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Here are the first ads for the Samsung Galaxy S4

0. phoneArena 10 Apr 2013, 09:02 posted on

The Galaxy S4 continues surprising us as even after we got our review unit based on the Snapdragon 600 chip, Samsung outdoes itself in the Exynos 5 Octa version of the handset delivering even better results...

This is a discussion for a news. To read the whole news, click here

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 16:04 2

71. darkkjedii (Posts: 11230; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


He called you out, and challenged you to counter with an intelligent answer, and this is what you come back with? This proves you had no answer for him, as you met his challenge with a cop out...you got owned dude.

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 18:26 2

85. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


Alright, since you two just don't understand the basic meaning of a FEATURE, and cant read properly, I'll break it down to you.

If a pc runs a bigger app or a bigger game, it still uses the same feature as a smartphone.. just on a bigger scale.
It's the SAME core function.
A faster processor is not a feature.
Faster memory bandwidth is not a feature.
More RAM is not a feature, nor is the amount of hard disk memory.
It's all more of the same properties that make a computer, be it a smartphone or a laptop or a desktop.

Here's how a smartphone TRUMPS a pc feature wise - it can be used for EVERY basic function that a pc can provide, yet being a:
- telephone
- handheld camera
- GPS navigation device
- handheld music player
- pedometer /personal training device
- handheld gaming console
- mobile hotspot device
- remote control device
- wireless TV attached device
- personal assistant with superior voice command software
- augmented reality device
- mini meteo station
- a medical diagnostic device
- remote camera
- handheld e-book and e-magazine /PDF reader
- handheld USB hosting device
- digital handheld note taking device

NONE of the above is possible with a pc

Now, who's dumb, again?

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 18:50 2

90. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


..and of course, i missed some:
- a handheld radio
- a walkie-talkie (push to talk function)
- a metal detector

There, that should cover it

posted on 11 Apr 2013, 01:12 3

102. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


..and s**t, of course I still missed some. Lol:
- NFC device
- optical scanning device
- ruler and water level tool(via the accelerometer and gyroscope)

Done.
And that, my darkjedii, is how you OWN someone

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 20:03 3

96. Taters (Posts: 2948; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


You are kidding me right? Chaoticrazor never had a intelligent reply in his life. He can't own anyone if his life depended on it.

Did you even read the conversation?

Here let me translate it for you.

Darac: Yes, you can't.

Translation: Smartphone and PC's have very different features so you can't compare them like he said when he said "Yes, you can't". He basically went on about how each has very different hardware features like different sensors etc.

Chaoticrazor: Duh duh duh duih

Translation: He basically goes on a rant about what a PC can do better than a smartphone like the Note 2 when that is not even remotely the topic here. Darac says they are different and have different parts. This moron goes on a huge rant saying the PC is more powerful when Darac never even claimed that it wasn't in his original post. Talk about a stupid moron this Chaoticrazor is.

posted on 11 Apr 2013, 01:16 2

103. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


Hahaha.
Thanks, man. For explaining the obvious to those two.
I just didn't find it worth the effort

posted on 11 Apr 2013, 21:18

115. SleepingOz (unregistered)


TOTALLY MAN!
Basically, the only thing he does in an argument is to attack to person he's arguing with. He's an expert in ad hominem attacks.

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 16:05

72. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)


lmao your not getting out of this with your bs

explain like you said you would, stop dodging it fanboy

ohh and taters your bf darac needs all the help he can get so lucky your here. 2 clueless fanboys still been put in there place by one person so funny

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 16:49 1

77. darkkjedii (Posts: 11230; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


He's doing his research, to come up with a good counter chaotic.

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 20:08 3

97. Taters (Posts: 2948; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


You do not need to counter retardism. You just have to look at the retard with a puzzled and empathetic look and say...okay there buddy...

I suggest you read the posts from the beginning before picking sides to see that none of Chaoticrazor's replies make the least bit of sense.

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 18:36 2

86. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


Read my above post, you mindless bad little joke.

