How those 9 million iPhones sold during the launch weekend compare to the competition
0. phoneArena 23 Sep 2013, 11:21 posted on
Earlier today, Apple said that for the three day launch weekend, it sold 9 million units together of the Apple iPhone 5s and Apple iPhone 5c; but how do those numbers stand up against competing handsets like the Samsung Galaxy S4, HTC One and the Nokia Lumia line of Windows Phone flavored handsets?...
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1. Ninetysix (Posts: 1664; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)
Doesn't matter. Fandroids will not give Apple credit for this one. Their hate is too strong...must have sucked getting bullied by Steve Jobs when he was still alive. Hopefully they'll be able to recover and find inner peace.
4. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1629; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)
there is really no point in starting a flame war...! You are just as bad as them!
76. DukeX (Posts: 327; Member since: 28 Aug 2013)
This dude has S4 but bashes android whenever he gets the chance. He's the biggest hypocrite on this site. It's probably not even his s4.
80. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8719; Member since: 14 May 2012)
It's a S4... Touchwiz is the only UI that has a battery icon on the ROM.
82. Ninetysix (Posts: 1664; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)
Using battery mods from GoldenEye but iBastid got them from NadMaj.
90. DukeX (Posts: 327; Member since: 28 Aug 2013)
Man does it really matter? As if a battery icon percentage can't be faked with the proper method. I haven't used a custom rom yet but i know of the different customization methods through rooting. Not saying he doesn't have an S4 but he does have a problem with being a hypocrite. I should make a Meme out of him. "Bashes android for lag. Uses Android still!"
100. Ninetysix (Posts: 1664; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)
My S4 had tons of lag till i changed ROMS and removed most of the AT&T/Samsung bloatware.
103. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Blame that useless S600 CPU, which is struggling to push the software! Don't blame Android ™ it's the year for A15s not halfbaked! Android needs laptop power to push it's OS! Christ it's a mini Laptop! What do you expect,,,, ™
88. Altair (Posts: 325; Member since: 02 Feb 2012)
Well, you got laggy and slow device compared to iPhone 5s! IPhone is about 40% faster :)
10. silencer271 (Posts: 212; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
↑ Troll. But apple fans will never give android credit for anything. Apple made the smart phone dumb enough for the average user. Android made the smart phone even better. So many of my friends on facebook who got ios 7 are thinking about switching to android just because IOS 7 gave them a taste of an environment they can only dream of.
13. doejon (Posts: 358; Member since: 31 Jul 2012)
cuz iphone buyer are idiots lol 64 bit soc with 1 gb ram??
apple is fooling all the customers hahaha
15. Ninetysix (Posts: 1664; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)
If they are idiots, then what would you call those people buying the phones that the 5S beat? :)
75. wildfiregt (Posts: 98; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)
That's browser test not cpu. Low pixels on screen helps alot. the iphone 5 does better than snapdragon 600 or 800 devices. Does this mean the cpu of the i5 is better ? no, it isn't. Just a Browser test damn it
79. Ninetysix (Posts: 1664; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)
Page 7 of the anandtech review has all the GPU tests.
81. awani1 (Posts: 25; Member since: 16 Sep 2013)
B4 u make anymore blonders pls note dat phone dat iphone5s beat nd fones dat beat iphone5s are often cheaper dan d iphone5s
43. maysider (Posts: 38; Member since: 11 Aug 2013)
No, we understand that marketing is able to sell any crap:
"Apple iOS Apps Leak More Personal Info Than Android".
"iPhones most vulnerable among smartphones"
"40% of iOS popular apps invade your privacy without any permission"
66. frydaexiii (Posts: 1238; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)
When the swine flu broke out, did you give credit to the hospital for admitting more patients, or blame the flu for spreading so quickly?
Same here, Apple's sales are not reliant on how good their products are, just how many stupid people are willing to buy them.
An excellent example would be the iPhone 5C. Apple literally cut corners with this one and tried to rip you people off my replacing the metal of the iPhone 5 with a plastic shell. Even the Apple overlords themselves said that they just found a way to make an excellent product at a lower cost. But the selling price is the same as if the iPhone 5 was to still be on sale, so whose cost did it lower? Obviously, Apple. Even after that, the 5C still sold a good few millions.
