Here's the leak with Nishibori's testimony that might get Samsung into court contempt trouble
0. phoneArena 01 Aug 2012, 02:28 posted on
The slides contain the initial testimony from Apple's designer Shin Nishibori, behind the "Sony-Jony" concepts, who refused to be summoned by Samsung any further, and has apparently left Apple and flown to Hawaii because of a "medical condition", or so his lawyers say. There he says that Jony Ive asked him to step aside for a moment and have fun thinking if Sony designed an iPhone what would it look like, resulting in the concept, based on a Sony designer's ideas shared in a Bloomberg interview in 2006...
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1. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
I have to say I'm enjoying this so far. Samsung is on a crash and burn mission pissing of the judge every chance they get.
2. SonyFTW2020 (Posts: 308; Member since: 03 May 2012)
hahahah the proof is in the pudding! you can fool the kids but the grown folk now know what is going on...
So the people that are NOT in denial please step to the samsung side of the court..LOL
17. Phullofphil (Posts: 801; Member since: 10 Feb 2009)
Everybody copied everybody including apple. its just like what a tv has to be shaped like. its a rectangle the only thing that is close is having the one buton on the device for a home button. i love android phones and iphones and soon i might get back into windows phone 8 but my point is the case should not go forward and wast tax payer money.
4. akbar (Posts: 62; Member since: 09 Feb 2012)
And the judge is on crash and burn mission to make favours to Apple. Say again, why those materials were not allowed?
6. Sniggly (Posts: 7230; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
The judge is also clearly on a mission to seek out reasons to get pissed off at Samsung.
I mean, look at the stuff they would have presented. It would have killed Apple's entire case that the iPhone design came completely from them and therefore they deserved the stupid design patents. Koh is actively trying to cripple Samsung's case before it even gets started.
If Samsung wins, books should be written about the strategies involved, because they've been forced into a true underdog position.
5. p0rkguy (Posts: 684; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)
So the guy leaves Apple a month before the trial, flew to Hawaii and now cannot be forced on trial due to medical conditions?
I don't know about you but sounds like he's being paid off.
7. andro. (Posts: 1986; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
Apple acting in the most honourable way as usual lol. It literally astounds me how many I fans still blindly defend them,its like a phrase in the matrix movie,those most dependant on and controlled by the matrix are those who will fight the most to defend it.
8. SonyFTW2020 (Posts: 308; Member since: 03 May 2012)
hahaha now just think if their passion was some how changed and brought to the light! They would have much more to give and say....Cant blame em for being blind and caught up becuase this company seeks to prey on the weak and faulty with simple but effective strategies that appeal mostly to the human desires...which is beauty......... not power
22. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Sounds like judicial error on Koh's part. Sammy got its first grounds for filing it's appeal should it lose this round. This fight is going to go on for years.
9. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)
will they just concentrate on innovations?!... i like apple products and some samsung devices (appliances)
if this will be finish i hope no more fight in the future.. i wish best of luck to both of them...
may the odds be forever in your favor! :P
10. Ronoc039 (Posts: 27; Member since: 18 Jul 2012)
What about apple's design in 2005. It seems that predates all of these designs...
21. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
that doesnt predate any of the samsung phones which were launched near that time. those phones would have "initial designs" dating back even further. That is just a rounded rectangle with a touch screen. there is not a single "apple" identifier on there, and it could be confused with any of dozens of other smartphones that were out both before and after the iphone.
A touchscreen - non keyboard phone is only going to have so many shapes that work well for consumer comfort and use. Its not copying, its ergonomics. Either way, Apple was nowhere near first with the design.
12. Packer29 (Posts: 56; Member since: 10 Sep 2011)
It's fairly obvious to anyone who isn't bias that judge Kohs not neutral and clearly is in Apples POCKET!
13. groupsacc (Posts: 232; Member since: 28 Feb 2012)
Let's all just take a step back from all of this and take a breather.
What on earth are we doing here?
A trial about who was the first to come up with rectangular mobile phones??
I mean, it's given! It's only natural! Just like wheels are circle!
Oh Jesus save us.
14. boblight (Posts: 84; Member since: 28 Jul 2012)
Apple-Samsung Court Case : Technology's biggest soap opera. Someone should make a movie out of this next. -__-
15. aLmoravado (Posts: 1; Member since: 28 Jul 2012)
Why appoint a judge of Asian descent in the first place? She might be out to go against Samsung just to show she's not favoring them because they are Asian too.
I am not on either's side, but it's apparent that Samsung is being unfairly treated by the judge.
16. structureman116 (Posts: 136; Member since: 14 Sep 2010)
How is Judge Koh still presiding over this case? It is blatantly obvious that she is sitting in the bleachers on Apple's side of the field. I wonder how many shares of Apple stock she or her husband or her parents own! She is clearly trying to give this entire case to Apple.
18. sp3llv3xit (Posts: 20; Member since: 15 Sep 2011)
Judge Koh. Bad call.
She's probably using the vibra function of her iPhone in chambers.
19. zhypher_23 (Posts: 195; Member since: 04 Jun 2012)
Thumbs up if you agree that Judge Posner should be the one handling this Trial FTW.
20. ncv144 (Posts: 126; Member since: 04 May 2012)
I thought America had a free press where the press had the right to write anything they like unless its blatant lying. (I'm not American but in my country we also have free press
23. marchels14 (unregistered)
after this its shown clearly that Samsung is treat d unfairly and that judge is in favor of apple,in the end i predict that apple will win.
24. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
Lol looks like we know who the judge is rooting for... I mean doesn't get any more obvious than to not allow clear evidence that is in Samsung’s favour.. She's mad cause the fact that these evidence are relevant and she has said no to them shows the rest of the world what a incompetent judges she is... With a judge like this Samsung will have to hope that the jury is not as biased.