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Here is how fast mobile and the web are destroying the Windows monopoly

0. phoneArena 17 Jul 2013, 08:24 posted on

Just four years ago, the computing landscape looked drastically different. Apple was just taking off, but it was still a rarity to see an iPhone…

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posted on 17 Jul 2013, 08:27

1. wendygarett (unregistered)

Keywords, apps :)

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 08:34 15

3. apple4never (Posts: 1064; Member since: 08 May 2013)

aint nobody got time for dat...

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 08:39 13

4. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)

never used a PC before right Apps are for moblie platform limited power thingies , PC and Desktop uses way more powerful softwares which are countless at the moment way over the combined number of Android and IOS apps so dont be fool and tell us this is the reason.
what should we say is the the portability of moblies and restrictions of MS has lead to this graph

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 08:49 5

10. wendygarett (unregistered)

The title seems to be misleading, from the graph shown, pc is still show some growth if you ask me, can't say the Windows doomed...

right Victor h?

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 08:56 3

13. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)

So you want Victor to change the title? Victor ain't got time for dat...

posted on 18 Jul 2013, 00:06

53. puckhead (Posts: 81; Member since: 13 Jan 2013)

you're not reading it correct, and don't take that as an insult the graphs are somewhat confusing

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 09:00

16. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)

Give it another a year or 2, then we will see A57 Cpu with 18 or 14 mm.
Then mobile devices will be having 4 or 6 Gb Ram
PowerVr Rouge Gpu
Mali T648 or maybe there T7 series.
They will be on par with iNtel i5

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 09:10 1

22. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

Until a mobile chipset can run the x86 code set un-modified, Windows will continue to struggle to get market share. MS has been talking about code portability for what - 3 years, now? The only Windows apps that have moved to WP/RT are those specifically written for WP/RT.

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 11:00 2

35. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)

err year and PC technology will stay right here yeah nice try foolKING Desktop is powerhouse of everything even whatever you do on moblies without them moblies cant even have a OS so stop fooling ur self and hoping it dies. because if that happens before anything similar or better comes out u wont get a thing good eough for your phones . i am a android developer and yes Windows platform is used is used to develop more then 50% of android apps so stop kiling ur own hopes.
and i dont think moblies can ever reach the power of PC. can u explain how 500W demanding desktops can be competed with moblies using merly less then 10watts
you can increase your phone ram to 100GB and 24 cores but still the desktop have mush mush more power. i dont know why you android retards thinnk moblies can compete desktop in power spec sheet is BS ever seen a processors or desktop and moblie side by side

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 11:19 2

36. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)

let talk about desktop tech now you got no idea what this side of plannet has in pocket
RAM support going beyond 64GB of ram
HD support in terabytes all you want

CPU i7 are quadcores with even 3.8Ghz with 32mb of cache these days and damn its crossing 4ghz in overclock modes.

PowerVr Rouge Gpu u really hope for beating desktop GPU power house well here it gets intersting Mr.Ignorant the most extreme GPUs in desktop are quad cores with upto 8GB of RAM and surprise we can stack 3+ GPU cards in parallel with SLI or cross-Fire totall ram is added btw

and 3500mah is ur sgs4 battery size or around that yes for this kind of extreme desktop about 800watt powersupply is added.

so which part of ur mobloe technology is coming close in next 2 years lets hear your stupid reply now please for now the spec sheet tells that desktop of 2004 is superior to todays fastest moblies
next time dont compare whats not comparable retard go play mario brothers on SGS4 if it doesnt lag cuz you aint playing Crysis3 or Last of Us(Console Title) on ur cute little SGS4 anyway and these are 2 marvels that reached the graphics quality beyond anything we ever saw in gaming world

posted on 18 Jul 2013, 06:08

56. yahoo29 (Posts: 71; Member since: 15 Sep 2012)

I think only in i3 gen.2

posted on 18 Jul 2013, 00:10 1

54. puckhead (Posts: 81; Member since: 13 Jan 2013)

exactly, portable touch screen computers in the form of a phone and tablet are more fun and convenient to use. nonetheless desktops will never go completely away for common sense reason I don't need to state

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 08:53

12. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

Meh. MS has apps, the problem is more about Android getting to critical mass before MS realized they had a problem. There was an opportunity for a second player (alternative?) to Apple in the smartphone space, and Android moved right in and ultimately eclipsed Apple.

