Here's some more 4-1-1 on the BlackBerry Passport
0. phoneArena 18 Jul 2014, 15:32 posted on
The BlackBerry Passport is quickly becoming one of the most hyped phones in the second half of the year. With its unique look and the QWERTY keyboard with contextually aware virtual keys, the manufacturer has pulled out all of the stops in an attempt to create a phone that not only satisfies the BlackBerry faithful, but also captivates iOS and Android owners...
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1. buccob (Posts: 2011; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
Extremely different opinions on taste from my own...
Ugly, impractical, probably uncomfortable and simply weird...
On the plus side, the camera might be perfect for Instagram
3. ArtSim98 (Posts: 3503; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)
It would probably be the most comfortable device to use in 2 hands. Though maybe impossible with one hand lol.
24. WahyuWisnu (Posts: 1001; Member since: 29 May 2014)
BB brand value already worthless, therefore, this highend won't sell a lot.
29. meanestgenius (Posts: 5086; Member since: 28 May 2014)
It will sell. And their BRAND is HUGE in ENTERPRISE.
43. apiskula (banned) (Posts: 578; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)
Yeah i agree already worthless. Many enterprise customers have already moved onto other platform that are more successful.
25. DevilsAdvocate (Posts: 20; Member since: 28 Jun 2014)
It has got a contagious personality- " the more I look at it the more it tempts me!!"
28. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
Device from dying company with not ergonomic design, small 4.5 inches display and poorly supported Operating System. Thanks but no, I don't want it!
30. meanestgenius (Posts: 5086; Member since: 28 May 2014)
If you think this device isn't designed well or that BlackBerry is dying, then you're a fool...oh wait....
34. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
If you think that BlackBerry is doing very well then you are living in the BlackBerry's fanboys world somewhere in the parallel galaxy where reality is distorted. Good luck with that desperate trolling! :D
48. meanestgenius (Posts: 5086; Member since: 28 May 2014)
Funny how the TROLL always seek to call others a TROLL. That reality distortion field must be hitting you pretty hard if you think you're not a TROLL. And you and the rest of the troll brigade are the only desperate sounding ones. Desperate to see BlackBerry fail. Bad news, TROLLS...They won't.
44. apiskula (banned) (Posts: 578; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)
Nope neither do I...Let see LG3 or Blackberry Passport no comparison. I will take the LG3
59. miles16852 (Posts: 239; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)
its 100% better looking then the peice of 'AVERAGE' crap you got!!
61. buccob (Posts: 2011; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
Maybe... but I did owned the Pearl Flip, Bold 9000, Storm2 9550... and they were all better looking than this Passport...
And even if your opinion is that my current device is not good looking (which in my opinion this is not true)... My current device is still more practical, comfortable in one hand and tougher than whatever this Passport has to offer...
The ugliness of the Passport is just an extra (minus) point
2. ArtSim98 (Posts: 3503; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)
This thing is gonna rock! Maybe not in sales, but as a device yes.
11. Busyboy (unregistered)
I would never get it, but I do hope Blackberry gets some success with this.
4. T.Law (Posts: 403; Member since: 10 May 2014)
The proportion of this phone will be its downfall.
5. lucid.brat (Posts: 104; Member since: 09 Sep 2013)
It hasn't been released and still u think it is uncomfortable weird....i guess u might have thought the same abt the note series....cmon pals how can u say this by jst looking... its ur hand who should decide nt ur eyes
10. buccob (Posts: 2011; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
engineering, years of design experience and common sense...
No, I never thought the same about the Note series... even though big phones are simply not for my taste, I realized that there was a market and a lot of people who would see the advantages of it...
This device will have its share of followers, but design-wise just doesn't makes too much sense to me...
The aspect ratio of the screen has little advantages over the common ones...
1.- Better reach with thumbs
2.- Better use of space for office apps and texting
But rectangles being the standard has more
1.- Better use of space for multimedia (Photos and Videos)
2.- Better use with one hand
3.- Standard aspect for apps and games
4.- Better fit for pockets and universal cases
5.- More compatibility for holders and windshield supports
And probably more than I can think of right now...
To be honest I think this will have the same fate as the LG Optimus VU...
15. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1007; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
Alright, I think I should interject since this is the 3rd or 4th time I've seen this device compared to the LG Optimus Vu. The Optimus Vu was released to compete with the Galaxy Note by offering a different yet similar experience (both of them were considered phablets and both of them tried to tout their stylus abilities). The Optimus Vu was a failure because it offered mediocre specs at the time and was late to the game. The specifications were similar to the Galaxy Note, but it came out months after the Galaxy Note and by that time manufacturers were moving on to bigger and better things. In fact, it wasn't even released in the US on Verizon until 9 months after the Galaxy Note LTE hit AT&T. By that time, everyone had already chosen the Galaxy Note as their device of choice over the Vu.
The Passport isn't trying to compete with anything directly like the Vu was. Instead it's offering something new that hasn't really been seen on the market yet.
