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Here's why the iPad is made in China

0. phoneArena 20 Apr 2012, 07:30 posted on

There’s a couple of reasons why most major consumer electronics are manufactured in China. Yes, it’s all about economy and cutting cost as much as possible, but…

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posted on 25 Apr 2012, 15:29

51. juneminuse (Posts: 6; Member since: 24 Apr 2012)


I'm not saying that Chinese people are smarter than Africans or South Americans. I'm just stating that there a bigger population of more adequate workers for what high-tech industries need right now. Yes there are assembly lines and no it does not take a genius to do most of the work. But there is not better cheap work force in the work right now. Try running a factory in Mexico and see where the difference lies.

posted on 24 Apr 2012, 12:05

47. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4857; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


Ohh & here is a link about the space mining:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/money/asteroid-mining-venture-backed-google-execs-james-cameron-unveiled-article-1.1066510

This was straight from today 04/24/12. lol

You need to educate yourself my man!

posted on 20 Apr 2012, 09:29 4

8. MYTHiKAL (Posts: 33; Member since: 20 Aug 2011)


The article does not state that ONLY china has them.. It just says, that China has a huge % of it.. and basically that they are the ones that are taking advantage of this and mining the heck out of them.. the US also has a huge percentage of it,, but like everything else, the US will not get deep into mining until everyone else is out of their resources.. LOL

posted on 20 Apr 2012, 09:44 1

9. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4857; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


Yes and no. The U.S. does have these rare Earth metals/minerals but not nearly as much as China does. It's understood throughout the world that China has the most of these elements. The U.S. is going to the Moon in 2020 to start to set up a Lunar base so they can take off to Mars (for exploration/mining purposes) from there, instead of Earth & to mine the Moon for these rare Earth metals/minerals that we are going to need.

The Moon is going change drastically in the next 20 years or so.

posted on 20 Apr 2012, 10:18 2

10. nak1017 (Posts: 328; Member since: 08 Jan 2010)


No, MYTHiKAL is right. China only accounts for around 30-40% of the worldwide mineral distribution, but they flooded the market with cheap magnets and parts so they now represent 95% of the market. Australia, Greenland and, yes, even the US aren't hurting for elements either. The problem is getting to them cheaply and without messing up the environment badly in the process...

posted on 20 Apr 2012, 11:08 1

13. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4857; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


I finally found some numbers to back my information.

Here is a list of countries with their RESERVES of "t REO" (t REO = metric tonnes of rare earth oxide)

United States: 13,000,000
Australia: 5,400,000
Brazil: 48,000
China: 36,000,000
CIS: 19,000,000
India: 3,100,000
Malaysia: 30,000
Other countries: 22,000,000

Source: Mineral Commodities Summary 2010, U.S. Geological Survey (t REO = metric tonnes of rare earth oxide)

That was as of 2010. Now they are saying that China is up past the 50,000,000 in reserves as of today.

So you can see China has the most in the world in reserves just waiting, not to mention what they have already mined since 2001. You are right about the environment but the fact is China has had & has the most. The United States doesn't have nearly as much as China, why do you think they are going into the extreme of planning to go to the Moon in 2020?

They have just found (well in 2011) a HUGE deposit of rare Earths in Afghanistan. They said there is enough to supply the WHOLE world for over 10 years.

Reserves link:

http://www.wikinvest.com/concept/China's_Rare_Earth_Dominance

Afghanistan link:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=afghanistan-holds-enormous-bounty-of-rare-earths

posted on 20 Apr 2012, 12:01

17. nak1017 (Posts: 328; Member since: 08 Jan 2010)


According to the wikinvest article you posted, I was dead on with the 30-40% figure... so how am I wrong again? We're talking about maintaining a monopoly, not who has the biggest pile of special sand.
Also, do you have an article or something on this moon mining thing? It doesn't seem reasonably feasible in the next 8 years considering how much work it is just to maintain satellites...

posted on 20 Apr 2012, 12:22

19. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4857; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


Umm I never spoke of monopoly ever. You are confusing me with someone else. The fact is that China is the world’s leader in rare Earths reserves by a long shot. With out the "biggest pile of sand" our arguement doesn't even matter. The world is in China for that "biggest pile of special sand" you talk of. No one said you were wrong.

About the Moon, this is an official NASA document from their website as of 2009 check this out:

http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/368984main_Every_ones_going_to_the_Moon.pdf

posted on 20 Apr 2012, 12:34

23. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4857; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


We just don't have satellites in space, we have a full blown Space Station. Remember we went to the Moon in 1969 with primitive computers. Today’s cheapo scientific calculator has more computing power than what they used in 1969.