MS has a reputation for not moving quickly. This time, it bit them. MS is still trying to find a compelling value proposition. MS being third in the smartphone space s more about BB/RIM cratering than any brilliance on MS part.

posted on 18 Jul 2013, 10:36

57. ihatesmartphone (unregistered)

Lack of competition in the desktop segment, Microsoft being an old dinosaur held the world hostage to old obsolete technologies, as it was repulsive to any innovation in the desktop. You can't pick a single revolutionary innovation in the desktop computing in the last 2 decades. I consider Windows XP - Windows 8 era to be dark ages for innovation in the desktop PC segment. Beyond new hardware requirement (which was mostly more RAM) Microsoft never introduced any ground breaking innovation in the desktop segment.

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 08:29

2. alpinejason (Posts: 262; Member since: 06 Sep 2011)

Better get off your lazy ass and figure out a mobile strategy

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 21:11

52. phil2n (Posts: 487; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)

In Percentage it is declining yet the shipments is inclining. If smartphone does not exist then the total shipment will might be the same or might be up a bit..

I totally don't agree with the title..

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 08:40 7

5. eisenbricher (Posts: 973; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)

Let the full Windows arrive to mobile platform and let's see what happens. Desparately waiting for that to happen...

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 08:48

8. Dastrix (unregistered)

Is it Windows Blue?

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 08:56 3

14. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

Not going to happen until Intel makes a chipset that runs x86 code base on a mobile device. Win RT is a complete FAIL.

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 09:09 3

21. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)

Dude they had issues with revs adopting x64... If you expect all your desktop apps to work on a mobile devices without any compromise then you are daydreaming

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 10:48 1

33. jove39 (Posts: 1859; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)

Full windows already running on mobile platform...ever heard of Acer W3?

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 11:33 2

38. akki20892 (Posts: 3901; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)


still windows is windows u can't live without Computers.........!!!

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 08:46 10

6. SonyXperiaNexus (Posts: 374; Member since: 01 Oct 2012)

usually every household has 1 or 2 PCs while everyone in the family has a phone, so obviously they are gonna outnumber windows PCs. But you cannot REPLACE windows PCs with mobile and hence they wont die.

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 09:03

19. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

But the market growth in mobile is running away from the desktop. People are not upgrading from Win 7 to Win 8. Conversely, manufacturers are getting hammered if they delay releasing the latest Android upgrade for their mobile device. Consumers are increasingly moving to a mobile-centric focus.

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 11:23 2

37. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)

if desktop dies so will moblie platform since all the apps are written on desktop :P

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 20:07

51. lonestrider (Posts: 88; Member since: 31 Mar 2012)

That's it! I'm waiting the time when we can code in a Tablet!
When RT shows up, its really looks like 'Windows in a tablet' and I thought I can code in there. Unfortunately, not... Really disappointing.
But I believe one day it will happen. :D

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 10:50

34. jove39 (Posts: 1859; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)

And 1 pc people have in home...is from 2010...thats when pc sales started to drop!!!

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 08:48 5

7. dickwyn (Posts: 621; Member since: 07 May 2012)

but nevertheless the PC is here to stay no matter how the mobile world is looking. Nothing can replace the productivity of a windows/mac

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 09:15 2

24. pellegrini (Posts: 84; Member since: 14 Jun 2012)

Today not everybody needs a PC.
I once heard a very interesting argument about the PCxTablet.
Today, the first is the best to produce "content" but Tablets are way better to consume it.
Sure that tablet's apps have their limitations, even the OS isn't very multi-task for the user yet (Just try to watch a movie in youtube app from android, pause it to read an e-mail and go back, you will need to buffer the video again.). But as the tech evolves, the mobile OS will and these issues will be address too. In the end only people that really demand a high productivity will buy a PC.

posted on 19 Jul 2013, 18:33

58. ncarlosmiguel (Posts: 206; Member since: 14 May 2013)

Well said. In the past years, people who only want internet and multimedia buys PC because there is no other choice.

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 08:49 3

9. scriptwriter (Posts: 396; Member since: 13 Nov 2012)

I used to love Windows Mobile before it changed to Windows Phone. It was litteraly like having a pocket sized pc in your pocket with UI not that much different from the desktop version. As soon as Windows Phone 7 came out, i went off them. Theres very little in the way of customization apart from changing the colours of some UI textures. If they were to take it back to the old UI and make it look like windows 7 or windows 8 without the stupid start screen, then i may go back to Windows Phone. For time being, Im still over the moon with Android.