What does that tell you about their main demographic? These people are willing to buy what ever garbage Apple churns out, but that isn't what pisses me (and other fandroids) off, it's your money to waste and we don't give a crap. What we do hate is the fact that you're trying to justify wasting that money with out any valid arguments except "it sold 9 million, it must be good. Android never sold that much, Android sucks".
67. rawbow (Posts: 428; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)
so what would you say about the flagship droids which are made of plastic or 5C material and sell for the same or nearly the same price as iPhones, what does that tell you about their main demofraphic?
69. frydaexiii (Posts: 1238; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)
That's the thing, for Android, no OEM has ever sold a metal (or a premium material) phone and then replace it with cheap plastic and sell it for the same price. If anything, they did the exact opposite, the HTC One X and HTC One, One X made of plastic, One made of aluminium, both sold at the same price at launch. Companies should strive to give consumers the best deal for their money (or at least let them think they do) and yet there are people supporting companies that are doing the opposite (iPhone 5C, Xbox One, etc.)
87. E.N. (Posts: 2339; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
Here's the issue. If the iPhone 5 launched with the 5S, I don't think there would be very high iPhone 5 sales. It seems like there is a huge demand for a color iPhone and ultimately that's what Apple delivered. If people didn't want a colorful iPhone, they wouldn't buy it...
Don't forget, many stores like Best Buy are still selling the iPhone 5 they have remaining. Why aren't people buying it? Simple, it's cause they rather have the iPhone 5C. It's not up to you to decide what's best for everyone.
85. GeekyGene (Posts: 88; Member since: 25 Aug 2013)
"What we do hate is the fact that you're trying to justify wasting that money"
Who is "we"? Team Android? Yeah cos this all sounds so much less retarded.
95. kaira (Posts: 26; Member since: 12 May 2013)
Whatever bullsh*t you are spewing IOS is a crap...! Fact is: ANDROID ROCKS! I'm not starting any fanboys wars, just STATING THE FACT
8. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1629; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)
how? they just spend ther money on what they want to? Be it a iPhone or a galaxy!
16. xperiaDROID (Posts: 5586; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
People are really insane, queuing up outside the Apple store just for an iPhone.
29. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8719; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Look who just got unbanned from PA and is about to troll pretty soon.
40. rawbow (Posts: 428; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)
And people stalking iPhone users queuing outside Apple stores would be xperiaDROID!!! LOL
49. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1629; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)
no.....because its all over the damn news!
68. rawbow (Posts: 428; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)
good thing about news on the net....you can choose to ignore it, not comment on it ...but oh wait...clicking every article and replying to every posts by product fans credits to a stalker ...just saying yo
3. asulect (Posts: 131; Member since: 27 Aug 2012)
Not that it makes much difference, why do we combine the two iphone models and other manufactures only get one model counted?
7. itzmando (Posts: 114; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
I was wondering the same thing. Isn't the 5c a midrange, so why compare to the flagship devices.
So how many 5S were sold alone not including the 5c. Alan F. please revise since this does not reflect the numbers between flagship android devices and the 5S alone.
77. itzmando (Posts: 114; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
But it doesn't reflect that in the actual article. If its a comparison to total sales it should ONLY be between other OEM flagship android devices and the iPhone 5S, it should state the number rather than reference the source.
If it was just a simple article on how many devices were sold for both 5S and 5c over 3 day period, not including sales figures against other OEMs then I wouldn't have a problem.
But when you see these sales figures its a great accomplishment for Apple, I totally applause their success but its the Apple followers that for some reason just have to be snobs and state "No on can touch Apple's sales number in such a short amount of time" is just annoying and childish.
If I read an article I hope that the writers stick to their due diligence in presenting a clear, honest, non-biased(as possible) and specific information. Such as sales figures between flagship devices ONLY not the more affordable option(considered midrange) included within that sales figure.
18. Sauce (unregistered)
They stated earlier that it was a 1:3 ratio. Do the math.
REGARDLESS, the 5s STILL blows the competition out of the bloody water in three days, rather than GS4 to reach 10 million in ONE MONTH.
Kudos to Apple. The people have spoken. Everyone should stop hating and accept the fact that, it is what it is brotha.
44. tedkord (Posts: 4990; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Actually, the GS4 had 9 million preorders, so it sold 9 million it's opening weekend.