Funny thing is actually that you think I take you seriously, on an intellectual level.
You're so tiny.

posted on 11 Apr 2013, 03:11 1

104. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3012; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


This is getting interesting.
Didn't want to barge in but hey, make me a part of this whole enlightenment.
How will you develop an application without a PC?
How will you root your device without a PC?
How do you think Android would pass through tests without the power of a PC?
All the features may not be available on a PC, that's because most of the features you mentioned will be worthless on a PC!
You say NFC...does that explaination do you good? You carry CPU and tap that large thing on another CPU and loh, the image is sent! Does that make sense?
Try hooking up a 1TB external hard drive directly on your Android...do it!

posted on 11 Apr 2013, 05:46 2

106. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


Well, I see you're not understanding this either.
Alright.
Again, the things you mention aren't what I was talking about.
Why are you misinterpreting my simple point that a smartphone is simply FAR MORE feature packed device than your laptop?
When have I ever said it is more powerful, and more capable for things involving a keyboard and mouse?

Still don't understand?
Well imagine a situation where you are only allowed to use one electronic device in your life.
Which one would you choose - a galaxy s4, or a laptop?

I don't get what you mean by your NFC rant.
With a NFC smartphone, you simply have a secure digital payment device at hand, if you want.

Btw, yes it is possible to develop an app, even with smartphone only:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aide.ui&hl=en&referrer=utm_source%3Dgoogle%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_term%3Ddeveloping+an+app+on+android

And here's your 1TB Android:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-C6hbDT_t8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Both points are irrelevant to my case though.
And my case is still about smartphone simply being a beyond comparison more versatile and feature rich device overall.

posted on 11 Apr 2013, 20:35 2

114. SleepingOz (unregistered)


Hats off for "wasting" your time nailing them all, darac!
I myself would not have the patience to do so. Not to mention that some still won't acknowledge your points since they are irrational biased haters(yes I'm looking at you chaoticrazor).

posted on 12 Apr 2013, 04:43

119. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)


see your such a little knob its unreal

plus he took how long to research what he already claimed to know and half he just repeats his usual bulls**t doesnt even acknowledge what if commented as it proves him wrong and then sad kiss ass's like you and taters come to defend and cheer your fanboy friend on

truly pathetic kid you really are, as you can see im done trying to be reasonable with android fanboy rejects like yourself you should just leave actual discussions to bone biased people and go hug your green robot

dont reply your just gonna waste my time with a crap rehash comment and tell your 2 bf's not to either i know you all need each other as you cant do anything alone

posted on 12 Apr 2013, 05:12 1

120. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


Don't let a person like that get to you.
He is only pity worth.. a mildly annoying fly that makes you feeling not worth your energy, but after you had enough, makes you finally get up and squash it like a bug he is.

posted on 12 Apr 2013, 05:23

121. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)


aww you cant squash anything miss arrogant

you really think your high and mighty but you prove time and again you nothing but a little fanboy. only those 2 support your crap

fanboys till the end right lol

id love to see whats behind some of these accounts

posted on 11 Apr 2013, 05:30 1

105. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1619; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)


dude seriously you call everyone else fanboys when your just as bad!

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 19:54 1

95. Taters (Posts: 2948; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


LOL You truly are stupid aren't you. I am not even taking part of this conversation. Where did I even mention PC vs. mobile?

You have proved time and time again that you have zero ability to analyze a posting.

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 11:41

35. shamrock (Posts: 6; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)


what about being waterproof and dustproof???

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 12:14 2

41. dAnT3 (Posts: 8; Member since: 10 Apr 2013)


I assume u found the lost world of atlantis! ;)

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 09:19 1

7. Bumpingmobile (Posts: 10; Member since: 20 Feb 2013)


El primero es español!! Jajajaja! And the second one reminded me of Snook & JWOWW xD

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 09:25 6

8. protozeloz (Posts: 5375; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


Pictures with sounds? That's called a video Samsung -_-

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 09:34 10

11. Diego! (Posts: 504; Member since: 15 Jun 2009)


No, it's a still image with audio. Not a video.

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 10:48 2

28. protozeloz (Posts: 5375; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


And why would you do that instead of just sending a video in?

