IBD: Apple will lose its cool this year
0. phoneArena 02 Jan 2012, 16:30 posted on
Business newspaper Investor's Business Daily is known for its use of a investing methodology that is based on cycles; after a number of extremely bullish years, the paper sees Apple beginning to lose its cool in 2012...
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42. HTCiscool (Posts: 449; Member since: 16 Jul 2011)
I'm just gonna snag onto your comment and speak... Thank you :D
The iPhone has done it'd dash, it had a good run, but people are smarter now, a lot of iPhone 4S owners admit that iOS5 sucks compared to ICS, so either way you look at it the iphone is dead, so Apple mY have lost he battle in the cell phone segment.
However... The iPad is still very popular and without doubt one of the best tablets. It is smooth, reliable and people would love to own it. Also in the PC market, Macs are easily the best and have a steady and growing customer base.
What this article is trying to say, is that the iPhone nay bit be as successful in 2012 as it has been in recent years, that it all
3. gallitoking (Posts: 4720; Member since: 17 May 2011)
Once the iphone stop selling and Apple not creating any commotion in the cell phone industry then I will believe it.... other than that ... Apple is not going anywhere...yet
7. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)
I have to agree here...and I'll step back from my fanboyism...
We have heard reports of "Apple is going to fail" so many times before in the case of the iPad, iPad 2, iPhone 4s, iPhone 3GS, and even AppleTV second generation. Every single time, they are wrong. Now I'm not naive enough to think Apple will be on top forever, but becoming uncool for 2012 when we all pretty much figure the iPhone is going to get a total redesign? I think not. The same goes for the iPad 3. Hell, I remember when Jobs announced the original iPad and every single tech analyst wrote it off as just a big iPhone and yet it's changing the way people do business. Doctors, lawyers...hell, even teachers are using the iPad and it's changing the way tech is used in the classroom.
Liking Apple isn't just a fad that Apple doesn't deserve. We as nerds can hate Apple all we want, trust me, I know it's some folks' favorite thing to do everyday. But Apple's focus is on the general public, not nerds. The general public loves Apple and have no real reason to stop loving them. Because for once, there is a company making technology accessible for everyone. I'm a nerd and I get plenty of use out of my Apple products. But so can my mother, who didn't grow up with technology. Unless Apple makes a huge misstep, the company will remain cool and popular. Android will absolutely continue to dominate in terms of sales just like Windows has dominated OSX...but Apple is doing just fine being the minority because it is still the most desired tech company out there along with Google.
15. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
gotta agree.. if the i5 really is a total redesign and improvement I'd be extremely surprised to see it fail. Even if it only sells to iphone peeps looking for the next logical upgrade path thats still quite a bit of sales.
Maybe they are talking more about the tablet sector where competition is just starting up?
Also they might be talking about the stock value which is as much perception as it is performance. If the ipad 3 and i5 merely "toe the line" it could be seen as a "failure "... I doubt apple would care too much though as even that "failure " would garner them billions more because of their astronomical profit ratios.
25. mctcm (Posts: 204; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
stock value is traded at a multiple of earnings. those earnings are projected based on sales estimates of is**t.
if those projections arent met or are reduced, the stock valuation (read: price) will fall accordingly.
16. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
I don't see Apple 'failing' anytime soon, but they will come under increasing pressure to innovate that they will not be able to use patents to shield themselves from. The record on patent enforcement is basically a mixed bag. Apple is going to have to step up their innovation game. Android is moving the bar up with ICS. MS may or may not get their act together with WP8. And, and, and.
I am personally quite happy to benefit from the pressure to innovate.
22. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)
The thing is...they may not have to do much innovation. I think we can all agree that Apple doesn't make too many huge leaps. They make a few, but usually they take an idea, make it better, and polish it so that the everyman can use it. To nerds, it's not innovation. But to the general public, it is. When Apple introduced Siri to the world, I think we all could have said...that's been out forever. But to the general public, it was something exciting and new. So was FaceTime (even AT&T had video chat), iMessage, and so on...
I've said it before and I'll say it again, as long as Apple continues to not focus on that "techie" stuff and just showing people what they can do with their technology, they will stay completely relevant. As long as the other guys are spouting off tech specs that your average joe doesn't understand, they will run the risk of not having an iconic phone that people will remember.
Apple can only mess up by either having a BIG misstep or simply resting on a thought of "We're Apple, no one can beat us..." Microsoft fell under that and allowed Apple and Google to take their cool factor. RIM has done the same thing. As long as they understand they are only as good as their last product, Apple will be just fine. But fail to innovate (or create that illusion) and excite people...then you're going to end up being the next Gateway...
29. mikerouche (Posts: 14; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
google seems to be stepping their game up witht he nexus advertisements, didnt see any specs bragged about., they simply showed what the phone can do using real life situations acted out. and samsungs done pretty good with that also. thats one thing apple has always had . their marketing is how theyve become so succesful. i bet they could sell ceiling fans to people.
49. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
jeff, that would be true if an iphone user and all their friends lived in a vacuum where people only had the iphone. then they wouldnt know what they were missing. As people around them get android phones or even WP7 and those phones do things the iphone cant, users will start to ask "why cant my phone do that?".. then they will start to look outside the walled garden. It happens quite a bit.. people looking for more.
The iphone may be the "smart phone for non-smart phone people" but eventually like any gate way drug people start looking for more than what they are getting. iOS5 proves that point. If it wasnt true, apple wouldnt have administered android drop down notifications or voice commands. Why would they, unless people wanted those things from competitors?
35. Pdubb (Posts: 248; Member since: 08 Aug 2011)
I think the real problem is the "techie" is becoming more and more the regular person. Information is everywhere and Apple no longer has the underdog role in its favor. They are the popular clique now and as the next subculture of tech comes up where will they turn is the true question. Apple grew because Microsoft was not cool anymore. (Remember the Dell guy?) It will be interesting to see what they can come out with to help in case the iPhone slows as the iPod has. A good time to be a "techie" I have used linux, windows and OSX and i like somethings about each. We will see how things work out!!!
20. Johnny_Mnemonic (Posts: 240; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
Gallito as I said before when jobs died he took the apple with him to the grave so I guess now you know the future of iPhone : (
21. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
Steve Jobs left Apple with a 5-year pipeline of new ideas and products.
Even the biographer of Steve Jobs didn't think it was appropriate to disclose Apple's future inventions. We know the next big thing for Apple is the TV since Jobs mentioned he finally figured out a solution.
23. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)
he also said it was far from being ready… it might be their next project, but i dont see the tv as being something apple will rely on
4. tacohunter (Posts: 408; Member since: 06 Nov 2011)
I just received an email. Yes phonearena changed it name to androidarena recently. So many people on PA are saying who believes analysts these days. It's just 2012 and the predictions are already there. I'm against most rumors, predictions, it has been mostly all not true.
8. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)
I'm sorry dude, but that's the nature of PhoneArena. It's been like that since I joined the site years ago. PhoneScoop is the place to be for official news.
9. tacohunter (Posts: 408; Member since: 06 Nov 2011)
It was a joke, like the iPhonearena ones
12. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
Android will fail iPhone will fail we hear these rumors rather often like I said before when people talk about iPhone redesign we hear this and that. Just like playing the same loto number every day eventually those numbers will hit the jackpot but so far no lotto money. A broken watch could be right 2 times yet I think it won't be right. There are no sign of people mad at apple (aside from hatters). This is another rumor like I said s label saying its a rumor could save life's and tomorrow will be iphonearena but I guess is how things go
54. godsarmylds (Posts: 36; Member since: 05 Mar 2010)
Sorry im a big android fan. But i respect the i phone. And i will agree with taco. All that sounds like is theory. When share info like this. I say make sure you let that be well know. Yea, i can see how that intel can make sense but i dont want phonearena to turn to just a bunch in theory articles.
5. bossmt_2 (Posts: 449; Member since: 13 Oct 2009)
iPad 3 and iPhone5 will make or break Apple's global stand. Remember not that long ago Blackberries were the top dog and not that long ago Palm was the top dog, and for a long time the RAZR was the best selling phone in the world. If you don't maintain innovation you grow stale. While Android devices offer a variety of pricing and size options and advanced technological features, iPhone is integrating Android features into their iPhone.
Siri is a slightly improved Google Voice Search that you talk to and it talks back. It's not really ground breaking, it just shows how good apple is at advertising.
24. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)
siri does a lot more than google voice does… u cant just tell google voice to remind u to walk the dog when u get home… or to wake u up in 50 minutes after u get home from work tomorrow…
27. Sackboy117 (Posts: 178; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Actually Google Voice is capable of setting reminders and alarms, but just not as complex as Siri, such as meetings and calendar events.
33. chadrick0814 (Posts: 209; Member since: 23 Nov 2011)
I set an alarm for that or put it on a calendar. Siri....ground breaking!!!!
36. bossmt_2 (Posts: 449; Member since: 13 Oct 2009)
Siri has location synchronization, that's the only difference. For years on Android you could say "text mom" and it would. The real important features of Siri are all on Google Voice.
6. cncrim (Posts: 847; Member since: 15 Aug 2011)
Well, the fruit had been bright and tasty last few years but fruit will rotten and fall until next time. However Robot will last little longer, open source is the key of that.
10. hobble (Posts: 130; Member since: 11 Oct 2011)
Who can deny that the Apple iPhone is feeling stale? Everyone that visits this site apparantly.
11. Striker (Posts: 92; Member since: 06 Nov 2011)
Yeah, right. And one mouse in jeans carries my nuts, hahaha! Wishful thinking, phonearena! Try again! :)