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 12:18

46. TA700 (Posts: 78; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)

Same here, had MS continued with WM, I would probably not have gone Android. Android still do not have full screen handwriting recognition, IR port seem new to android but was there long ago on WM.
The biggest problem back then was mainly due to the much weaker CPU & graphics

It makes me sick that somehow MS thinks everyone wants an apple, Windows phone went that way, now Windows 8 (the Metro part) is halfway there as well.

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 12:32

47. TA700 (Posts: 78; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)

Got to add that I don't detest Metro, it's great on a tablet but not what I want on the desktop.
It just look to me had RT been a success, MS will sooner or later drop the 'desktop' part.

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 08:51

11. Edmund (Posts: 656; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)

Really??? I just purchsed a spanking new Desktop processor and Motherboard the other day. It would be extremely amusing to watch the author run an E-commerce business or even develop a simple application with an android smartphone or tablet.
Question - Does car ownership have an adverse effect on the number of people commuting to and from work using the rail system ?? I doubt it. Infact, you would find the reverse is actually happening, especially in densly populated cities like New York, London, where car ownership is too expensive.

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 08:59 2

15. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

Well, to continue your analogy, the majority of the world population doesn't live in places like New York and London. The Android community serves the people who don't need to be tied to a desktop PC.

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 09:58

28. pellegrini (Posts: 84; Member since: 14 Jun 2012)

Don't get me wrong, but not everyone need to run a e-commerce and if you do, you don't need windows for that. I'm working for the biggest telecommunication company of my country and they doesn't use windows in their servers. Anyway, I understand what you are saying, It's really hard "today" to do our work using a tablet.

But the author is saying that the monopoly that MS had on the past no longer exists. Average people don't need a high-performace PC at their homes.

Today android has a big market share. It is evolving really fast, you can run it on phones, tablets, cameras, micro-pc (the little usb that you can plug on the tv), media servers and so many other devices that we don't even know about. So if we wait, soon or later it will start to run on PC too, once they enhance the user experience to properly multi-taks, developers will be able to make better apps for it.

So in the future windows's pc might be the minority or even die.

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 09:01 1

17. Kelley71 (Posts: 72; Member since: 26 Nov 2012)

I think the point is in the process of being missed--it's not MS Windows, or Microsoft itself, that is being destroyed; it's the Microsoft defacto Monopoly.

Truly, if you want the smoking gun, it's DirectX. 10 years ago DirectX was the defacto standard for animated graphics--but being Windows proprietary, DirectX doesn't run on OSX, Linux (including Android), BSD or the like (WINE and Darwin nonwithstanding; both struggle with Beta quality). But due to the rise of Android, iOS and OSX's market shares and userbases, OpenGL, SDK and the like are rising in popularity. Likewise, Visual Basic is folding into C# and Java.

Windows Phone and its lack of uptake is just a symptom of Redmond's decline. It's not that Windows is going away--just its reputation as the only serious option across the board. Platform agnosticism is replacing the longstanding assumption of a Microsoft license as the "safe route."

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 09:06

20. ihatesmartphone (unregistered)

Monopoly is bad.
That's what happen to MS!

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 09:12 2

23. Kelley71 (Posts: 72; Member since: 26 Nov 2012)

I began kicking Microsoft off my personal isle in 2007, and finished in 2010 (waiting for the Epic to be released to replace a never-quite-right Touch Pro); whilst tears might be shed for Redmond, none will be mine.

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 10:10 1

29. joey_sfb (Posts: 5754; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)

In complete agreement. They have a long history of overcharging. Operating system, office suite, Xbox 360 accessories.

Bye Microsoft! You wouldn't be missed.

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 09:03 1

18. dickwyn (Posts: 621; Member since: 07 May 2012)

Its a fact that there is just more smartphones than PCs now

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 09:42

25. livyatan (Posts: 867; Member since: 19 Jun 2013)

I don't get the first graph.. looks as if tablets have more shipments than smartphones

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 09:44

26. zombiewolf115 (Posts: 38; Member since: 16 Jul 2013)

of course in a house hold of idk 5 every1 is going to have a phone. but not every1 is going to have their own computer.

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 09:56

27. ilia1986 (unregistered)

I am sorry but no. Even High end Android tablets cannot provide the same desktop experience as a Windows 7 PC. I am not even talking about the iToys.

Yes, mobile apps are a good substitute for the web when available.. but the key words are 'when available'.

To this day a great many websites have hover menus, small buttons, scroll bars and other UI elements using which is ill-advised on a pure touchscreen device.