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 12:57 3

47. RapidCat (Posts: 351; Member since: 12 Jun 2012)


saving your data plan

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 14:00 1

54. Diego! (Posts: 504; Member since: 15 Jun 2009)


So you can send them per e-mail as if they were ordinary pictures? Or for a presentation?

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 16:07

73. protozeloz (Posts: 5375; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


That's the issue, its not an ordinary picture....

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 20:12

98. Taters (Posts: 2948; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


Sure it is. The only thing that makes sending videos a bitch is the file size and time needed. With an ordinary picture with sound, it is just an ordinary jpeg, which is an ordinary picture, with a tiny wav. file attached.

Or at least it should be.

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 18:45

89. Lboogey6 (Posts: 266; Member since: 31 Jan 2012)


its like a greeting card not to mention sending a video through message is a smaller more distorted quality not to mention not take up as much space. its for human beings quit being a nerd and realize people like things like that remember cards and frames you can add sound to why not on the phone now they simply life

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 10:28 4

22. kclgphilsbsa (Posts: 762; Member since: 21 Jan 2013)


cmon hater guys, if u dont want d phone, den dont bother urself going here and trolling around,

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 11:02 4

29. Apartments (Posts: 16; Member since: 21 Jun 2012)


Samsung is awesome thanks for the great features dual screens
Pop and play. .smart stay. .direct call. .too many to name

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 13:05 2

49. RapidCat (Posts: 351; Member since: 12 Jun 2012)


agree with you man,
people thumb you down because the don't have it on their phone.

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 11:05

31. KashAli (Posts: 105; Member since: 01 Apr 2013)


For £600 !!! All this :@

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 12:09 2

38. chistoefurpuffer (Posts: 139; Member since: 11 Mar 2013)


God damn Samsung, they are really good at advertising o.o

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 12:12 1

39. dAnT3 (Posts: 8; Member since: 10 Apr 2013)


truly a life companion congo Samsung another brilliant device :D

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 12:16 2

42. Xtasy (Posts: 270; Member since: 13 Jan 2013)


Once again useless feautures

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 12:17

44. Mass88 (Posts: 48; Member since: 06 Jan 2012)


Samsung are probably the only Android OEM that make good, useful ads. They key on specific features and highlight them as selling points.

I like Apple and they make good products, but they're even better marketing and getting their products out in insightful, and educating ads.

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 12:34 1

45. k1ng617 (Posts: 246; Member since: 13 Oct 2009)


Does the S4 Exynos have wake up lag like the Note 1 & Note 2?

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 14:00

52. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


I like these ads. Job well done samsung. Focusing on features is the way to go!

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 14:13

56. Taters (Posts: 2948; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


For the group play they should have showed them running plays and hiding their GS4's from the opposing team and coaches, cough Patriots, instead. Missed opportunity because sharing content for business, presentation, and sports plays use is a much stronger use of group play instead of music.

Yes, the group play does more than gaming and music.

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 15:49

66. zekes (Posts: 207; Member since: 14 Aug 2012)


ur silly my mac pro kills the gs4

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 15:57 1

68. jcpwn2004 (Posts: 314; Member since: 18 Jan 2012)


Pretty decent ads. Lol at people who think samsung sells so many phones because of advertising. I don't remember seeing any ads before I bought my gs2 and I'm pretty sure that phone sold millions.

Of course with record breaking profits they're willing to spend more on advertising, it's not what got them there though.

Look at microsoft, they spend millions on smoked by windows phone, surface ads, and scroogle'd but it's not like their sales are through the roof.

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 16:01

70. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5593; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


the first two you need more than one Galaxy S4 to even be able to use and S Translator as useful as that may be every once in a while is gonna make you look like an ass. doesn't matter though. it's the marketing effort that's gonna sell these things.

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 16:29 2

75. Taters (Posts: 2948; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


I am still waiting for solid proof that suggests Samsung's marketing is the driving force behind sales.

