Here is why HTC One does not support memory expansion
0. phoneArena 23 May 2013, 08:38 posted on
The HTC One is a spectacular piece of engineering - made out of a single aluminum block with that comfortable curve on the back it is both solid and elegant…
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6. tech2 (Posts: 2567; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
not really !.. GS4 managed to put a larger display, larger battery (removable) and with a MicroSD slot in a phone smaller than that of HTC One's !
11. polrt (banned) (Posts: 73; Member since: 04 Dec 2012)
They talk about real devices and not ugly plastic toys!
16. mafiaprinc3 (Posts: 367; Member since: 07 May 2012)
wether it's plastic or not, s4 is bigger screen smaller specifications,even if s3 was aluminum it would still be thinner and lighter.
htc just doesn't know how to utilize the space well or just too lazy to.
to add to that s4 even has a bigger battery 2600 vs htc 2300
39. polrt (banned) (Posts: 73; Member since: 04 Dec 2012)
And what about Optical Image Stabilizer(OIS)?
59. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)
Dual front facing speakers take space. Think before you speak next time.
75. Larry_ThaGr81 (Posts: 299; Member since: 26 May 2011)
I rather have the sd card slot and one speaker.
17. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
GS4 is not a plastic toy. We called it a smartphone, not a plastic toy, we use it, not dropping or smashing it because it is not a toy.
Every smartphones are not a plastic toy, they are SMARTPHONES! Try telling that to the Lumia 920 and let's see how your head gets smashed! Wanna try?
27. speckledapple (Posts: 879; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)
I personally might enjoy a little head smashing, at least watching.
33. joey_sfb (Posts: 3445; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
Look like tenths of millions of people prefer ugly plastic toys! over your perceive premium designed phone.
i like HTC one but would not buy one without a microSD slot.
For S4 one could pick up a cool aluminum case from many different designs.
53. user996 (Posts: 194; Member since: 25 Feb 2013)
and it becomes bigger and not thinner anymore
76. Larry_ThaGr81 (Posts: 299; Member since: 26 May 2011)
I'll take that plastic device that comes with a larger battery, sd expansion slot, removable battery, larger screen, etc before I buy another HTC device. I've own both the Thunderbolt and Rezound and they were both failures primarily because of the poor battery life. Now you HTC wants users to have poor battery life and no sd expansion slot. It's no wonder they aren't doing well in North America.
43. jonartpop (Posts: 162; Member since: 25 Oct 2012)
Agreed! If Samsung can do it, so can HTC. I admit HTC One is a great + beautiful phone but HTC has always the same problem to ruin the phone whether it's the battery/the microsd slot.
46. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
K900 has a micro sd with a 5.5" screen and its thinner than an iphone 5. HTC is lying.
47. roldefol (Posts: 3215; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
The added height and width required for a 5.5" phone allow more room for electronics. That's how Moto was able to make the 7 mm Razr. It had a huge bezel though.
Point being, it's not a fair comparison by any stretch.
52. chocolaking (Posts: 461; Member since: 22 May 2012)
If you think HTC is lying. then you should have know that samsung fakes everything. @dancer in the street
63. Atrixboyyy (Posts: 268; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)
HDShatter & Whateverman said it best and honestly if you believe the "its to small to accommodate the sd slot" then your an idiot because at the beginning of designing the device im sure the question arose of whether they wanted one or not...
69. Damo579 (Posts: 227; Member since: 18 May 2013)
True but possibly the front speakers take up a lot of space.
3. Whateverman (Posts: 3233; Member since: 17 May 2009)
The One is arguably the best phone on the market, but no expandable memory is worth the couple extra mm's in thickness. If OEM's could just forget about making the thinnest device on the market, and just give us the things we want, maybe HTC would have been at 10 million sold too. They're great with its current design, but I hope HTC will drop this crusade to end all expandable memory support.
18. mafiaprinc3 (Posts: 367; Member since: 07 May 2012)
dude s4 is 7.9 mm with 16/32/64 GB internal memory + micro sd card while the htc one is 9.3 mm thin with only 32/64 GB internal memory,whats your point!
30. Whateverman (Posts: 3233; Member since: 17 May 2009)
No what's their point? HTC says they didn't have room, not me. I say, if you don't have room, make the phone a little bigger. That's my point.
