Huawei's Kirin 920 octa-core platform goes official - is this the Snapdragon 805's Chinese nemesis?
0. phoneArena 06 Jun 2014, 03:51 posted on
Designed to spar with Qualcomm's Snapdragon 805, the chip houses four Cortex-A15 clocked between 1.7 and 2.0GHz, along with four Courtex-A7 cores clocked between 1.3-1.6GHz. A powerful Mali-T628 GPU is in charge of the graphics...
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1. _Bone_ (Posts: 2154; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
Competitor to the Snapdragon 800 and Adreno 330 maybe. The Mali-T628 won't be able to touch the Adeno 420, surprised Huawei didn't use the Mali-T720/T760. Well, not that surprised. Huawei SoCs are always about a year too old.
5. Ashoaib (Posts: 3216; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
I dont know the performance of Huawei... but I hope it is not like mediatek, which show good results in bench mark but in real time usage it is legendary slow
6. brrunopt (Posts: 742; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
Mediatek uses only A7 cores , they achive high scores because of the 8 cores but in real world where most software use just 1 core the performnace wont be great.
Huawei is using 4 A7 and 4 A15 , using just one core having A15 cores will bring a huge advantage. You can compare these chips to Samsung's Exynos...
14. TheLolGuy (Posts: 483; Member since: 05 Mar 2013)
The reason the test scores are great and it's real world performance is crummy is because nothing in real usage scenarios is going to use more than 2 cores for 99.5% of the cases.
I'd rather have 2 solid cores taking up the same die space than 8 cores split up so small. When almost everything you do with and will do with your phone for the future will use the maximum of 2 cores, I'd rather have 2 cores that can use up the die space to be powerful.
I'm not editing videos or making a pixar movie on the damn thing. At best people are just adding some light filters or some Microsoft WordArt-esque stuff to pictures.
The sooner the masses realize this, the better quality experiences we can have with our phones. I doubt this will ever happen though...
11. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1501; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
This time they are only 6 months behind. If the MALI-T628 has 6 cores it's an exact copy of the Exynos Octa 5422.
But with the added LTE makes a lot of sense.
For the GPU it depends how many cores it has and the GPU clock, but it looks like they will use the same config as the Exynos.
12. Bondurant (Posts: 407; Member since: 04 Jun 2014)
None of the flagships of 2014 are using Snap 805. So how exactly are they 6 months behind if Huawei's 2014 flagships are powered by Kirin 920 ?
15. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1501; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
Who said anything about Snap805?
To start with it will be enough if this chipset is as powerfull as Snap801, and to finish there are several devices using already the Exynos Octa 5422, which seems equivalent to me.
Therefore their chip is 6 months later after the ones with the same performance.
16. Bondurant (Posts: 407; Member since: 04 Jun 2014)
Exynos 5422 was unveiled on February 2014. Samsung S5 was released on April.
Huawei says a phone with kirin 920 will be on stores by the end of the month. So not really "6 months" behind. They also plan to release a Kirin 920x in 2014 and by next year a 64bit version of the octo core. Either way, Huawei are the only mobile manufactures besides Apple and Samsung, that produce their own chip. They are there to take on the big dogs.
21. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1501; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
Point for you, just 4 months, not 6. But that just if you compare with the Exynos 5422, because if you take the 5420 instead (also similar specs) it has been out since August 2013, nearly one year.
But please read my comment again, I was not bashing Huawei, just telling _Bone_ that this year they were not that late as the competors don´t have anything much better for the time being.
13. UglyFrank (Posts: 1496; Member since: 23 Jan 2014)
The t628mp6 performed worse than the 330 so this is closer to the 320
18. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
The 330 are clocked 100Mhz extra than the Mali which are clocked at 450Mhz, so it would preform better
2. GreekGeek (Posts: 1276; Member since: 22 Mar 2014)
Benchmarks are at most, deceptive
I'd rather see how it throttle controls cpu/gpu intensive tasks.
This is why Nvidia 's Tegra 4 failed, so good at short bursts but comes up short in endurance rating.
On my Snapdragon 800 I can play up to more than an hour or two of graphics hungry game without slowing down.
I doubt if the Kirin will be able to match the aging SD800' s core per core performance
Let's see what the Kirin brings to the table.
4. gigaraga (Posts: 1454; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)
So this is basically similar to Exynos 5420's big.LITTLE architecture except it has Heterogeneous Multi Processing (HMP)?
10. grahaman27 (Posts: 361; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
Samsung Exynos chips support HMP now as well. Its like everything else now- vanilla ARM.
7. kaikuheadhunterz (Posts: 1157; Member since: 18 Jul 2013)
I wonder if other manufacturers can use it though
17. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3806; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
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19. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
And everyone believes Snapdragon is the best, while other Docs blows them away, even Exynos buttkicks them