Sadly the direction in which Microsoft has chosen to go (focus on shiny oversized live tiles and curated apps instead of further enhancing the desktop experience - something that it has been doing until 2012 - and - a fact which infuriates me greatly - despite something that it's main rival - Apple - has been doing - and still does until now) - leaves only Linux as a the sole contender for providing a viable future for such seemingly 'low tech' devices such as a PC mouse and a full sized stand alone keyboard.

In short: All these tablets, smartphones, hybrids, Windows 8 RT, whatever CANNOT as of yet replace a standard 5 year old PC running Windows 7.

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 10:29 1

30. sherby (Posts: 7; Member since: 21 Jun 2013)

The biggest mistake Microsoft made is deciding the windows strategy no longer worked. Just look at Android Microsoft........

You remember when windows phone 7 originally launched and they decided a 'premium' only strategy was a good idea? Fast forward a few years..... best selling windows phone device=lumia 5xx..........

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 10:37

31. sats.mine2k4 (banned) (Posts: 208; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)

Based on Slide 2
Android is killing Windows and
Apple is killing Blackberry

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 10:41

32. jove39 (Posts: 1859; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)

Windows platform won't die...but shrink to certain level...only power users will use windows...rest will move to Android or iOS...I wonder if in next 5 years windows share will be down to 10%

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 11:38

39. jaytai0106 (Posts: 1888; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)

Sometime I really wonder if the PA writers ever think about what are all the factors going into those numbers and graph.
From the 1st graph, it shows the steady growth of the PC sales until about 2011 it goes down a bit. This shows majority of people realized they can connect to the web without using a PC finally, so there isn't a need to replace their current PC. They can keep the old PC a bit longer for heavier task when they need it.
From the 2nd graph shows, the growth of smartphone sale shrinks the percentage of the PC sale by comparison.
The bottom line, the sales of PC will decrease as years come because the basic task on the internet can simply be done on the smartphone. However, PC will never be replaced by smartphone in any near future. The need for PC is still large either is for work or personal usage. Until there is a way for Google to come out with a OS for desktop to be compatible with all current software runs on Window, we will be seeing Window around for a while.

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 11:43 1

40. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)

When I'm at home I use my Windows pc. When I'm out I use my android phone. I hardly use my phone 24hrs like some addicts. Even though I hate Windows 8.

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 11:43

41. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)

When I'm at home I use my Windows pc. When I'm out I use my android phone. I hardly use my phone 24hrs like some addicts. Even though I hate Windows 8.

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 11:43

42. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)

When I'm at home I use my Windows pc. When I'm out I use my android phone. I hardly use my phone 24hrs like some addicts. Even though I hate Windows 8.

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 11:51

43. DontHateOnS60 (Posts: 867; Member since: 20 Apr 2009)

Somebody forgot to include the Windows 8 launch date on that last chart.

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 12:01

44. snowgator (Posts: 3586; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)

I agree with @kelly71, comment 17. Sometimes, passions over ride common sense when looking at patterns and sales graphs. The PC has not declined in usage- it has declined in updating/replacement. The rise of Android and Apple in the mobile markets enable basic tasks to be done wherever service allows. As a result, PC's are still vital to life in business and extended home needs, but not required at all times. Nor is the need to be tethered to a desk top the beat all and all. That has ended the PC dominance, and therefore ended MS's hold on this market. There still is no real replacement for a lot of MS services, and there still is a huge need for PC's/laptops The mobile market is a God Send, and MS has been slow to react to it.

But, honestly, does ANYONE truly believe MS is dying??? Really?? Not a chance. But, this will look like a new company in a few more years. And Android/Apple and the market will have forced it to happen.

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 12:03 1

45. ryq24 (Posts: 725; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)

Windows is becoming another nokia. No wonder both have join together to fight android and apple.

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 12:37

48. TA700 (Posts: 78; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)

Maybe PA should have placed the 2nd slide 1st, some seem to be confused at the point of this article.

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 14:16

49. yazbuh (Posts: 29; Member since: 21 Jun 2012)

It's not because nobody is buying PCs, but the fact that there are more people buying smartphones and tablets now, there are still many people buy PC, I do have two smart phones and a tablet but I ussually just use it when I'm outside or in a bit of a hurry, but if I'm at home I'm more at home at my PC...

posted on 17 Jul 2013, 15:20

50. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)

Since the wife purchased my Nexus 7, 1.0, last September, I use it for 90% of my web surfing and downloading.

posted on 18 Jul 2013, 00:11

55. puckhead (Posts: 81; Member since: 13 Jan 2013)

MS def got to the mobile market late with quality products, I wonder if this had anything with dedicating resources to Xbox

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