I haven't worn a watch in 15 years, but Android Wear has me reconsidering
0. phoneArena 31 Aug 2014, 11:10 posted on
Just to set the stage, I am an extraordinarily practical man, which is an important point of note for this writing, because it informs my decisions on this topic and whether or not my experience will help you to make a decision in the future. I haven't worn a watch in 15 years, because it simply didn't make sense to me. At first, there were clocks in every room I was in (high school and home), then I had a cell phone in my pocket at all times once I went to college...
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1. ojdidit84 (Posts: 458; Member since: 16 Jul 2011)
Before reading the first sentence, I already knew that it was a Michael H article! Favorite writer on PA. I haven't worn a watch in years either and I, too, am thinking seriously about Android Wear.
27. dmakun (Posts: 320; Member since: 06 Jun 2011)
I am too but my problem with them at this stage is the battery recharge circles of roughly 1-2 days. I need smart watches to last at least 4days before I consider it. Also besides the moto 360 there isn't any other smart watch I'd consider. I'm liking the look of the son to be announced gear watch from Samsung but not sure Tizen will see the type of development android wear will enjoy.
33. 14545 (Posts: 1532; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
I would probably need a couple of weeks or a month before I would really consider them. Although, MH does, as always, bring up some very valid points. He's about the only writer still worth visiting PA for.
45. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2703; Member since: 26 May 2011)
Let's split the difference and go with Michael Heller
3. register (unregistered)
Great article as always.
4. nctx77 (Posts: 1959; Member since: 03 Sep 2013)
Lol at the Moto 360. It's still not on shelves yet. The iwatch will be announced in two weeks. It's over Moto. Sure the iwatch will not be immediately available, but it will be a real product and the general public will be all over it. Moto, you have failed. The way it's looking, it's not even going to be the first Android wear watch to launch with a round face. This reminds me so much of the Droid Bionic.
6. Vexify (banned) (Posts: 570; Member since: 16 Jun 2014)
Exactly. They should have had it out by now. Now that the iWatch is coming out, we are going to see a repeat of what happened in 2007 with the iPhone, and later on with the iPad. Total annihilation and domination. Yes people will buy Android Wear because they are the ones who have Android phones, but it will be nothing compared to the amounts of people who will buy an iWatch.
8. 14545 (Posts: 1532; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
What? Are you joking? Total "annihilation and domination"? Umm, who has 80% of the global market share? I'm not a fanboy, but do you even research anything before saying it?
So 20% of the global market share for their phones, and 30 for their tablets = "total domination, and annihilation"? Really?
10. Vexify (banned) (Posts: 570; Member since: 16 Jun 2014)
"Global market share" LMAO.
No one is talking about global market share.
Use your damn brain next time. I know you have one.
Look back in history and understand what Im talking about. You have the context all wrong. Kthxbye.
12. Awalker (Posts: 1498; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
Even in the US Android is still the majority. Also, Apple can't cut into Motorola' sales because each watch is for their respective platforms. What could disrupt the sales of the 360 is LG's new watch.
15. 14545 (Posts: 1532; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
Then what is "domination" if it isn't marketshare? What, profit? I know the history, so I don't need to revisit it. The one thing that apple did innovate, sort of, was the iPod, and the "store". Everything else is marketing fluff. There is nothing they added that didn't exist prior to their arrival, but when people are mindless drones all you have to do is trick them into thinking you created something "new and revolutionary." People buy apple because it is the "Ralph Laren" or whatever, of our time. It's the "in" thing. It won't succeed because it is the best, and maybe it will be as that is yet to be determined, but it will be bought because it has a logo on the outside that depicts an apple with a bit taken out of it. A perfect example of that is the fact that after the "stickers" commercial the apple stickers (iirc) tripled in sales. I use an android product, but I don't feel the need to put a "Samsung, Moto, or Robot" sticker on my car, or laptop, or any other object in my life. That doesn't make a secondary product a failure just because it hasn't be released yet.
16. Vexify (banned) (Posts: 570; Member since: 16 Jun 2014)
When the iPhone came out, no one wanted any other "smartphone" that came shortly and several years after. It was all about the iPhone and the iPhone only. The iPhone was totally popularity and "domination" and no other phone could match up to its standards (Geeks, go home, I'm not talking about your beloved tech). Same with the iPad. Thats all people wanted. An iPhone and an iPad.
Same is gonna happen with the iWatch.
Now go home and read your numbers and paper charts to someone who actually cares lol.
18. Awalker (Posts: 1498; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
As I said earlier, only people with iPhones are going to buy the Apple watch. The iwatch is not a threat to Motorola.
32. 14545 (Posts: 1532; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
No, there were plenty of people that wanted other platforms. Have you ever heard of Windows Mobile? Blackberry? etc. Blackberry actually did pretty well for quite a while after the iPhone came out, despite what you are trying to convince people of. Also, Android didn't exist when the iPhone came out. You do realize that the iPhone is only 7 years old, right? So to claim "several" years is just asinine. Just stop with the fanboy comments. The iPads run only lasted for about 2 years, then the other markets (windows and android) started picking up. Sure, the grandma that only surfs facebook will never need anything more than an iPad, but any college, or HS student, or professional is much better off buying a full windows device any day of the week over an "iPad". iPads are useless toys. And I say this as a person who absolutely hates the stupid metro interface. But Windows >>>>>>>>>>>>android tablet>>>>>iPad. and if you think otherwise you are a fool. Anyone that is actually sold what they need, not just what they want, knows the benefits of having a full windows device.