Let's see, they spend a lot of money on factories and R&D, spend a lot on marketing, and make the highest performance handsets with the most features. So how have we narrowed all these factors down into strictly marketing? Am I supposed to take a retarded HTC fan or just plain retard like Chaotic razors word for it? The best he can come up is Apple proves it is all marketing but he has never given any evidence that explains why Apple and Samsung's success is plain marketing. He is hiding behind pure speculation as gospel and claims that he is being objective. LMAO

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 16:53

78. jcpwn2004 (Posts: 314; Member since: 18 Jan 2012)


shhhh, you're being to logical for the fan boys. They need an excuse for why their favorite company is failing.

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 17:16

80. kclgphilsbsa (Posts: 762; Member since: 21 Jan 2013)


taters, lets accept that marketing is really a driving force of sales, but samsung cant reach this success if they didnt become the first manufacturer to do great and exciting things in d android world..

these blind haters are really dumb, theyr brainwashed by aluminum and ip57

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 17:26

83. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5593; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


i'm pretty sure Motorola and HTC set the stage lonnng before Samsung did anything even relevant in the Android world...

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 18:44 1

88. Taters (Posts: 2948; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


Yes, this is how objective and reasonable people think. That there is obviously a combination of different factors that attribute to Samsung sales.

These HTC fans simply can't accept that the HTC phones are not superior in everyone's mind. They think that their opinion is the only one that matters and if evidence appears that challenges their conviction, they choose to rationalize that their opinion is true and other factors such as marketing is the ONLY reason why others do not agree with them.

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 17:24 1

82. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5593; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


i'm sorry but where exactly is the proof on your end? the Galaxy S4 barely if at all outperforms phones like the One and the features are just neat little gimmicks that Samsung uses in their marketing to make the phone seem more neat and appealing. i'm sure most people with Galaxy SIII's and Galaxy Note II's barely even scratch the surface of using all of the features their phones offer.

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 18:40 1

87. Taters (Posts: 2948; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


Why would I need proof? I am not arguing that Samsung is successful because of strictly one reason. It could be the products, marketing, R&D, usability or any number of things. It is most likely a combination.

All I hear from your end is some butt hurt rationalizition that it is strictly marketing because you can't accept the fact that there is a possibility that people buy Samsung products because they are superior to the competition.

If HTC outsold Samsung like they did way back then, no one attributed it to marketing. Why is all marketing now. You moronic HTC fanboys need to accept that maybe HTC products are not superior to Samsung products at all and that is why they are constantly rated better and sell better. That is simply the more plausible explanation that explains why the Galaxy series has been phone of the year two years in a row. Let me guess, marketing won those awards for the GS2 and GS3 too? Lol sigh.....

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 18:57

91. Taters (Posts: 2948; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


I just gave you plenty of proof that you fan boys just ignore. Samsung spends a lot on research, factories, software engineers, marketing, and they make great products. So how is their success based strictly on marketing?

If your and chaoticrazors ridiculously stupid theory was true or THE driving factor, then Samsung can just stop building new design facilities, stop developing flexible screens, stop designing software gimmicks as you call them, and simply stop trying and put 80% of their expenses into marketing. I am sure it is a piece of cake to put a 5 inch 1080p screen into a 7.9mm body that is smaller than the HTC One and GS3.

There is a reason why the GS4 can do almost everything any other phone can and it is not marketing.

posted on 10 Apr 2013, 20:23

99. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5593; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


