2weeks to 1months after the Nexus S4g recieves it. BOTTOMLINE....The current gingerbread OS is not optimized for my EVO 3D and it's flying around killing and runing everything in site imagine when it has ICE CREAM WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.
67. dara (unregistered)
Now... guys are tragically clueless about ICS!!!
It is made to "RUN ON EVERYTHING", and that is what makes it revolutionary and most ambitious OS yet.
This means that ALL ANDROID HANDSETS RUNNING GINGERBREAD will be upgradeable to ICS.
A SE official said that all the recent Xperias will be quickly upgraded to ice cream soon after it is released.
68. dionddc (Posts: 129; Member since: 19 Jul 2011)
I'll say this, the iPhone 5 will push Apple so high in sales that I don't think Samsung will catch up until next year when it launches the Galaxy S III.
Most Android buyers already got their phones. Android's big hitters tend to come out in the first half of the year.
However, that's not to say that the Nexus Prime won't be a better phone than the iPhone 5. But the iPhone 5 will definitely sell much quicker than any single Android phone - it's blatantly obvious. Android smartphones combined? Certainly not.
I think now we'll also see if touch is really what the market wants from BlackBerry as well. After seeing BlackBerry OS 7, the UI is much smoother than that of Android and basically equal to iOS. But whether that's enough or not, we'll have to wait and see.
Lastly, Windows Phone is bound to make some sort of impact with Samsung, HTC and LG probably launching their new Windows Phone Mango models. In addition to this, PC manufacturers such as Acer and Dell as well - but I don't think they'll make as huge an impact. And of course, Nokia will be launching their first Windows Phone device, and that'll probably have a bit of an impact too.
It's obvious that the market is coming to the point where only these 4 competitors will exist. webOS is going downhill by the looks of it, and the Pre 3 doesn't seem like it'll help that much either. I don't think the N9 will be a huge thing either, given it isn't launching in some major markets. Samsung's bada will probably grow a little bit, but not so much as to become a huge competitor, especially as those phones, in my opinion, don't really stand out from the crowd in terms of being smart. And of course, Symbian will continue to sink.
72. dandirk (Posts: 187; Member since: 04 Aug 2011)
Thumbs up, I agree completely. Though honestly if ANY vendor/device can come close to Apple it will say more about the device then the iphone.
With essentially only 1 model/device from Apple and iOS, vs the multiple vendor, multiple models of virtually all others (except RIM/BB).
Would be interesting to see how an Apple Android phone would do... obviously would never happen but could shed light into the murkey iphone vs iOS reasoning on why its soo successful.
71. nimo (Posts: 72; Member since: 11 Jun 2010)
What ever happened to Blindtype, they acquired it in 2008 and its never been heard of since. If they managed to get that up and running on their O.S they would have a big advantage over other other operating systems.
75. Moo (unregistered)
Ice cream sandwich from I have read will be able to run on single or dual core android phones.
78. Are you serious? (unregistered)
It doesn't matter which party is in office, the objective of politicians is to beat down the opposite party. It is a constant tug of war. The events that have occurred since Obama has been in office would have happened no matter who was in office. What this generation of Republicans have done better than any generation before them is figure out how to use the media to paint a perfect picture. (Fox News). Anyone discussing politics should know that there are two sides to every story. The Republicans have taken advantage of Obama's starting point and tried everything to keep him down. They even put their own agenda ahead of getting back in office ahead of the American people.
Republicans or anyone anti Obama don't care what is happening. In fact, to them the worse the better. The more blame they can place on Obama and the Democrats the more likely they can get back in office. Once they do, guess what? The Democrats will do the exact same thing until they get back in office.
101. Blaster man (unregistered)
I have the original Droid 1. It's slow as s**t even after I overclocked it to 1 Ghz. I'm going to get an iPhone for my next phone but probably not this phone coming up. I want to give iOS a try for my phone. Besides, they have more games/apps. Can you get dead space on android yet? I was going to buy game dev story from the android market but I was kind of turned off when I saw they wanted to price it and pay for it in yen. I checked the iOS app store and they charge dollars for it. Android has issues and the store, while slowly improving honestly sucks. Amazon's android app store is better and they give a free premium app daily. That gets you to look at the store daily which is something I almost never do for the official store.