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Here is why Android is laggy and why it’s going to remain like that in the near future

0. phoneArena 07 Dec 2011, 03:38 posted on

Have you noticed that Android is laggy? It is. We hoped things would change with dual-core processors and when we got the LG Optimus 2X in our trembling hands, the first phone running…

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posted on 07 Dec 2011, 20:55

146. remixfa (Posts: 14327; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


yes.. we always need more power!!! :)

yes, our phones are becoming very laptop like. But the are not in the same league. our photoshops and our mobile offices are great for very basic things... and for the most part all we do is basic things, but they are a long way from full functionality. Dont get me wrong, im not dissing cell phone power, as its come a long way in a very short time.. but it still has a good while to go before it becomes PC power. Thats all.

posted on 07 Dec 2011, 21:55

165. hepresearch (unregistered)


Well, thats funny... I just read (oooh... what a concept... actually READING...) your comment to Sniggly where you chided him for arguing against the case laid out by a SENIOR PROGRAMMER AT GOOGLE! Well, WOW, so in that post you tell Sniggly he has no grounds to ARGUE against, and is dumber than, the Senior Programmer, and then in this post you contradict the Senior Programmer and call the Fandroids dumb and thoughtless for AGREEING with him! Well, I guess you are living in the iWorld where you can have your cake and eat it too! Fandroid agrees with Senior Programmer = dumb and thoughtless. Fandroid argues against Senior Programmer = dumb and thoughtless. HA! I am thinking of a word... it starts with an 'h' and ends with a 'y'... 9 letters... I'll give you three guesses...

posted on 07 Dec 2011, 22:47

172. ilia1986 (unregistered)


I dunno man. I have a 3 year old laptop with Core 2 Duo 2 Ghz, 3GB of Ram, and a GeForce 9300M GS with 256MB. It's got the specs of a midrange 2006 PC. And yet everything runs quite fine on it. Office, photoshop, whatever. Hell, I'm even playing MW3 on it lol. Sure, if I had a core i7 sandy bridge, 8 gigs of Ram, and a GeForce 590GT I'td be faster - but not that much noticeably faster.

More power is good - but aside from gaming - it's not really needed much. Sure, smartphone power may not be PC power - but again - for anything but hardcore gaming - you don't really need *much* more than what you got now.

posted on 08 Dec 2011, 07:15

201. remixfa (Posts: 14327; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


ilia,

try to run skyrim at ultra resolution on that PC.

you cant.

More power is always a good thing :). Just because we dont always see a need for it at the time, doesnt mean there wont always be a lack of a need. First you must create the tools to create the artwork. Michelangelo couldnt have painted the Sistine chapel without his brushes.. what if someone thought we didnt need brushes because our fingers worked well enough. they created the tools long before he created the chapel.

posted on 08 Dec 2011, 12:55 1

238. TalkingTechy (Posts: 97; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)


Is the word "hairspray?" I bet it's "hairspray."

posted on 07 Dec 2011, 07:20 2

47. maxican16 (Posts: 364; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)


Love how Victor H takes a FORMERLY employed INTERN'S article as gospel. The guy works for Microsoft now. Nope, don't see any conflict of interest there... Wow.

posted on 07 Dec 2011, 07:31

48. anirudhshirsat97 (Posts: 408; Member since: 24 May 2011)


I have experienced somekind of a lag on every android phone and tablet I have used except for the Sgs2... Speaks volumes of Samsung ability to make a Good Phone.
Oh ya.. No lag on the galaxy note as well..

posted on 07 Dec 2011, 07:59

51. snowgator (Posts: 3602; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)


Lag is not a problem. Yes I noticed it on the vast majority of Androids I have tried, but really I think the word "lag" has been overused. Hesitation is a better word. As any top end Android tries to move from one priority to another, there is that nano-second where it will collect it's thoughts. Does this truly mean lag? When I think of lag, I think of points where the programs seem to almost stop, dragging the UI experiences down to a near halt. Yes, this definition of lag does happen on Android more than any other OS (except Blackberry), so DON"T BUY THAT ANDROID!! On Verizon the top Motorolas do not lag. The Galaxy S2 series (I have never used the T-Mobile version) does not lag. I have noticed lag on a few Android HTC's, but if you love Sense that may be the trade off. Hesitation is not going to slow down your day. You just can't expect to walk in a store and have all Android experiences be the same. There is just too much difference in hardware and UI designs.

posted on 07 Dec 2011, 14:16

94. p0rkguy (Posts: 685; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)