20. Slammer (Posts: 1515; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
Global marketshare is very important because it shows what most of the world population chooses to conduct its business and pleasure needs and wants. Analysts may dig deep and research any info they can to prop up certain products, but in the end, it is a larger group that could choose anything yet choose their product of choice. It is obvious you fall into minority group or you wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the relevancy of the huge percentage gap of preference.
In short, small 13% marketshare made up of ifans seem to gyrate on how much Apple makes on its products while forgetting how it makes this money off such a small percentage.
I don't care how much money Apple makes. I care how much a can save and still do what everyone else can plus more. I have not heard from anyone that claim they wouldn't be able to get through life without an Apple product. Not anyone that is serious anyway.
I'm sorry to rant. But I get tired of the small marketshare of Apple fans thinking they are right while the rest of the 82% of the world is wrong. Just because you spend more, doesn't mean you are right. You ride Apple's dink like it's a stolen bicylcle. Meanwhile the rest of the world is still getting the job done without an Apple product. I don't know what more you Apple fans need for proof that it really doesn't matter what is best or worst. Choice is selective and the world as overwhelmingly chosen Android. And so you know, I was an Apple fan and user for close to 11 years up until the point of its near bankruptsy. I can assure you. While Apple is a great product, it is not the Holy Grail you think it is. If it were, the percentage would obviously be the other way around and I would still be supporting it.
40. WallStreetWolf (Posts: 289; Member since: 08 Apr 2013)
Global marketshare tells me that Google doesn't give a hoot about hardware profit margins and are merely in it for the use of our personal information. I don't blame Google for its business practices, just as I don't blame Apple for the premium they charge for their experience. My iPad 2 has been supported since iOS 4 and I am getting one more year out of it with 8. I am not even ashamed of the performance on the beta version I am using now. I don't gain every single new addition like Health Kit, Air Drop or Siri (iOS 6 update), but the majority of functions and apps will all function as usual with some new tricks. I can't say that about Android and that is the one thing that doesn't give them my complete business. They don't even provide 3 year support for their own Nexus devices. (Hopefully this changes) I use a Moto X as my everyday phone, because I live in NYC and I don't want to increase my chances of an iPhone or a Galaxy device getting quickly stolen from my hands on the subway or on the street. However, my tablet, laptop, and streaming device are all Apple products, not because of a brand name, but consistency in experience and support. If you haven't had an Apple product since the Microsoft bail out, you are not objective enough to understand that difference. It's not just a popularity contest.
44. Slammer (Posts: 1515; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
I don't feel I need to be a current user to base my "objective" view. Many of my friends and colleagues from my generation had revisited the Apple line of products since our original departure. While few have remained with Apple, most have moved to Android for the same reason we had moved to Windows back then. The closed ecosystem was and is a constant annoyance for those of us that want to do what we please with a product we paid good money for. The product is great but, it is a testament that it will always feed the few that do not mind the constraints.
When it comes to marketshare, I feel you are being somewhat rebellious against the point I was making toward the OP. Google doesn't force anyone to purchase its platform and I''m quite sure you realize this. To use stability and security of the OS as an argument becomes null and void. It would appear that over 80% of the world does't care. While it is a great sales point, it has been proven time and time again over the years that Apple's OS and security codes can be breached.
You must take the global marketshare as it is. Android is the most popular platform regardless of how you or I would feel.
48. WallStreetWolf (Posts: 289; Member since: 08 Apr 2013)
It doesn't really bother me if Android is the most popular platform. People are more practical than we give them credit for and most posters often forget that the world can't always afford flagships. I was merely stating that price plays a huge part in the popularity of Android devices even before functionality.
I think I am more or less stating that your experience with Apple is too old to pass judgement upon those that are faithful to it now. 1997 is a long time ago and I respect your opinion, but a lot has been done since then in the Apple camp.
23. sgodsell (Posts: 3627; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
The iWatch won't be sold until next year 2015. Also the iWatch is for Apple devices and not Android. So how will that bite into Android? Android Wear is for Android devices. So with that said I do not see how the iWatch will annihilate or dominate the market.
46. 14545 (Posts: 1532; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
I got a warning for feeding the "troll"? Why not just ban the troll? Whatever.
7. twens (Posts: 978; Member since: 25 Feb 2012)
You haven't tried a product yet you claim it has failed. How do you know? Are you a magician? Some people are just weird I don't even get it anymore. I don't like smart watches but I wouldn't say they have failed. What you don't like someone else may like. Grow up !!
