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How is Apple Maps any different from the Android G1?

0. phoneArena 06 Oct 2012, 09:55 posted on

Apple Maps may be a bad product now, and it may not have lived up to the flowery language that Apple used to launch it, but aside from the big announcement, how is it any different from Android 1.5?...

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posted on 06 Oct 2012, 10:02 64

1. bloodline (Posts: 706; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)


Your missing a big point here, apple removed one of the best mapping services available in replace of an awful one and gave u no real choice to get it back. That's why people complained, its not rocket science Michael

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 10:07 8

6. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 14309; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


No one is stopping google from making an app. Excuses are always made despite the obvious.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 10:10 7

13. darkkjedii (Posts: 22160; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Exactly bro

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 10:17 28

20. serious9010 (Posts: 254; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)


Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Apple ditch Google Maps because Google wouldn't make their maps on iOS as good as the ones on Android? I mean, if Google kept some functions like turn-by-turn navigation for itself it's only logical that Apple took a separate path...

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 10:20 5

23. darkkjedii (Posts: 22160; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Now that's the point of the day. And that's exactly what happened.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 10:54 10

47. MeoCao (unregistered)


That's not the point, no 1 accuses Apple for ditching Google maps, people are angry at Apple b-c they did it when their maps were far from ready, and this was not minor errors we are talking about.

posted on 07 Oct 2012, 00:22 5

125. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2705; Member since: 26 May 2011)


Apple could have just chosen that it could update Maps far faster if it were public than just working on it in house. Releasing it gives them a potential for millions of beta testers. Of course, the problem there is that Apple never said this was a beta app...

posted on 07 Oct 2012, 03:34 2

145. someones4 (Posts: 625; Member since: 16 Sep 2012)


There! Michael said it. The problem is apple. There won't be riots if apple weren't such a gigantic snob and called some beta app a 'work of art'. Should apple become like google which portrays itself as a provider instead of some elitist corporation, no one would have cared that imaps sucks

posted on 07 Oct 2012, 04:57 2

150. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 14309; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


No the problem is ignorance. If Google did the same thing no one would complain.

posted on 07 Oct 2012, 04:56 1

149. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 14309; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Why would they need to call it beta? Google never called Android beta and it has problems all the time. It's only logical that Apple wanted to go with its own maps solution than rely on Google and allow them to profit off their data. Google didn't even want to provide some of the features Android maps has.

For what it's worth, Apple Maps actually look and function better than Google Maps when it came out. Apple has plenty of resources to make it better. Make it better they will.

posted on 08 Oct 2012, 02:03 3

171. Reluctant_Human (Posts: 890; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)


No but Google Maps was in beta for years. In fact every application that they made was beta sometimes annoyingly long but it let people use them with the honesty that it might not be 100%, hell it might even suck. Its the hubris that Apple has that pisses people off but at the same time has them lining up at launch.

You can't have one without the other. Android fan boys give Apple too much crap and nitpick but Apple fan boys fogive too much.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 13:43 7

87. dmckay12 (Posts: 243; Member since: 25 Feb 2012)


Google didn't hold back on the app. Apple would not update it. Apple would have to spend its money to make a competitors product better. Same thing with the Youtube app. Apps on the iPhone cannot be integrated in IOS unless they come with the device and Apple thought Maps and Youtube needed to be integrated which meant updating them would require a firmware update. Apples accountants believed that it would not be worth the investment to update the apps.

posted on 07 Oct 2012, 23:02 1

166. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2705; Member since: 26 May 2011)


Not true. Google wouldn't allow Apple use of turn-by-turn navigation or vector maps. Apple could have updated the app, but it really only would have added public transit and indoor maps.

posted on 07 Oct 2012, 04:58

151. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 14309; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Corrected. Google was profiting off the data provided by iOS users through their maps. Obviously Apple wasn't going to sit well with that in addition to not wanting to update Maps like they do on Android.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 12:55 4

80. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)


Google (any one) can NOT create integrated map fo iOS due to iOS limits ;)
And iOS will be in 5 years (maybe sooner) where Google maps are now....great :-D

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 10:27 26

37. ahomad (Posts: 175; Member since: 15 May 2012)


the main issue is not with new mapping service and not with google, the problem is with apple and their marketing. when they released the new map and called it "the most powerful mapping service yet" the same goes with iOs where they call it the most advance mobile operating system. I have never heard such markiting scam from google. this way they attract non-tech people to buy there products which cost alot more and offer alot less.

this is the problem with the new mapping service by apple which has nothing to do with google.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 10:36 7

43. darkkjedii (Posts: 22160; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Definitely not the smartest marking approach with an unproven product.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 10:55 6

48. jroc74 (Posts: 6015; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


I agree. I also think the issue is that Apple is not supposed to ever look bad. Everything they make, create, innovate is supposed to be the best ever, perfect, flawless.

2 products by Apple or Apple had a hand in creating: The Pippen and Newton....huge failures when they launched. I think its just that Apple failures, mis steps get as much attention as their successes now a days. I didnt know about the marketing for the G1. But outside of the Galaxy S and Droid series...most Android phones and tablets dont get alot of ads, marketing.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 11:17 15

56. jroc74 (Posts: 6015; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Its not so much Google isnt making a map app for iOS. Apple wanted the iOS version to have all the features of the Android version.

Some may not like what Google did, but I see no problem with it. Is iTunes available for Android? Is any Apple service or app available for any other company? If it is...its few.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 11:58 3

67. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)


ho ho ho.......they dont wanna hear that man! tell it too em straight :)

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 11:57 4

66. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


"Excuses are always made despite the obvious."

Have tried to apply this rule for your self?

posted on 07 Oct 2012, 04:59

152. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 14309; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


I don't need to make excuses.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 17:04 2

103. dudeyoureabarista (Posts: 16; Member since: 24 Jun 2012)


"Apple tries something new, and doesn't come out with a perfect first attempt, it is deemed an utter failure?" Well first off, Apple is am utter failure, sorry Apple fans, but let's face it, they're behind the competition. And secondly, you forgot to mention when Apple does release something the majority believe they invented it. Like Siri, voice recognition was on android way before apple. And even this it's a fail, it never even works.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 17:07 2

104. dudeyoureabarista (Posts: 16; Member since: 24 Jun 2012)


And when Android releases something they had for a long time and after the iPhone comes out with it, poof! Android copied apple. Like seriously whenever somebody mentions a voice recognition software they say they did that in order to compete to Siri or something like that.

posted on 07 Oct 2012, 03:36 2

146. someones4 (Posts: 625; Member since: 16 Sep 2012)


I agree. They believe that apple is the centre of everything

posted on 07 Oct 2012, 06:15 4

154. yoomy (Posts: 1; Member since: 07 Oct 2012)


You guys are missing the point. The point is that the G1 was built in 2009. We expect better and more modern maps from Apple.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 10:08 2

9. cepcamba (Posts: 717; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)


There are other options. Tim Cook said it himself, he's encouraging iOS users to try out other maps.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 10:10 18

12. Hafiz (Posts: 78; Member since: 20 Dec 2011)


but he removed google maps which is still the best map app out there!!

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 10:28 2

38. cepcamba (Posts: 717; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)


Yeah I'm with you on that. Google maps is the best (I prefer nokia maps though).

But Apple did not remove google maps, they just don't want to use google's mapping info anymore. it's not apple's fault that there's no google maps for iOS6.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 11:16 6

55. sniper1087 (Posts: 515; Member since: 31 Dec 2011)


That is incorrect google submitted the map app and it was never approved by apple.

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