As much as I'd like to agree with you, you just defined "lag" with your definition of hesitation. The real definition for lag is for latency but after 15 years of using that term for something thats slow/choppy, it kind of applies to all. People won't say iOS lags because their UI is nearly perfect in running one process at a time. All computers lag, it's just a matter of noticing it or not.

posted on 07 Dec 2011, 15:39

102. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


Another excuse from an android fanboy, hahahaha. Let me point out more excuses :)

posted on 07 Dec 2011, 22:31 1

170. hepresearch (unregistered)


Aha! Here we have found the elusive wild gemini in their natural habitat... they have just seen a rational argument, and now the fight-or-flight response kicks in! This one decides to run away quickly, but still manages to leave a dung pile in the path of the rationality...

posted on 08 Dec 2011, 07:14

200. p0rkguy (Posts: 685; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)


When you reach to a higher intellectual level on technology and get off that piece of s**t iPhone, start speaking. Steve Jobs captured the hearts of those who don't know a thing about technology. There's a reason why you didn't (probably still don't) know anything about technology before your beloved iPhone came out. Ignorance would be your excuse.

posted on 07 Dec 2011, 08:00

52. droiddomination (Posts: 203; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)


my atrix is lagless as well. i guess this fanboy is still beating a dead horse with his 2007 anitquated iturd. anyways, more proof that android is dominating the smart phone field. the more someone attacks you, the more they are afraid of you or your product! WORD!

posted on 07 Dec 2011, 08:01

53. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


On the RAZR, I have not noticed lag in game playing, but, I suppose once in a while it takes a couple of more seconds to start a app. Most of the time, that is attributed to how it was coded.
iOS has some lag also, but, again it is hardly noticeable on the 3GS and 4, and it seems to be non-existent on the 4S. What is considered lag?

posted on 07 Dec 2011, 15:41

103. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


And yet another excuse from another android fanboy, hahahahaha. This is so much fun. You guys are very creative :)

posted on 07 Dec 2011, 22:37 3

171. hepresearch (unregistered)


What is this? A statement of experience admitting to the lag, and acknowledging that iOS also has a little lag, but not near as much as Android? Daaahhh! It can't be true! What is considered lag? I don't care, he said iOS actually DOES have lag! Sacrilege!

Am I convincing enough for you, gemini?

All hail iOS, the Chosen One World OS Solution!

How about now? Was my satirical tirade creative enough for you, gemini?

posted on 08 Dec 2011, 12:58

241. TalkingTechy (Posts: 97; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)


Lol, hepresearch!!

I have to search deep in these comments to find your gems, but it's well worth the hunt!

posted on 08 Dec 2011, 23:34

305. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


Wow, Gemini is going rabid on us. I actually have experience from both OSes - my experience comes from the wife's experience for Apple and the other OSes - win6.5 and Android - are mine.
She tells me the worst thing about the phone is Siri, and is not a big deal, and the worst app on the phone is Facebook, which is a facebook issue.
My RAZR, at 1c, is every bit as good as her phone, and really has no lag. Apps are created by developers and are not always perfect, on either OS.

posted on 07 Dec 2011, 08:45

67. bloodline (Posts: 706; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)


I can honestly tell you now there is no lag on my galaxy nexus, everything performs effortlessly.

I have noticed some scrolling lag when I used a live wall paper tho. other than that the galaxy nexus works perfectly and ICS is brilliant

posted on 07 Dec 2011, 09:53

74. bluechrism (Posts: 99; Member since: 09 Sep 2011)


No mention of Windows Phone 7 - for mmy money the smoothest UI experience out there and i've never seen it lag, even on the HTC HD2 hardware.

posted on 07 Dec 2011, 10:05

75. ananthonline (Posts: 5; Member since: 09 Sep 2011)


At the author of the article. A great many operating systems render their UI on the main thread and are still "buttery-smooth". This is because the applications use a background thread to do all their processor/IO intensive tasks.

This is, indeed the philosophy that Microsoft has chosen with WP7, along with some very nifty language enhancements to C# (await) that make this very easy to do for the developers.

It would not be impossible or even hard for Android to enforce such rules and release toolkits that make it easy for people to do this, so the "flat" statement you make that Android will remain laggy is quite unjustified.

posted on 07 Dec 2011, 10:09 4

76. hepresearch (unregistered)


Android: Function is optimized, appearance is not. Occasionally, you try to do too much at once, and the functions overload the OS; you get a forced close.

iOS: Appearance is optimized, function is... well... haha... ha! The phone will (almost) never experience a forced close because it is not capable of handling enough functions to cause such a situation... not because it has endless ability to handle functions, but because it is intentionally crippled to not take on more functions than it is known to be able to handle easily.