9. wilsong17 (unregistered)
Apple is his god. . Smh
13. Vexify (banned) (Posts: 570; Member since: 16 Jun 2014)
Lets not talk about your god lol . . Smh
14. Awalker (Posts: 1498; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
His reasoning is flawed because the Apple watch will only be compatible with the iPhone. There's no reason for anyone with an Android phone to buy it.
22. Scott93274 (Posts: 4605; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)
Correct. As the Android Wear smartwatch is an accessory to the Android platform, Apple's late (As always) to the market competing device will not actually have any impact on the Moto 360 as someone with an iPhone would not buy a Moto 360 and someone with an Android Device will not buy an iWatch.
That being said, I think it's awesome that Android users have many different options to choose from. Don't like the Moto 360? Well, there are alternatives on the market and that many more attractive options coming soon.
21. Scott93274 (Posts: 4605; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)
Even if this currently non existent iWatch were to get announced in a week, it still wont launch until some time in 2015, that gives Motorola several months head start and the whole Android Wear platform more than half a year. And by the time 2015 rolls around, no one will care about Apple's iWatch because everyone will be focused on Google when they release Project Ara phones onto the market. Apple has been incredibly disappointing the past several years. It's as though they're unable to innovate without Steve Jobs at the helm. Apple's next big thing will always be something that Android beat them to the market with, Widgits, larger displays, 3rd party keyboards, smart watches. Your new features will always be at least a year or more behind the competition.
So how about you show a little respect to the first company to company to bring a desirable smartwatch to the market. And maybe realize that anything you have to get excited about on your upcoming platform is stuff that 85% of the market was excited for back in 2012.
35. Vexify (banned) (Posts: 570; Member since: 16 Jun 2014)
What do you go by? Your Analyst name.
17. LikeMyself (Posts: 438; Member since: 23 Sep 2013)
My left hand feels naked without my beautiful watch with visible mechanical gears! The visible gears are just awesome! Smartwatches are still not worth it for me to switch!
26. dmakun (Posts: 320; Member since: 06 Jun 2011)
If your grip with smartwatches are that you like "Watching the visible mechanical gears" then don't speak too soon about not wanting smartwatches cos developers will be creating 3d animated watch faces that will simulate this. Not only that, there will be many options of watch faces to choose from instead of having to buy another watch altogether.
43. LikeMyself (Posts: 438; Member since: 23 Sep 2013)
That simulated 3D watch faces would be awesome! Hope they introduce this feature soon!
19. jibraihimi (Posts: 760; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)
Why doesnt PA have more writers like Michael H..... As always, another great article by Michael H.......
24. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3806; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
" I didn't want to have my first experience be with a repurposed Samsung Gear or with the boring LG G Watch"
You write about a smartwatch like you are going to be having sex with it.
30. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2887; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
You never know what arm his watch is on and if that's the arm he does the old knuckleshoving on the pisspump with...
25. Musty18591 (Posts: 17; Member since: 11 Jan 2012)
Sir, u r an Extraordinary Writer
i just Love every article u have written so far
28. Leo_MC (Posts: 1476; Member since: 02 Dec 2011)
A man without a whatch is not a man, he is a pussy (and I don't mean women).
Unless he's a lumberjack, a shepherd, a fireman or a construction worker, a man wears a watch; 3 watches to be precise.
29. XperiaFanZone (Posts: 2111; Member since: 21 Sep 2012)
This type of comment is why aliens won't visit us.
31. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2887; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
His type of comment makes me think they are already here ;)
42. Leo_MC (Posts: 1476; Member since: 02 Dec 2011)
The watch says a lot of things about a person.
And so does the absence of the watch.
34. maulgandhi (unregistered)
I haven't wore a watch in 7 years, Moto 360 made me reconsider. I can't wait to get my own 360.
36. tsspro (Posts: 21; Member since: 18 Jan 2010)
It's True, I just bought the Gear live. The physical aspect of the watch is ok, However Android Wear is blowing my mind. I really love the notification system.
37. Taters (banned) (Posts: 6474; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Same I haven't worn my watches in years but I keep changing the battery anyways. The one time I wanted to wear it for a wedding, the battery was dead.
With a smart watch I figure I can just charge it before the event, if I can find one as nice as my movado.
Even if I can't find one as nice as my movado, I'll get one to play with probably. Haha
38. ManusImperceptus (Posts: 724; Member since: 10 Jun 2014)
I've so far dismissed smartwatches as something of redundancy, but I can definitely see your point about getting the important information up front as smoothly as possible; a point to keep in mind!
41. WallStreetWolf (Posts: 289; Member since: 08 Apr 2013)
I will most certainly go with the Moto 360 to compliment my Moto X and possible future Motorola handset. I will not rule out Apple with their new offerings either. I guess it is a wait and see at this point. I am glad that both companies are releasing their first models of these devices towards the end of the year rather than pushing them out like Samsung and LG. Lets face it, there early options were laughable.
47. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5711; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
great read as usual from an article by MH.
i just wish that Android Wear would be practical for me as well but since i often switch between using an iPhone and an Android device that makes the Pebble Steel the only real nice connected watch experience for me. i'll probably get a Moto 360 once there's a real good deal on them down the road.