24. speckledapple (Posts: 879; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)
They wont and it provides another reason not to buy from them. This is on top of other reasons like lack of long term support for their devices which other companies do a comparably better job at. HTC has so many useless devices that it makes you wonder how they make the money to create them. I mean the HTC First?
25. lovefist (unregistered)
HTC will probably consider putting sd cards on their flagships when they're not on the game anymore.
10mil will be the max amount of htc one they will be able to sell, probably less. with s4 ads everywhere and also in my country where you can get the s4 for $100 less while the htc one aint getting any price cuts. you could bet people will be going for the S4.
26. roldefol (Posts: 3215; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
Does everyone really feel lack of expandable memory is such a dealbreaker? It certainly hasn't broken the iPhone's sales. 32 GB is plenty for the average buyer.
31. Whateverman (Posts: 3233; Member since: 17 May 2009)
I'm sure for the right phone, but when people are comparing against other phone at this level that has it, I think it hurts the One's chances a little.
34. roldefol (Posts: 3215; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
A little, sure. But suppose a customer goes in there comparing the iPhone 5, Lumia 92x, One, and S4. Three out of four have no SD slot. So it comes across as more of a plus for the S4 than a minus for the One.
60. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)
Websites like these are hardly the realm of average buyers.
62. roldefol (Posts: 3215; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
True, but that tends to be my response when I see the same sentiments repeated in the comments: Why can't it have a microSD? Why can't Nokia run Android? Why won't Samsung make metal phones? Why won't someone market a waterproof phone with a metal body, 5" FHD screen, 128 GB storage, a microSD slot, removable 3000 mAh battery and 16 MP camera that runs stock Android?
Simple: They don't make them for you. They make them for Average Buyers.
64. Atrixboyyy (Posts: 268; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)
average consumers run out of memory too .
66. roldefol (Posts: 3215; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
If it were a widespread problem though, the major players would have responded with more affordable, high capacity offerings. We're seeing 32 GB as the new standard for phone storage (One, Lumia 92x, Razr Maxx). Yes, there will be people who blow through that quickly, but they're probably still a minority.
77. Larry_ThaGr81 (Posts: 299; Member since: 26 May 2011)
Apple products never came with sd expansion slots, so Apple customers are already use to that, whereas HTC products initially had sd expansion slots.
As much as I hate crediting Apple with anything, HTC doesn't have the proven success with prior phones like Apple to market a phone without a sd expansion slot.
Lastly, you can never have too much space. For instance on my Note II sd card, I'm using 32GB of my 59GB total available space right now.
8. tech2 (Posts: 2567; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
That statement of yours is itself trolling !
Definetion of trolling: a troll is someone who posts off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers.
P.S.: Get a life !
15. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
trolls....go poop yourselves.....
10. dexter_jdr (Posts: 1163; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)
no. htc says western market will still buy their phone because they are blinded by beauty of the phone. so they say lets put microSd on chinese version for our marketing strategy.
19. lovefist (unregistered)
well apparently western market aint buying just by beauty alone.
they are not apple where they can get away with no sd card and removable battery. they are using android and they are catering to people who go with specs and removable thingies plus they have to compete with samsung which checks all of those boxes.. except the material used for build quality of course.
22. speckledapple (Posts: 879; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)
I would take a phone that checks off every single one of those boxes with a plastic outside than a phone that barely does with a unibody aluminum nonsense with no space.
14. _Bone_ (Posts: 2141; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
The HTC One does not have unibody design. It has a 3-component front panel (screen, 2 x speaker grill, see AA drop test video them falling off) and a back panel. The only difference between it and say the rival Android phone is that one has 2 less body components (a single front panel covered by GG3) and a clickable non-glued back panel. The Lumia 920 is unibody, the HTC One is not, so the design and size is no excuse to miss out on something smaller than your fingernail.
21. speckledapple (Posts: 879; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)
No it doesnt sound valid and provides yet more reasons why I will never purchase another HTC anything. They make too many compromises and try much to hard to be Apple.
28. roldefol (Posts: 3215; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
Nothing wrong with trying to steal Apple sales. Apple won't sell a bigger phone, so why not provide a good alternative? I feel that's the same reason TouchWiz mimics the iOS feel.
23. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1095; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
Good reason for the US only, in Europa LTE is (for now) moslty an urban legend, so they could have added the SD card reader at least, not even asking for the second SIM.
29. Diego! (Posts: 509; Member since: 15 Jun 2009)
WTF? LatinAmerica doesn't have LTE yet (only very few countries are testing it) and we get the international version too with no microSD support. That is a very vague answer from HTC!
32. rawbow (Posts: 428; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)
HTC One is a pretty amazing phone. I am currently using a note 2 and am really impressed with the overall package i.e, the HTC One. Cheers HTC and since cloud storage would probably gain some usage in the future, micro SD would become obsolete. But until then please think about the external storage. Non removable batteries i can live with that.
35. rsiders (Posts: 331; Member since: 17 Nov 2011)
So I guess we need smaller radios here in the states? But for once, I can at least feel comforted with a response. This seems legit. And I'm still looking for a better answer from Nokia as to why the Lumia 925 for T-Mobile USA only gets 16gb. They have presented a comforting reason yet.
36. roldefol (Posts: 3215; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
Hasn't Google been trying to eliminate SD cards for app storage purposes since the Nexus S? We're fighting over something Google doesn't even want in the pure Google experience. We've just been spoiled by expandable/removeable storage in the past and are set in our ways. I'm not pushing for cloud storage over internal, but if they can put 32-64 GB in every flagship, I don't see the lack of microSD as much of a detriment.
37. Whateverman (Posts: 3233; Member since: 17 May 2009)
When my wife got her HTC One, I put the HTC transfer app on old and new phones to transfer all of her media. Was there any hiccups, yeah there were a couple. But I'd say 98% of her stuff was transferred over, not bad at all. I think a few pictures and ringtones were missing, but no big deal. And like most people, there is no way she's gonna use 32GBs of storage. So in reality, the lack of sd expansion shouldn't be an issue. But when you consider senarios where you can't retrieve those photos from the device (like if the phone can't power on, has water damage, no data connects or won't "mount" to the computer) its easy to see why some people prefer having it just in case. And although cloud computing and storage is nothing new to us, the general consumer may not be as comfortable with it just yet.
38. roldefol (Posts: 3215; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
I thought the inability to just pop out the SD card and stick in the laptop to transfer photos would bother me more, but really you get used to transfer over USB. I have the option to remove the SD card from my phone, but HTC put it under the battery, so it's more of a pain for me to remove it than to just plug the phone in. So my phone effectively has 16+16GB internal storage anyhow.
40. _PHug_ (Posts: 399; Member since: 11 Oct 2011)
It's just an excuse.
Compared to the S4 the HTC One is a joke and the only reason to buy it over the superior S4 is if you have some silly vendetta against Samsung.
The truth hurts
44. roldefol (Posts: 3215; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
Sure, I've got a vendetta. How about the last Samsung I bought, everything that could possibly affect its ability to function as a phone broke? First the bluetooth antenna, then the earpiece, then the main antenna. But you're right, those are silly reasons to dislike the company. The biggest, best-selling phone is clearly the only option.
57. rawbow (Posts: 428; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)
m sure a silly "vendetta" wouldn't be the controlling factor of HTC sales...lol you can copy paste your statement with iPhone instead of s4/Samsung and sammy instead of HTC,,,and BAM! you are in 2011 forum battles.. HTC One is an experience in itself ...you gotta hold it to get to know it
P.S. Note 2 rules \m/
41. gd761 (Posts: 110; Member since: 18 Sep 2012)
With the Advancements of Everything that We the Customers Can Do and Access, We Need More Storage than What the Manufacturers are Currently putting in a LOT of their Phones.
Some of the Phones are coming out with 8GB, 16GB, 32GB, or 64GB. The More Storage that they have for Us Customers to be able to actually use, the better it is for Us.
But the Manufacturers Don't List the ACTUAL USEABLE STORAGE, EVER in their Advertising for ANY Phones. The OS takes up some of the Storage Space and the Manufacturers also set aside on some other Phones, Space that the Carriers can Install their own Carrier Software/Crapware which also takes away from the Usable Storage for Us Customers.