well if there's one thing you seem to be so sure of it's that Samsung sells more than HTC & Motorola because you think they have a higher quality line-up which i don't buy one bit. Samsung makes fine products but it's all bolstered by aggressive marketing to reach the demographics that looks for signs in marketing to decide what product to check out and probably buy next. tech enthusiasts should know better and make comparisons rationally and objectively for the long term. it's HTC, Motorola & Sony that are making the more substantial strides because they're the ones that are behind in sales and they're the ones with the most to prove. so far this year Samsung has failed to fix any of their shortcomings and that's most notably in the build quality department. in most areas that makes the best the competition has to offer viable alternatives there has not been any improvement. Samsung played it safe with the Galaxy S4 because that's really all they HAD to do. they brought it up to par with the competition specs wise and threw some new software tricks that most people will be whoo'd by but will probably never use. as a tech enthusiast i'm really just not with that. the whole thing just reeks of an Apple strategy and that kind of thinking will lead to the stagnation that's causing the shift in popularity in the mobile space from Apple to Samsung at this very moment. i'm not really an HTC fanboy, i didn't even much care about HTC for the past few years but this year they gave us something to truly be impressed with. the One brought just what we needed in the mobile space, an Android phone with an incredibly premium build quality, top of the line performance, killer speakers and an overall improved version of Sense which went from a UI that i truly disliked to one that i'm truly impressed with and i support HTC for that and there's plenty of blogs including notable ones like Engadget and The Verge that agree with me. next will be Motorola for sure which had already been slapping down Samsung in terms of engineering and design feats and with Google running the show...Samsung really should've prepared something more than a tock update to compete but after all most people aren't going to care about that. they're not on tech blogs. they're watching the latest Samsung ad on their TV right now.

posted on 11 Apr 2013, 10:45 1

108. Taters (Posts: 2948; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


You don't have to buy my opinion, I never said you did. You just have to buy that maybe people do buy Samsung products because they like them better and agree with my opinion. I didn't say you had to. I know that is the reason I bought the Nexus 10, it is just flat out the best Android tablet and the lowest priced high end one to boot. It doesn't look like you can accept that fact though.

I wouldn't say Samsung brought the GS4 up to "par" with the competition spec wise when it is obviously thinner, clocked higher, lighter, has a bigger screen, has the most advanced processor(Exynos 5 Octa), has the fastest ram available, has new sensors, new screen technology, crammed in a bigger battery. You may not think those things are a big deal or want any of them and that is fine, but some people do and simply dismissing them as "on par" with the competition is laughable and shows your bias towards Samsung. If a non Samsung device had those specifications, my guess is that you would probably notice them.

Another thing that reeks of bias is that you insist that the build quality is a shortcoming. Millions of people are obviously fine with it and there are advantages to sticking with that type of design. Stop trying to speak for everyone. Not everyone expects or wants Samsung to use a different manufacturing material or method. Maybe, people are fine with it and it is just YOU that has a problem with it and see it as a short coming that gives HTC the crown.

I wouldn't trust the views of Engadget or the Verge but no one is saying that HTC hasn't made strides. They obviously had and should. Do you hear the bias BS you are spewing though?

"Samsung really should've prepared something more than a tock update to compete"

So let me get this straight.Let's say I agree with you that the GS4 is just a "tock" update, I don't but obviously I am not going to change your mind because you are so biased against them that every specification they have over their competitors are just minor or software gimmicks(designing software isn't easy at all btw or we would have much more interesting apps than we currently do. I would personally download those things on non Galaxy S devices if they were in the playstore and I think most people except you and your HTC possy would too): Are you saying Samsung can't compete just because HTC added front speakers and fixed a UI that shouldn't need fixing in the first place by turning it into Windows Phone Sense? LOL. Even if the GS4 is just a tock update, I do not see why they need more than a tock update to compete. It is the competitions job to catch up, not Samsung's job to stay 5 steps ahead of the competition just to compete. Do you see your ridiculous double standards here? So HTC caught up, just in your opinion btw because I don't think they have, and now Samsung can't compete? Okay there. The reality is that all they need is similar specifications to "compete" The rest is very much subjective and about preference.

posted on 11 Apr 2013, 12:49 1

112. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5593; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


you talk a lot about facts and demand proof from others but again i ask you just how can you prove what you're saying either? i think you have to consider that MAYBE Samsung's sales are bolstered by aggressive marketing. there's a pretty damn good chance it is too. most wildly successful Android handsets have had a lot of marketing dollars behind them.

