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How is Apple Maps any different from the Android G1?

0. phoneArena 06 Oct 2012, 09:55 posted on

Apple Maps may be a bad product now, and it may not have lived up to the flowery language that Apple used to launch it, but aside from the big announcement, how is it any different from Android 1.5?...

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posted on 06 Oct 2012, 11:45 1

63. Hemlocke (unregistered)


Google Maps is FAR from the benchmark. Nokia has a commanding lead on Google by virtue of data collection. Google collects millions of miles a year, whereas Nokia collects billions of miles a year (~3 billion) via USPS and FedEx.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 12:17

72. Stoli89 (Posts: 333; Member since: 28 Jun 2010)


I'm not sure how exclusive those contracts with FEDEX and UPS are, but I think with well over 100 Billion in the bank, Apple will be a welcome addition at either or both companies. But these mapping processes at Nokia Navteq go well beyond UPS/FEDEX. The later are more for validating data and/or identifying issues. Nokia's NAVTEQ teams have been mapping the globe for years with specially designed vehicles, similar to Google in some parts of the world. The recent Atlantic article about Nokia Maps gives a good idea about how much catching up is in store for Apple in this area.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 10:23 4

31. noim1 (Posts: 297; Member since: 15 May 2012)


Did Apple pay PA to write this article?????

posted on 07 Oct 2012, 00:28 4

128. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2705; Member since: 26 May 2011)


If I were getting paid by Apple, I wouldn't work here. (Plus, not sure why they'd pay me to repeatedly say that they released a bad app...)

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 10:05 2

4. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 14200; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Apple gets complaints unfairly for trying something new but google does it and it gets love. Google maps was not perfect when it came out

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 10:22 1

30. darkkjedii (Posts: 22062; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Sure wasn't, in fact it gave me headaches. Over the years it got great though, and so will apples. It's funny how some people won't acknowledge that.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 10:24 6

34. PowTheBowl (Posts: 86; Member since: 19 Apr 2012)


Apple didn't even tag their maps as "beta" and if Google was Apple, they would say "It's still not perfect" or "Still needs improvement", unlike Apple that they will say "The most advanced and powerful mapping service out there" without even comparing it with Google Maps.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 10:38 6

44. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


Of course it wasn't, but Google didn't call Google Maps the most powerful mapping service when it came out. That's the big difference. if Apple would've just stamped a beta tag on it would've been fine in my book. But they didn't.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 11:07 5

52. jroc74 (Posts: 6015; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


I bet if Apple Maps was labeled as beta.....this article probably wouldnt have been published.

posted on 07 Oct 2012, 00:29 2

129. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2705; Member since: 26 May 2011)


probably not since in my last article that's exactly what I said Apple should have done

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 11:28 2

61. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


but when it came out maps where a novel thing

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 12:19 3

73. Stoli89 (Posts: 333; Member since: 28 Jun 2010)


But the consumer hadn't already been exposed to a decent mapping experience. This is Apple's real problem.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 13:13 1

84. iphoneisthebest79 (Posts: 70; Member since: 23 May 2012)


you are right, it was a huge step from apple to create her own maps, with time it will be better.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 17:33 3

105. tedkord (Posts: 12255; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


When you advertise it as "the most powerful" and other superlatives, it had damned well be better than the alpha crap they released. Add to that all the Apple loyalists who constantly proclaim that Android puts out buggy betaware, while Apple only puts out refined, polished product that just works, and you've got the formula for ridicule when what they put out is pure garbage.

It's that simple.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 10:06 3

5. cepcamba (Posts: 717; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)


That's what I've been telling my co-android-using-friend, he's been bashing the iOS maps 'til kingdom come like most people. The map is bad...so? Get a different one. If there's something you can do about it then it's not really an issue specially if it's as easy as downloading another app.

