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ITU says LTE, WiMax and HSPA+ are now officially 4G

0. phoneArena 18 Dec 2010, 13:03 posted on

The International Telecommunications Union has changed its position and now says that T-Mobile, AT&T, Sprint and Verizon are all telling the truth about offering 4G services; LTE, WiMax and HSPA+ are now officially considered 4G...

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posted on 20 Dec 2010, 15:57 1

35. slimballa2002 (Posts: 3; Member since: 09 Dec 2010)

why would anyone want to go to ALASKA lol

posted on 20 Dec 2010, 18:01 1

38. smpdx (Posts: 127; Member since: 02 Nov 2010)

to fish? or for a cruise maybe??? hahaha

posted on 19 Dec 2010, 09:55 1

19. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)

Man screw AT&T. I'm still stuck with them. While Verizon fire off their 4G network feel like paying my high price contract to leave AT&T. They always take forever to get new phones or a new network in their technology. This is why I hate AT&T all they care for is selling Iphones nothing else matters to them. just pisses me off that us AT&T users don't even have 4G network or that many Android devices.

posted on 19 Dec 2010, 10:01

20. tuminatr (Posts: 774; Member since: 23 Feb 2009)

Here in Minnesota I have had a chance to compare Sprint with my Epic 4g and T-Mobile one of my good friends has a G2 and my work issues me a aircard its one of the new Verizon 4g cards

WIMax and HSPA+ are close but I gotta say Wimax Minnesota is faster on the average. Now the LTE is much faster than Sprint and T-Mobile

Average speeds I see on WiMax in Minnesota 6Mbps - 8Mbps Peak 9Mbps
Average speeds I seen on HSPA+ in Minnesota 2Mbps - 6Mbps Peak 9Mbps
Average speed I see on LTE in Minnesota 8Mbps - 12Mbps peak 26Mbps

the peak figure is the fastest speedtest I have seen using speedtest.net on that network

posted on 19 Dec 2010, 14:30 1

21. pyckvi (Posts: 48; Member since: 19 Dec 2010)

i have T-mobile and i am very dissapointed in them claiming an updated 3G "4G". its not fair too us. the speed increase isnt even that much. i live in sacramento, CA, and i have never reached speeds over 2.9mbps. while my brother who is with verizon and my friend who has ATT have always had speeds at about 2.2mbps way before HSDPA+ was ever released!

i just cant wait till my contract is over. T-mobile screwed me over too many times with some bullshit overages! i cant wait to switch to the verizon network.

posted on 20 Dec 2010, 16:00

36. slimballa2002 (Posts: 3; Member since: 09 Dec 2010)

I live in ATL, and i tether with my Nexus 1 for free... i get an average of about 4mps, and my phone is not even a "4g" HSPA+ phone.

posted on 19 Dec 2010, 17:09 1

22. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)

Again, stop overreacting...not everyone will see 5Mpbs all the time and not everywhere they travel, work and play. AT&T has 7 or 8 ANDROID devices, but, yeah, not many good ones, and they have WP7 now, and they are number 1 in Blackberry. Pretty diverse lineup, if you ask me. But, need some more DROID-like phones.....Pay the ETF and leave your carrier, no one is holding you at gun point to stay with whoever your crappy carrier is. Funny, how supposedly T-Mobile and Sprint are just so awesome when they lose postpaid subscribers and tons of money every quarter (well, almost every quarter). Not much money in prepaid....

posted on 19 Dec 2010, 17:11 1

23. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)

"The detailed specifications of the IMT-Advanced technologies will be provided in a new ITU-R Recommendation expected in early 2012.""

So, it seems no one is 4G officially until then??

posted on 19 Dec 2010, 17:49 1

24. Bigpayne (unregistered)

From handling lte at work with our mobile broadband I have seen some mind blowings speeds down here in cincinnati. Ive been the only person to sell a 4g mobile broadband but we are an indirect company of only 48 so i cant say exactly how many people are on the 4g network but when i was doen the speed test i saw 10-22 download and 4-10 upload. I ran the test 10 times because i couldnt beleave it myself and we are about a mile from the service area edge.

posted on 19 Dec 2010, 17:52

25. Bigpayne (unregistered)

It was also at night with clear skies so that prolly effected it as well

posted on 19 Dec 2010, 18:21 1

26. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)

LOL, that will be awesome to own a phone that can do 10-22 download, someday....

posted on 19 Dec 2010, 18:22 1

27. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)

Well, speeds will decrease once everyone is using a 4G device.....the spectrum crisis looms on.

posted on 20 Dec 2010, 12:50

31. smpdx (Posts: 127; Member since: 02 Nov 2010)

Except for Sprint! They have almost 4 times as much spectrum as all the other carriers together. :)

posted on 20 Dec 2010, 12:34

29. Marc (unregistered)

is it possible this article misinterpreted the ITU statement? ITU said, "it is recognized that this term ... may also be applied to ... evolved 3G technologies " - recognizing that a term may be applied isn't the same as applying a term. Agree/disagree?

posted on 20 Dec 2010, 12:52

32. smpdx (Posts: 127; Member since: 02 Nov 2010)

True. They are basically saying, "We don't think HSPA+ should be labeled as 4G, but if you do, we wont fight over it."

ITU is so pathetic,

posted on 20 Dec 2010, 13:58

34. clevername (Posts: 1436; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)

Pull the elfin tampons out. WTF?! Can nerds be anymore rEdiculous?! I thought I was a tech geek but some of you are stupid. Saying "it's not 4G" well I hate to say it but regardless of whether or not you want to "accept" it, it's true so shut up. Stop getting worked up.

posted on 20 Dec 2010, 18:04 1

39. smpdx (Posts: 127; Member since: 02 Nov 2010)

woah woah woah... calm down. Dont get your panties in a wad.

Most of us agree that it is 4G. Unless you are talking about hspa+... then no, it isn't 4G. If its the same tech, how can it be the 4th generation of technology. I just went in to talk to the reps at the tmob store today and even they admit it isn't 4G. HAHAH

Its 4G fast, but still not 4G.

posted on 20 Dec 2010, 18:35 1

40. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)

Well, so eventually it will all be 4G tech....okay, so all we should care about is how fast the speeds are.....

posted on 22 Dec 2010, 11:21 1

44. WillieFDiaz (Posts: 119; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

WiMAX, LTE are certainly 4G technologies. They stem from deployment of new spectrum as well as new equipment that may be but usually isnt built directly on top of the former generational technology (CDMA is excluded really) Thus, this is the 4th revision of a technology to be built up.

HSPA+ though, from what I understand is mostly software on top of a 3G tech, but I really dont know about that anymore because Im a CDMA user now...havent used GSM in 3.5 years. Back when using EDGE was cool.

posted on 22 Dec 2010, 18:37

45. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)

I agree with you Willie, but anything can be labelled...anything, nowadays.....

posted on 04 Apr 2013, 06:11

52. quinzolosco (Posts: 1; Member since: 04 Apr 2013)


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