um, yeah, most S4 variants have the Snapdragon 600 which makes it exactly as powerful as the One, the Optimus G Pro and many others to follow this year. phones are getting larger and components are getting smaller, making phones thin isn't going to be a hard feat if it's in any experienced company's desire to do so. the one and a half year old Droid Razr is still thinner than the Galaxy S4 with a smaller footprint and a larger SoC. it would've been better for Samsung to keep the SIII's thickness with an even larger battery then they would've had less to worry about from Motorola and the screen preference is really subjective. i prefer AMOLED myself but SLCD3 is really nice too especially with the zerogap touch measure. when it comes down to using the device and comparing it in real world situations the S4 is on par except for with the camera in most situations. i don't have bias against Samsung. i have Samsung devices you ding dong. i don't care for LG's mostly software gimmick approach either.

lol, right, read any first hands on with the Galaxy S4. we're sick of supposed "premium" Android handsets feeling like cheap toys. millions of people are fine with it because they've had to be fine with it. build quality is a concession for having the "next big thing" now any of us looking for a device with that premium build quality we're looking for can look no further than the One. good job Samsung.

lol, oh that's convenient. really renown blogs like Engadget, The Verge & BGR have views that obviously don't line up with yours and there's something off and untrustworthy about their views? but ANYONE else that praises the Galaxy S4 only proves you're right on the money? you need to get real guy.

yeah, fat chance on that. if i saw a Galaxy S4 on display from a distance i would probably think it's an SIII. yeah, maybe they do but i'm sure it's just a waste of memory because they probably hardly ever use them or never think to use them when they would want to and on the other hand there's a whole dev community for the Galaxy S and Note devices that's full force on hacking their phones for the AOSP experience. yeah, i'm sure that's just what Apple thought too. they couldn't look past the dollar signs to see that the competition was beginning to really pass them up. oh yeah, the Galaxy S4 will sell, sell, sell but in Samsung's mind they don't have to make any real changes to their strategy because they control the market but Samsung has to keep a 2 step pace because that's the pace everyone else is keeping in order to catch up. if they slow down now the competition has a good chance of stealing the-

posted on 11 Apr 2013, 12:52 1

113. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5593; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


market away into their favor. either people will get sick of the same ol', same ol' from Samsung or another company will come out with something really radical with a lot of marketing reinforcement to just take the sales. the HTC One had a good chance but the marketing muscle just isn't behind it.

posted on 11 Apr 2013, 23:11

116. Taters (Posts: 2948; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


Are you really that stupid? Like I said, I am not the one claiming that it is all marketing so the onus is on you to provide the proof that it is all about marketing.

All I have to do to prove what I am saying is provide a variety of other possible reasons, which I did since I am saying Samsung's success is probably based on a combination of different factors. How hard is that to get through your thick skull?

It doesn't matter if most GS4 uses the qualcomm 600, it is still clocked higher, benches better, and has a bigger battery than the One. Don't forget the faster ddr3 ram which makes a huge difference for PCs.

Techblogs saying that they are sick of Samsung design doesn't mean that myself and millions of others are. Do you base everything on what tech journalist say, I hope not. Also for every Engadget, the Verge, or BGR that is irresponsible enough to declare the One the winner before even reviewing the GS4, you get a GSMARENA or Phone arena that declares the GS4 the winner after reviewing both. Can't compete without changing the design eh?

I can provide a huge list of reasons why the GS4 is a superior handset but I am not going to try and force that opinion on you just because some Samsung haters on phone arena and the Verge agrees with you.

Are you starting to see how stupid you sound now and how bias you are now?

The fact is that it could be marketing, it could be quality, it could be performance. The fact is that we don't know why and may never know why without a super extensive, deep, billion dollar survey with a sample size the size of the entire population and even then that could be skewed.