With today's technology not to mentions 8 years from now tech we can easily go back to the Moon & even start to build a colony there.

posted on 20 Apr 2012, 10:59 3

12. Whateverman (Posts: 3271; Member since: 17 May 2009)


The rare earth metals reason may be true, but it's still a BS reason why ALL manufacturing has to be done in China. These companies could outsourses another company to manufacture and ship batteries to the US if they wanted to. These companies are greedy, they can make their products cheaper in China, they make even more money paying pennies to Chinese workers, that's why they do it, Period.

posted on 20 Apr 2012, 11:20

15. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4857; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


China has undercut the world market, that is why the production there is at a staggering 97%. Other counties had to stop mining because they couldn't compete with China's dirty tactics.

Now countries around the world are calling for China to change their ways, even President Obama has called out China on their practices regarding the rare Earth problem.

All major players in the electronics, energy & sciences are forced to deal with China because the biggest deposits in the world are there & because the prices they charge. The cheap labor is just a bonus that China has thrown in there because they want to be the top player in that game. Just like the Middle East is synonymous with oil, China is synonymous with rare Earths, even if it was done in a shady kind of way.

posted on 20 Apr 2012, 22:30

32. QWIKSTRIKE (Posts: 1173; Member since: 09 Mar 2010)


China exports rare earth material, but the problem has been that they cut exports to drive prices up. That's it that's all there is to it. You can get rare earths without going to China. SuperAndroid is advocating for Apple with his lips still stuck in SJ's butt. Factually post any fact that says that China does not export Rare Earth, and that manufacturers have to head to china for rare earth. Get a grip.

"Exports have been stable. China will continue to export, and will manage rare earths based on WTO rules."

"They argue that by limiting exports, China, which produces more than 95% of the world's rare earth metals, has pushed up prices."

These two quote's are from an article printed by the BBC, and the first one is from a Chinese official.
This supports there is no need to go to China for rare earths because China exports it. The problem is that they have slowed exports to cause the prices for rare earths to make a profit....quite the capitalist aren't they.

posted on 24 Apr 2012, 17:04

49. juneminuse (Posts: 6; Member since: 24 Apr 2012)


You can't get the type of cheap labor in CHINA that you can elsewhere when this all started. China not only had the population for the labor demand they also had the level of education required for the level of work that are required of them. Try to go to Africa and find cheap labor that consists of people with higher than 80 IQ, good luck... the fact is we were there for cheap labor in the first place, long before iPads or apple or consumer electronics. Apple is a company that cares about profit and TRUST me and EVERYONE ELSE that is posting on your article that CHEAP LABOR is the MAIN REASON apple outsources to FOXCONN. =]

posted on 20 Apr 2012, 11:37 2

16. joeyrushlow (Posts: 8; Member since: 05 Jan 2012)


Just to add to this article of everyone worrying about China having a stranglehold on rare earth metals, there is actually a huge manufacturing going on right on the border of CA and NV, they will be able to produce these at supposedly lower cost than China (or at least competitively) and it's a huge operation (enough to supply the US). This old gold mine should be able to get us these supplies at a better price (should also help the price of electronics) and this startup was help funded by the GOVERNMENT (I know, they did something good finally lol).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Pass_rare_earth_mine

=D

posted on 20 Apr 2012, 12:03 1

18. nak1017 (Posts: 328; Member since: 08 Jan 2010)


Look up Mount Weld, Kvanefjeld, and Strange Lake
There are quite a few places around the world that have some pretty big untapped deposits.

posted on 20 Apr 2012, 12:24

20. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4857; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


Yep I am glad others keep up with this stuff.

+1 for both of you! lol

posted on 20 Apr 2012, 14:13

24. itiswhatitis (Posts: 423; Member since: 23 Jan 2012)


Man.. you sure do have lots of knowledge

posted on 20 Apr 2012, 14:25 1

25. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


What happens when these rare elements go 'extinct'?

posted on 21 Apr 2012, 06:55 2

33. becazican (Posts: 52; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)


This article is such bull****, the main reason why ipads are built in china is mainly because of slave labor, period. the u s can provide the rare earth metals but cant provide people who are working 12 hr shifts 7 days a week and living in dormitories while making 12 bucks a day. Apple has turned into one of the worst companies in the world for exploiting human labor. All the electronic companies are right behind them.What suckers we are to suppport them

posted on 21 Apr 2012, 09:12

34. atheisticemetic (Posts: 377; Member since: 18 Dec 2011)


Chimpokomon!

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