Yes, the Androids do tend to lag... yes, the iPhones are smooth and stable in comparison. However, the iPhone will never have to endure as much work as an Android may be subjected to by its user and installed running background programs. If you are intelligent and enterprising, and want a real workhorse, Android is the way to go. If you want something that is simple, smooth, and thought/worry-free, go with an iPhone. As for WP7, I am not sure yet... it seems to behave more like iOS, but with some extra out-of-the-box capability that iOS does not have. I am not sure how WP7 will truly turn out to be, yet.

posted on 07 Dec 2011, 10:42 1

81. SlimSoulja86 (Posts: 660; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)


Thumbs up!

posted on 07 Dec 2011, 14:37

99. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


Ummmm, how many functions do you need to run in the background if I may ask? Just curious.

Like right now for instance. I am using my ipad to post this comment. What and how many functions do I need to run in the background so that it would be a capable device? Btw, music is also playing on my ipad while I'm typing this comment. And there's no lag.

posted on 07 Dec 2011, 17:38

115. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


Well I just stoped to check on coments and rest from writing my letter when I get back to it its gonna be there. But im also uploading pics to fb they show the progress in my notification bar so i see when its ready. Oh wait I just got a call and came back without having to wait for the browser to load. Oh look there is a new update for G+ its already downloading on my phone. And my notification tells me my new photos arealready uploaded to my google account. And the best the only thing i had to tell my phone to do was upload a pic to facebook

posted on 07 Dec 2011, 19:32 1

122. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


Clearly your simpleton brain can only handle one thing at a time.

I'm sorry.

We aren't all as dumb as you. Get over it.

posted on 07 Dec 2011, 19:47

123. hepresearch (unregistered)


ummm... more than you can count, apparently. You may not realize it, but your iDevice runs only a few functions at a time. You can do the basics... play a little music, surf the web, text message, take a call... maybe a half-dozen operations or so at any given moment. Android, on the other hand, does everything all at once with fairly equal priority, including the automatic updates and preset background tasks, as well as running the virtual engine of the OS... all at the same time... and we are talking about... oh... I am not so sure you can count this high... okay, 40 to 60 operations at any given moment. Granted, your iDevice looks real smooth in the process (it is true...), but it is providing huge chunks of limited high-priority processing power to the same operation that, on Android, is occupying a much smaller sliver of up to twice the total processing power, and at normal priority on top of that. For doing so much, Android does not look half as bad as it could.

Bottom line: if I took an iPhone 4S today, and somehow managed to run Android Gingerbread or ICS on it with the existing processor, it would indeed look horrible and force-close all over the place. However, if I took a Galaxy S II today, and decided to port iOS 5.0.x to it with its existing processor, it would run smoother than smooth... and then Apple would sue me for running iOS on a non-iPhone smartphone that actually has a flat front screen that is surrounded by a narrow black panel and a thin bezel!

posted on 07 Dec 2011, 19:52 1

125. hepresearch (unregistered)


... all sorts of automatic stuff, just like I said. You only had to manually start one process in that whole list.

The only thing the iPhone does automatically is track your location info at all times, and store it on Apple servers for other people to find later. Even BlackBerry can do that! The Android does that too, and much more automagical stuff!

posted on 07 Dec 2011, 20:07

130. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@proto. All of that the iphone does with less battery consumption. I could be in the middle of writing this comment, switch to another app, and when I go back to the browser, it takes me back where I left off. What? You need a progress bar to upload a photo on FB? With my iphone, it's instantaneous when you upload a pic, but yes, there's also a progress bar. I can also be web browsing and get a call and my iphone will take me back exactly where I left off when the call came in. No reloading, so u are wrong in implying that the iphone needs to reload the page. You obviously have not used an iphone if you are saying that the iphone does not notify users if a new message came in on FB. What? You need to wait for notification when you post a photo on FB? Is android that slow? Hahahaha. With the iphone, you touch upload pic, and the pictures load instantly :)

posted on 07 Dec 2011, 20:11

131. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


No iamcc. Clearly I am clinically educated as to how the human brain works and you are not. Neurology 101 baby. The brain cannot multitask. You think that it can, but it can't. But of course fandroids are from a different planet, so I can't speak for your anatomy :)

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