The fact is that claiming that it is just marketing is a butt hurt defense by HTC fanboys because they can't possibly know that Samsung is successful strictly based on marketing. They can't prove it. Again, I don't have to prove anything because I am not claiming anything. I am just pointing out some possibilities why Samsung maybe successful. Not making some stupid claim like it is all marketing without providing any solid proof.

posted on 12 Apr 2013, 01:01 1

117. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5593; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


what i'm saying is that it's MOSTLY marketing but you seem hell bent on trying to convince everybody that it's not mostly about the marketing and that it has more to do with the quality and excellence of the Galaxy S series. i never said Samsung devices are bad devices, just over-hyped. way i see it is your idea of how Samsung gets such high volumes in sales leans towards the quality of the devices and mine leans towards the marketing power. you have every bit of convincing to do for me as i do for you. i can't disprove you and you can't disprove me. i need proof, you need proof.

it benchmarks marginally better than the One in some benchmarks and the One scores marginally better in others and clock frequencies on mobile devices powered by such powerful SoC's is really negligible. i'd prefer the lower voltages anyway to preserve battery life. DDR3 memory is standard for Snapdragon 600 devices. that memory is 50% better than DDR2 and even in benchmarks that test memory the S4 and the One still just swap blows.

i think it's safe to say that something along the line of millions are sick of the plastic. i mean really? enough professionals that handle handsets all the time say the same thing, i'm sure quite a few normal people would agree about something so superficial. maybe you should go back and read their US carrier reviews of the One. copy paste pretty much and that's post international S4 reviews and besides that i'm sure they all had a pretty good idea of how the S4 stacks up from plenty of hands on time with it while they were testing the One so what i said before still stands.

lol, a huge list, something a total fanboy would say.

mmm, lemme check...nope. really the only thing we've talked about based on solid fact and information is the specs and i just had to correct you there...

well without any proof to disprove our theories you're kind of beyond the boundaries of being a rational debater and into more fanboy boundaries by calling anybody who doesn't regard Samsung's success as a testament to having the highest quality handsets "butthurt HTC fanboys" you're so convinced you're right and everybody else that doesn't agree with you is stupid yet you don't have a shred of evidence to disprove anything that i'm saying at the least. i'm telling you, you need to check yourself before you wreck yourself.

posted on 12 Apr 2013, 01:09

118. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5593; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


and before you go calling me biased again you really need to take a look at my phone profile...

posted on 12 Apr 2013, 12:42

122. Taters (Posts: 2948; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


Oh please! Learn how to debate properly. These are the facts, you claim that it is mostly marketing which you have no proof of. The only thing that I am saying is that it is NOT mostly marketing. I do not need to prove anything, although I already gave a lot of evidence with superior reviews, awards, sales, and word of mouth in favor of Smasung(you do not achieve all of that if it is mostly marketing and you are just ignoring my proof like a fanboy) while you gave ZERO proof. You claim that it is mostly marketing, which requires proof to make such a strong statement. I am saying it could be a variety of reasons or a combination, which means I am not making any claim to what it is so I do not require proof even though I just gave you proof. My proof is that there are too many other possible reasons for sales, great reviews, and awards to rule in favor of marketing. That is proof. I just need to give other possibilities and that is proof, which I have done. All I need to do is cause doubt that it isn't mostly marketing while you have to prove that it is mostly marketing. You understand dumb ass? If you were not so stupid you would have seen that a long time ago. The fact that marketing has nothing to do with review scores and awards also disproves your retarded mostly marketing theory. What disproves the possibility that quality is the driving factor? Nothing you spewed. In fact, the review scores and awards support the quality theory because marketing doesn't dictate higher scores and awards compared to the competition, quality does.

Um, the Qualcomm 600 in the HTC One uses DDR2 ram and the GS4 is the only phone that is known to have DDR3 for sure. For the Optimus G pro and Padfone infinity I haven't done enough research to verify what type of ram those tow handsets use but I do know the GS4 has much faster RAM than the HTC One. I suggest you go do some research before you claim that you have corrected me on specifications.

Hands on time does not equate to a full review. Maybe in butt hurt HTC fan world but in the real scientific world those things are thrown out until both parties receive the retail review units, so no your point doesn't stand for much.

After all this time you are still too pathetic to realize what I have been talking about all a long. No, I am not convinced I am right and you are wrong. I am convinced that I may be right and you are wrong. There is a big difference. I am open to it being a combination of factors with quality being an important factor. You are hell bent in arguing that marketing is the main factor and driving force, which isn't supported by anything, just by your pure fanboy speculation.

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