47. Ninetysix (Posts: 1664; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)
What about no? Here's the press release from Samsung itself.
tsamsung/news/newsIrRead.do?ne ws_ctgry=irnewsrelease&news_se q=20887
60. nctx77 (Posts: 539; Member since: 03 Sep 2013)
Even though your logic is wrong, let's go with it. You mean to tell me the s4 sold 9 million in the first weekend and then only sold 1 million the rest of the month? Demand feel completely off a cliff lol! What happened to the 100 million galaxy s4 phones that we're going to sell this year lol? Remember samsung reports how many it shipped not sold. Face it, Sammy has lost its mojo.
55. weinerslav (Posts: 126; Member since: 31 Jul 2012)
Well, I assume someone forgot to put the box on the top saying this was a paid article, because in all honesty, it really seems like one of those... Seriously, how can a writer with a bit of dignity write something like this, stating "in your face" for the readers that 2 phone model sales are better than other manufacturers 1 model sales? Isn't this the argument apple fans always fight against? That apple only had a phone model??? LOL... please, this article is a shame... Anyway, by now we all know the 5c is a flop so, since it has a bigger profit margin for apple, you can see this as a half full or half empty glass... your choice!
92. E.N. (Posts: 2339; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
Apple sold 6-7million iPhone 5S in its opening weekend now stfu
5. ghanemsam (Posts: 64; Member since: 21 Nov 2012)
i think you should compare the sales od iPhone 5s with Galaxy S4 and HTC One , because you are comparing two devices (5s & 5c) with one device (S4 & One)
9. Ninetysix (Posts: 1664; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)
Which one is the midrange then? S4 or One? :)
24. Ninetysix (Posts: 1664; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)
LOL :) Then what would you call those ones that it beat?
31. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8719; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Mid-range phones according to what, the fact that it sports a dual core processor? A processor that ranked #1 in almost every single test?
PA was better when you were banned.
34. xperiaDROID (Posts: 5586; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
It's a joke, I'm not showing my hate towards Apple.
No matter what you say, I will still consider iPhone as a mid-range. Not because I hate Apple, it's because it is a mid-range, just look at the screen size, 4 inch. A 2013 flagship that still has a 4 inch screen.
And there are still many things that makes the iPhone considered as a mid-range.
37. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8719; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Funny how jokes like these got you banned last week.
Your argument is weak. If the Z1 came with a 4" screen, you would still classify it as a high end phone. Newsflash, screen size doesn't determine if it's mid-range or high end.
Typical coming from you.
46. xperiaDROID (Posts: 5586; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
4" is not bad, but it's too small for today's standards. Apple should at least increase the screen size to 4.3" or 4.5" right? Even iPhone users said that reading with their iPhone is a pain.
And one more thing, iPhone 5S doesn't have NFC.
72. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8719; Member since: 14 May 2012)
It's small by YOUR standards, not the millions of iPhone users around the globe. Is the iPhone 5C inferior to other phones because it doesn't have NFC?
73. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8719; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Please elaborate how it's mid-range because it really isn't.
91. Taters (Posts: 3306; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
The specs are midrange. Less than 720p, dual core, 1570 mah, just recently added LTE and 2gb of ram.
High end reads like this.
1080p screen or PPI from 342 - 468 PPI, quadcore or octacore, 2 GB of ram when no one had 2gb or 3gb, 2600 mayto 3400 mah, LTE before carriers even had their towers set up etc.
As you can see, the iPhone is not even remotely close to being high end. You can argue that the software is high end and 64 bit is high end, but its really not. Slap IOS 7 on the LG G2 and it would crush the 5s in benchmarks and every single speed test and battery life.
Or give the LG G2 a less than 720p screen and watch that thing slice through LG's heavy ui like a hot knife on butter.
93. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8719; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Screen produces the best true to color reproduction and is still over 300ppi soooooo where are you going with it?
Dual core but out performs quad cores on the market.
1570 mAh battery gets more battery life than most phones.
Your definition for high end for Android is DIFFERENT for every other OS on the market. Is the Lumia 1020 high end? Yes. Is the BB Z30 high end? Yes. You're playing the space race game, and an iPhone proves software and hardware optimization > quad cores and 3000mAh batteries.
Thanks for trying though.