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ITC rules that HTC is violating two Apple patents, threatens all of Android

0. phoneArena 15 Jul 2011, 19:47 posted on

Apple had filed a lawsuit claiming that HTC infringed on 10 patents, and the ITC has ruled that HTC is indeed in violation of two of those patents, which could cause trouble for HTC in importing devices into the USA...

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posted on 15 Jul 2011, 23:23 2

46. Dion (unregistered)

stealthd, mate, you're an idiot and you're living in the world of Apple made everything - and the funny thing is, it's clear you don't know anything about technology. You're biggest mistake is arguing with philosophy and not with actual intelligence,

How did smartphones actually appear? of your eyes and realise that Windows Mobile was the first smart OS for mobile devices. That was followed by BlackBerry and then iOS. Windows Mobile held the throne for a long time, then BlackBerry hurt them a little bit, and then iOS came and took over. Now Android is here, and Apple is losing. No company can be the best, there'll always be competition.

Apple dived into smartphones because it new it sucked at computers. Apple was known for making toys for kids - because that's what Mac was at the time. Windows was the real deal.

So Apple rushed in, after Microsoft did - they knew they had to take control of the smartphone market.

You need to stop sucking Steve's d**k and start researching a bit more. You're way behind.

But it's okay, we're used to it - typical Apple fanboys.

posted on 15 Jul 2011, 23:27

48. Dion (unregistered)

Open your eyes*.

posted on 16 Jul 2011, 15:17

116. stealthd (unregistered)

Having an opinion does not make one a fanboy. Being correct certainly doesn't either. Stop pretending everyone that disagrees with you is a fanboy. It's pretty obvious you think that way and it makes your whole "argument" sound pathetic.

posted on 16 Jul 2011, 15:34

118. stealthd (unregistered)

Seriously: wtf. It's amazing how someone can post so much hypocritical garbage without realizing it.

Apple sucked at computers huh? Despite the fact they're credited with bringing the PC to market, and Apples computers have been increasing in sales lately while Windows based PCs continue to decline.

And WinMo and blackberry devices were terrible. I can see why you'd bring them up, since they were there first, but as someone with actual first hand experience with them, both using and selling them, they were just awful. People bought blackberries for the keyboard. That was it. I'm referring to consumers here. No one bought a blackberry for it's smartphone capabilities, the keyboard was all they cared about. I don't feel it's necessary to go into how bad WinMo was, considering how quickly it disappeared from the market (not that it had a significant presence to begin with).

It's funny you should mention having knowledge of technology since you clearly have none. Stop pretending you know what you're talking about: you clearly don't, and it doesn't help you have the argumentative skills of child.

Phone arena is filled with fandroids who do nothing but agree with each other and you're just another scrub in the circle-jerk. Just because you're a fanboy and I disagree with you doesn't make me a fanboy as well.

posted on 19 Jul 2011, 23:45

173. dionddc (Posts: 129; Member since: 19 Jul 2011)


You need to stop arguing with emotions. The fact is I proved you were wrong. You stated so much false information - it wasn't funny.

I never said Windows Mobile or BlackBerry devices were better. That's completely irrelevant. But I can see why you'd argue like that - because you ran away from your previous statements.

C'mon, man. Where's the proof that HTC was non-existent? Where's the proof that Samsung was known for making cheap phones?

It's funny how you talk out of your ass and not out of your brain.

I love it how when someone smarter comes into an argument, you turn into an emotional retard.

Stop this, stop that. Seriously - grow up. You want an argument - you got one. Deal with it. Simply saying I have no knowledge doesn't prove anything. Go on - show me how much knowledge you have.

Stop crying because of your wrong. It wasn't my fault - it was yours. Next time, state proper facts.

And for you information, Microsoft gives all but 2 cents on Mac's increase in sales. Windows wipes its ass with the amount of market share Mac has. Last time I read, Windows has a market share of over 80%.


Microsoft couldn't care less. Your increase in Mac sales argument is completely pointless. They've got a very, very long way to go to match Windows.