Anyway, Michael yo! Thanks for this weekend article! +1

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 10:07

7. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 14200; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Some friend.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 10:07

8. android_hitman (unregistered)


wow!!! nice article .. thank you

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 10:11 1

14. ajac09 (Posts: 1481; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


"Have you ever noticed that Google always gets the benefit of the doubt simply for trying something new, but if Apple tries something new, and doesn't come out with a perfect first attempt, it is deemed an utter failure? We've covered this phenomenon a little bit here and there, but we've never really focused on it completely, and we'd like to give that a shot right now (and as always, bring some perspective to the woefully myopic fanboys in our readership). "
above is from an obvious isheep. I love how they are comparing the old and the new. They always seem to do that when it comes to the iphone. They can never compare it to the new only the old. G1 was a start and was the begigning but apple has had plenty of time to make IOS maps much better then they did. They half assed it because they knew isheep would accept it.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 10:21 11

27. RamyRamz69 (Posts: 390; Member since: 12 Dec 2011)


That's because everytime Google outs a product it does not call out "The best blah blah blah blah blah blah ever"

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 10:23 6

32. CivicSi89 (Posts: 348; Member since: 23 Jul 2011)


BINGO! ^someone get this man a trophy!

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 16:02 2

101. ajac09 (Posts: 1481; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


excalty.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 10:11 1

16. phljcnth (Posts: 485; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


Would it sound bad if I say Micheal seems to be condoling with Apple Maps developers?

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 18:34

113. Droiddoes (unregistered)


No, he ALWAYS defends and sides with apple. I don't think the kid would know 'objective journalism' if it punched him in his iMouth.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 10:12 3

17. devildlm1 (Posts: 71; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)


The fact that they still had one year on the contract and decided to ditch Google maps anyway was part of the reason why I have been so critical in regards to Apple maps. I actually admire all mobile OS companies, Google, Apple Microsoft, RIM etc... , The only reason I lean more towards Android in comparison to iOS is simply because of their misleading marketing.

The reason why "Apple haters" can't seem to grasp the fact that Apple uses such extreme superlatives to describe their products is because a large percentage of Apple fans still claim that iOS is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Yes everyone is entitled to their own opinion but a lot of them are not even aware of what the competition has to offer

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 10:20 3

25. devildlm1 (Posts: 71; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)


For example, when I show my iOS friends the features of my GS3, they are either astonished at how extensive android is in comparison to their iPhones, or say that its too complicated for them... which i totally respect

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 10:14 6

18. PowTheBowl (Posts: 86; Member since: 19 Apr 2012)


I think (IMO) the reason why people get disappointed when Apple tries something new and fails is because Apple exposes their new things too much and users will expect that it's flawless and perfect. Google in the other hand doesn't expose much when they try something new and they also put a beta tag, when it's fully baked then it's time Google exposes them to many users.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 10:59 2

50. jroc74 (Posts: 6015; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


I agree. Look how long GMail was labeled beta.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 10:17 2

21. Firedrops (Posts: 249; Member since: 06 Sep 2011)


Unfair comparison. Back when Google launched it's Android 1.5, there was no Android 2.3 to compare it against, no amazing prior experience to realize that it was terrible. iOS was pretty much the benchmark, but for users who wanted an open system, that was comparing apples to oranges.

Apple certainly took a right step by introducing their own maps, but they did not handle the launch well. Period. They could have pushed the maps back another year, to refine it to the point where Google Maps are now, and pack it into iOS7. Or more logically, allow both Google Maps and Apple Maps as options, and incrementally improve Apple Maps until it was satisfactory, instead of waiting for the yearly iOS update.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 10:21 2

26. ajac09 (Posts: 1481; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


back when google launched it map programs was almost unheard of and you had to use your carriers which was expensive and as bad as IOS maps is right now. PhoneArena just compares it this way because its the only thing they can find good out of it. They are some of the worst jouranlists out there. I wish they would change the name of this website to IphoneArena so most of us know to avoid this website. But since they post ONE none Iphone article a day vs 5 iphone articiels a day sometimes you find a diamond in the rough.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 11:04 1

51. jroc74 (Posts: 6015; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Have to agree with this. Look how long Apple has been doing OS's. Android was like brand spanking new.

I also get what Michael is saying about why do it when there are other mobile OS's out there.

Bottom line, Google held back features for the iOS version, Apple wanted a map app with more features. Apple had to either make their own or partner with someone else that would hopefully include all the features of their maps app. IMO...Apple did the best thing. No need to worry about if someone else will do what Google did. IMO...Apple needs to start using the word beta more....

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