Also with your lists of why "rectangles" are better for phones:
1. Most pictures are taken at a 4:3 aspect ratio, so neither a 16:9 nor a 1:1 aspect ratio screen would be considered great for viewing photos. (For example, on the Galaxy S4 if you take photos at 13 MP it will come out as 4:3 but if you want 16:9 photos then you have to take it on a smaller 9.6 MP size).
2. Better use with one hand, well tell that to Galaxy Note 3 owners since the width of this phone is almost the same as the Note 3 (off by only .06 of an inch).
3. Applications work great on the iPad on a 4:3 ratio screen, so I'm sure they would work fine on a 1:1 ratio screen as well.
4. Again tell that to most phablets that have screens 5.5 inches or greater. Not to mention this is the same size as a Canadian passport which travelers carry in their pockets very easily.
5. Really? You're really reaching on this one. I'm pretty sure for most people they purchase accessories made for that device (unless you're the type that buys the iPhone 5 and then the iPhone 5S and can reuse them).
20. WahyuWisnu (Posts: 1001; Member since: 29 May 2014)
LG Optimus Vu line up, although it's not a flop, it's not a big success either. It is a niece product.
41. buccob (Posts: 2011; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
My comparison to the VU was simply a personal opinion shape-wise... I actually haven't read any comparisons to the VU yet by anyone else...
All your points are valid and, like I said, this device will have its share of niche followers... but it is not going to attract any Note 3 users...
There are very little advantages to the shape of the screen...
1. This is true for iPhone users, but many people I know with Android use the camera in a 16:9 aspect, most of my pictures since 3 ago are this way. I usually take 9MP pics on my 12MP phone... unless I need the extra details or specific 4:3 aspect.
2. You are comparing a 4.5" phone with a 5.7" Note 3... I am saying that a 16:9 4.5" screen phone would have a lot better one handed usability.
3. You are probably right... I was talking in my personal opinion since I am more multimedia oriented, and was thinking about movies and games at the writting of this point... but most app would probably scale fine.
4. Same as #2
Blackberry physical keyboard is very nice. I enjoyed back in the day... but after going touch I think I will never go back to tap typing... slide typing is about twice as fast.... and virtual can be changed, customized, optimized to each likings.
I know BB is under new management... but seeing them fail with a winner product like the Playbook made me lose hope... I don't really see the Passport being a winner product, how can they succeed?.This is just not for me.
6. BobbyDigital (Posts: 1073; Member since: 29 May 2014)
Maybe for those with baby hands this phone will be too big. For those of us with man sized hands though, this phone will be perfect. I especially think it will do well in the prosumer sector. But judging from comments around the interwebz this phone is garnering a lot of positive attention. Doesn't have that "me too, taste like chicken" form factor that everyone else is throwing out there. This phone is going to surprise people..
21. ablopez (Posts: 196; Member since: 15 Apr 2014)
Well said BobbyD. This phone won't be for everyone, but those who do choose this phone will most likely love it. I for one will be able to handle this pretty easily if it's practically the same size as the Note.
Maybe that's another reason WahooWeezie and apiskula hate this phone... their puny hands can't handle it?
27. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
I'm sure that this phone will be same unsuccessful as it was BlackBerry Z10.
31. meanestgenius (Posts: 5086; Member since: 28 May 2014)
I'm sure it won't. You can hate all you want, but consumers and media alike are extremely interested in this phone!
Read it and weep.
35. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
LOL! I don't expect that BlackBerry will say opposite. Of course BlackBerry want us to believe that it will be popular, successful and so on - it is also known as marketing which tries to spread the hype.
I don't want to see any fake reports! The simplest way to prove that BlackBerry is not popular and that there is no big interest in new BlackBerry Passport phone is to go through many different tech sites and look how much comments has articles about BlackBerry and how much comments has articles about other manufacturers. After that it should be clear that BlackBerry is no more popular and that there is no big interest in new BlackBerry Passport phone.
38. WahyuWisnu (Posts: 1001; Member since: 29 May 2014)
meanestgenius is deep into brainwashed by bb blog that he became the biggest troll in PA.
50. meanestgenius (Posts: 5086; Member since: 28 May 2014)
The honor of biggest troll on PA goes to you. Over 600 posts and mostly negative comments about BlackBerry. Get a life, already.
49. meanestgenius (Posts: 5086; Member since: 28 May 2014)
BlackBerry didn't write this report. They took excerpts from around the web and posted it on their site. You either didn't read what was in the link or you can't read at all.
19. AlikMalix (Posts: 2135; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)
Good point.... bluetooth is getting pretty good now, specially that you can use your personal assistant Siri or Google Now or Cortana (soon) to enable and complete most tasks... I'm rooting for that direction overall with all mobile tech. These designs, although, maybe unconventional for some uses (like marbovo pointed out) may push mobile tech further where we may stop placing the item to our ears for good...
8. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 1078; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
Seeing the source i laughed at how delusional Blackberry is.
“No other smartphone or phablet on the market today has a battery that large.”