Try again?

posted on 16 Jul 2011, 07:55

82. iSheepHunter (Posts: 55; Member since: 07 Jul 2011)


Since Wikipedia pages matter, everyone should also take into consideration that Apple has it's on "Criticism of Apple" Page. hahaha


posted on 16 Jul 2011, 09:15

87. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Well, Wikipedia does currently maintain an accuracy rating just below Encyclopedia Brittanica, unless you're talking about articles on pop culture. And yes, i've noticed the "criticisms" section. :)

posted on 15 Jul 2011, 23:52

53. biophone (Posts: 1994; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)

I don't think apple actually wants HTC banned and they know it won't happen but if they are ask for it to be banned then they can settle for 10 dollars every phone they sell. Makes sense to me.

posted on 16 Jul 2011, 00:24

56. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Sure, ask big and then settle. I get it. The problem is that when Apple gets struck down, they can't take "no" for an answer and come right back again looking for more.

posted on 16 Jul 2011, 06:59

77. hepresearch (unregistered)

Ah, Sniggly... I don't normally drink tea, but for you I would surely stoop to an herbal tea

+1 for the truthful... ahem... entertaining post... (darn it, another Freudian slip)

posted on 15 Jul 2011, 23:25

47. Dion (unregistered)


posted on 15 Jul 2011, 23:36 3

50. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

Like I said android copied iOS down to the core and Apple has the patents to prove it.

posted on 15 Jul 2011, 23:39 2

51. Dion (unregistered)

Apple has been sued by other companies as well, such as Nokia.

Apple has copied - and a lot of companies have the patents to prove it.
Are you that stupid that you need to suggest Apple has patents? Thanks for the obvious statement.

posted on 15 Jul 2011, 23:46 2

52. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Taco, you're ignoring some key facts: these are only two of ten patents that Apple originally claimed were being violated by HTC. And the decision on these two isn't even final.

As has been pointed out to you multiple times, Taco, not everything-not even close to everything-in Android is copied from iOS. It's okay, shhhh, other people besides Apple have original ideas too.

posted on 16 Jul 2011, 10:34 1

94. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

Never said everything is copied. Android has widgets live wall paper and Trojan horse apps which are google originals

posted on 16 Jul 2011, 12:36 2

99. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Come on, Taco. Unf**k yourself and recognize that Android deserves positive credit.

posted on 16 Jul 2011, 12:52

101. HTCiscool (Posts: 449; Member since: 16 Jul 2011)

He does however have a point that apple brought apps to the masses and without it android would probably have never got so popular.

Sensation 4rever!

posted on 16 Jul 2011, 16:01 1

122. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)

Oh sure, the OS that puts trojans on your phone deserves credit lol

posted on 16 Jul 2011, 16:52 1

127. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

I said two things fandroids quote incessantly. Widgets and live wall paper. Isn't that why you guys say android is light years ahead of iOS?

posted on 16 Jul 2011, 23:57

152. HTCiscool (Posts: 449; Member since: 16 Jul 2011)

Define 'ahead'

posted on 19 Jul 2011, 23:47

174. dionddc (Posts: 129; Member since: 19 Jul 2011)


Thanks for ignoring my response. Better luck next time.

posted on 16 Jul 2011, 00:27 3

57. ngo2dd (Posts: 896; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)

So we can say that iOS is copying Nokia os because they lost to them and have to paid them right? All HTC have to do it prove that their phone have been using this before apple then that are good. You know that they have made smart phone starting from 2002 right?

posted on 16 Jul 2011, 10:36 1

95. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

Apple is paying Nokia for their patents. Htc is not and they need too. Did you even read the article. Apple owns these patents which means they came up with the idea.

posted on 18 Jul 2011, 09:10 1

167. corps1089 (Posts: 492; Member since: 20 Jan 2010)

No it means they were granted a patent for the idea, not that they come up with it.

A patent is intended to mean they came u with the idea, but in practical terms, it does not. Evidenced by the process to nullify a patent if it was granted in error [which is a possible result of a case like this one].

posted on 16 Jul 2011, 01:05

61. rfrapp (Posts: 77; Member since: 10 Jun 2010)

Damn run-on sentences. Learn how to write correctly PhoneArena

posted on 16 Jul 2011, 01:42

68. washburn (unregistered)

who gives a C%@p grammar nazi!

posted on 16 Jul 2011, 01:49 1

69. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)

HTC has no chance. Instead of copying Apple, they should've just came up with their own ideas.

posted on 16 Jul 2011, 03:28 1

70. pirate_777 (Posts: 16; Member since: 27 Feb 2010)


posted on 16 Jul 2011, 04:53 1

72. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)

-forced closed-

posted on 16 Jul 2011, 07:51 5

81. iSheepHunter (Posts: 55; Member since: 07 Jul 2011)

-Sorry, signal can not go through-

-try holding your phone a different way-

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