What Should Have Been Done and What Should Be Done from here on out, Design the Phones Both With More Storage and a Micro SDXC Card Slot. Also, LIST THE ACTUAL USABLE STORAGE THAT WE CAN ACCESS AND USE!!!! DON'T JUST LIST THE SIZE OF THE STORAGE THAT THE PHONE HAS, BECAUSE THAT'S MISLEADING!!!!
If and When ALL of YOU MANUFACTURERS FOLLOW THIS PRACTICE, THEN THE CUSTOMERS MIGHT HAVE MORE RESPECT FOR YOU AND BUY YOUR PHONES RELIGIOUSLY TIME AND TIME AGAIN!!!!!!
Here's one Example; HTC will be Building a so called Mid-End Phone "HTC Tiara" for Sprint with Windows Phone 8 and the phone has been said to have 8GB of Storage. With Windows Phone 8 OS Installed on the 8GB Phone, How Little Storage is left for the Customer? 5GB? 4GB? Or Less?
Any and Every Smartphone should in these days, Start out with a Low-End / Budget phone having 32GB of Storage, and the Mid-End Phones have a Bare Minimum after the OS is installed, 32GB of Storage. And then the High-End Phones. The High-End Phones should have a Bare Minimum After the OS is Installed, 64GB of Storage. And with ALL of the Low, Mid, and High-End phones, They ALL MUST HAVE A MICRO SDXC CARD SLOT!!!
45. roldefol (Posts: 3215; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
You should check out this site then. It has everything you need.
78. Larry_ThaGr81 (Posts: 299; Member since: 26 May 2011)
I'd like to see a law that mandates that minimum "internal user" space available for smartphones and tablets must be at least 16GB. The law would have to specify internal user space because manufacturers can simply slap a 8GB sd card in to make up for the lack of user space that available internally.
42. sswain (Posts: 50; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
Not having SD card and without removable battery is deal braker for me.
Currently I have GSN2 and very happy with it. 16GB internal + 64GB microSD card. And still not enough storage for me. I would buy 128, 256GB microSD, but they dont exist yet. All my space is filled with music and few HD movies.
Only reason whats unique in HTC One is those funky stereo frontfacing speakers with stereo sound. Wish Samsung would include something similar in upcoming GSN3, but I doubt that will ever happen.
61. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)
Hold on I'm confused here.
You're doubting Samsung would steal signature design features from competing company?
48. gd761 (Posts: 110; Member since: 18 Sep 2012)
I Want and Need More Storage Both On the Phone and with a Storage Card.
A Big thing now that Is Being Touted, is "THE CLOUD". My Opinion of the Cloud is just So-So.
You can NOT ACCESS ANYTHING AT ALL FROM THE CLOUD IF AND WHEN YOU HAVE NO CELL SIGNAL OR WIFI SIGNAL!!!!
If you Have More Storage Both On the Phone and with a Storage Card, then you can Store your stuff there and NOT have to Worry about the Cell or WiFi Signals at all when you either Want or Need to Access the Data or Files that you have Stored on the Phone and or Storage Card.
There have Been Many times when I was able to Access the Files and Watch Videos on My HTC ARRIVE Cellphone and other people who were on the subway were looking at me to check out My Phone, Because They Had NO SIGNAL and were very limited as to what they could do with their Cell phones.
My HTC ARRIVE Was Upgraded by it having the 16GB Micro SD Class 4 Card taken out and a 64GB Micro SDXC Card put into My HTC Arrive.
With a Bunch of Photos, Files, MP3's, and Videos and the whole Bunch of Programs I have All On My Phone, I Have 59.25GB of Storage After the Card is Formatted and with Everything I Have Installed there is left over right now, 53.63GB left over.
If and When I Upgrade My Sprint Windows Phone 7.5 HTC Arrive to Any New Windows Phone 8 Phone, it Definitely can NOT be the HTC Tiara that Only has 8GB of Storage. I would Run Out of Space on Just the Very First Day of Owning that Phone.
So you can Guess what Sprint Windows Phone 8 Phone I will NOT be getting EVER! The HTC Tiara that also don't have Any Expandable Storage either. What an EPIC FAIL Both HTC for Designing the Tiara and SPRINT for Requesting it from HTC.
50. roldefol (Posts: 3215; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
I feel you, bro. Check out this professional review of the situation.