The G Flex and Droid Maxx have 3500 mAh batteries, the Oppo N1 has a 3610 mAh battery and the Lenovo P780 has a 4000 mAh battery.
17. WahyuWisnu (Posts: 1001; Member since: 29 May 2014)
Blackberry & it's follower love to close their eyes & ears when saying things. They need to brag about something that were false. Such as (according to BB addict) BBM is winning against Whatsapp, WeChat, Line. BB winning in the enterprise. BB can survive the market with JUST 10 million handset per year.
22. ablopez (Posts: 196; Member since: 15 Apr 2014)
Stop with this Blackberry obsession already, wahoo! It's getting on my last nerve! They're the leaders in enterprise, but I don't think you understand what "enterprise" means. So please, just leave already!
32. meanestgenius (Posts: 5086; Member since: 28 May 2014)
BlackBerry RULES the ENTERPRISE. Just stop being lazy and do the research YOURSELF, Wahywahoo. Everyone knows this, INCLUDING you, yet you continue to push your lies here. BBM has better features that WhatsCrap, WeChat and Line, and is more SECURE to boot. BlackBerry can survive on 10 million handsets sold a year because HANDSETS IS NOT all THEY DO. You'd do well to EDUCATE yourself on this.
36. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
BlackBerry so much "RULES" that RIM is even no more there! :D
Try to troll harder fanboy!
51. meanestgenius (Posts: 5086; Member since: 28 May 2014)
That was LAME.
Try harder TROLLboy.
9. x78_nothing (Posts: 53; Member since: 07 Feb 2013)
New video appear in youtube, the keyboard can be use as trackpad. Just wow..
14. jellmoo (Posts: 850; Member since: 31 Oct 2011)
Any chance of getting the Passport added to the size compare tool?
26. Rain017 (Posts: 45; Member since: 11 Jul 2014)
i don't know but i guess the charm of this phone lies to the "Best of Both Worlds" theme best keyboard and a unique touch screen than can be considered weird but at best (because of its proper 1:1 aspect) i just hope that they made it much rounder but surprisingly i love the looks of it the design the keyboard its nice to see blackberry starting to bite back! I'm getting tempted unique innovations better camera then i'll definitely grab that thing!!
33. meanestgenius (Posts: 5086; Member since: 28 May 2014)
This phone is amazing! It's going to be a hit in enterprise, and it will certainly sell well in the consumer market, if the interest in this phone is any indication. I look forward to its release!
37. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
In your words is nothing more just a fanboy's dreams and speculations...
39. WahyuWisnu (Posts: 1001; Member since: 29 May 2014)
meanestgenius think if he say something for bb, it will happened. He has magic words and magic brain. If he say it will be a hit in enterprise, and it will be a hit. If he say bb can survive on 10 million phone, it can survive. LOL. I think that's delusional.
40. ablopez (Posts: 196; Member since: 15 Apr 2014)
Um, you do the exact same thing. The difference is that MG is posting based on knowledge and experience. He's not delusional. Your obsession with Blackberry is making you delusional.
53. meanestgenius (Posts: 5086; Member since: 28 May 2014)
I KNOW you're delusional if you think that your constant trolling of BlackBerry articles will make any BlackBerry fan change their positive views about BlackBerry.
52. meanestgenius (Posts: 5086; Member since: 28 May 2014)
In your words it's just nothing but troll talk, Phoney...
42. apiskula (banned) (Posts: 578; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)
4-1-1 a total of 6 phones that they will sell. Get over it already
54. meanestgenius (Posts: 5086; Member since: 28 May 2014)
Get over your trolling of BlackBerry articles.
45. BobbyDigital (Posts: 1073; Member since: 29 May 2014)
PAUser, Wacky and Apisskula speak nothing but crap and nonsense. Never anything of value and substance. You guys never comment anywhere else. You just camp out on PA and wait for the next BlackBerry article to talk nonsense. The very definition of trolls. Either spit facts or shut up. But enough with your bullsh*t trolling already.
46. apiskula (banned) (Posts: 578; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)
Get over it. Nobody is going to buy this phone. It's a sinking ship and they are done
47. BobbyDigital (Posts: 1073; Member since: 29 May 2014)
The only thing done here is you and your tired, kiddy troll comments.
55. meanestgenius (Posts: 5086; Member since: 28 May 2014)
Still nothing better to do than troll BlackBerry articles, Apiskula? Smh...
56. apiskula (banned) (Posts: 578; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)
You do the same exact thing. Trying to get your nonsense across how Blackberry is doing well and the this phone will sell well in the enterprise market. Move onto another platform. Everyone knows Blackberry is going down hill quickly and will be bankrupt soon.
57. ablopez (Posts: 196; Member since: 15 Apr 2014)
How is it the exact same thing, apiskula? He has posted links and facts to back up his statements, but you have never done that. All you ever post is the same thing over and over and over again. Really, it's at the point where it's past annoying. I can only guess that you do this on purpose just to get on the nerves of those reading these articles. And that would be trolling.