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Has Apple lost its mojo? (poll results)

0. phoneArena 13 Sep 2013, 04:59 posted on

Has Apple lost its mojo? The question first started appearing as the realization came that with Steve Jobs Apple jost more than just another chief executive…

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posted on 13 Sep 2013, 12:54 3

88. RoboBonobo (Posts: 61; Member since: 13 Sep 2013)


Why would Apple fans (in large numbers) flock to a site that reviews phones in general? Of course this is a biased sample. All the Apple fans are over at Mac Rumors.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 05:04 3

2. darushah.shah (Posts: 18; Member since: 03 Sep 2013)


Yes they need something very extra ordinary and revolutionary...

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 05:06 15

3. eliasafram7 (Posts: 83; Member since: 18 Mar 2013)


R.I.P apple

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 05:49 2

15. LiquidGalaxy (Posts: 332; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)


Lol - i love people that like to believe this. Do you know how much money this company has?? They are not going anywhere anytime time soon, and their products will continue to sell in the millions, and will continue to be promoted by celebrities etc. the world over.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 05:55 9

18. criticism (Posts: 46; Member since: 12 Sep 2013)


Don't be so confident! Just a few years ago, Nokia has much more better conditions (more than 60% of total phone trade)! But losing innovation made it what you see now!

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 06:10 4

22. LiquidGalaxy (Posts: 332; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)


Nokia has never held as much value as Apple; they are also (pretty much) solely a mobile phone maker with no revenue coming in from any other areas. Apple have Phones, Tablets, Computers, TV set top boxes, iTunes, a soon to be released watch and countless other accessories and software. They are not RIPing as the original poster said..

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 07:45 2

45. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)


95% of the apple stock is pretty much for the ipad/iphone/ipod (all are the same thing just packaged diffrently).

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 12:58

89. RoboBonobo (Posts: 61; Member since: 13 Sep 2013)


I think you'll find that stock is in the company, not individual devices. You invest money in a company not a device that the company sells.
Further, those devices you mentioned are still selling better than devices from any other company.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 15:27

102. a_merryman (Posts: 749; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)


Thats not entirely true about Nokia, they have a fairly large business. They have their mapping business(Nokia Maps which owns Navteq), Nokia Solutions and Networks (NSN) which is where they make a large portion of their money. Those weren't in the deal with Microsoft btw, nor were their patents.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 19:01

112. blazee (Posts: 412; Member since: 02 Jan 2012)


nokia was never popular in the U.S.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 20:54

118. a_merryman (Posts: 749; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)


....I never made the assertion that they were. Though I'm sure most people my age had a nokia brick as their first phone, back in the day (early 2000s)

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 05:15 2

5. amansingal14 (Posts: 309; Member since: 08 Sep 2012)


iOS 7, 4S, 5, 5S and 5C, I am seeing you.
Edit - I mean they are clear indicator of the results.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 05:18 1

6. bloodline (Posts: 706; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)


to the average user it is still a fashion device. do they really need to have 'mojo' or just keep up the trend

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 05:24 4

9. tiara6918 (Posts: 2074; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)


Most of the people who have an iPhone are trend followers or fanboys. As long as they have that, their sales wouldn't go to a slump.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 07:53

48. roldefol (Posts: 4332; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


Most of the people I know with iPhones are neither trendy nor fanboys. They buy the iPhone because it's simple, user-friendly, and gets the job done.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 07:58 1

50. Penywyz (banned) (Posts: 255; Member since: 13 Aug 2013)


Then why didn't they buy a windows phone? 2 screens to run the entire phone is about as simple as it gets...

Erroneous on all accounts!!!

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 08:03 3

51. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


"...and gets the job done."

While other smartphones do not make the job, right?

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 08:16 1

54. roldefol (Posts: 4332; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


Other phones aren't necessary in their view. It really is the simple, to-the-point iPhone, and then everything else. WP8 looks blocky, and Android phones are too cluttered. You have to get into the mentality of the average non-techie phone buyer.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 08:26 5

60. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


Average user don't have to root Android smartphones to make them work.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 08:35

61. roldefol (Posts: 4332; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


Another major complaint of mine around here. Don't assume iPhones are only for stupid people or trend-chasers or wannabe-rich folk. They're for everyone. And don't assume Android is better for everyone, but then tell me it has to be rooted and modded to work best. Smartphones are for all; make them work for all.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 09:56 1

68. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


You have said that iPhones gets the job done. And it is silly argument since other smartphones also gets job done, so it is aint argument! And that's why I have said that if you don't want, you don't have to root your Android smartphone to meake it work, because it works even without a rooting or so.

If you don't realize my question in comment #51 was rhetorical and sarcastic.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 13:07 2

91. RoboBonobo (Posts: 61; Member since: 13 Sep 2013)


iPhones are simple and easy to use. For the average user, Android is more complicated... not too complicated to learn how to make it get the job done, but it takes more effort to learn because it's not as clean as simple as iPhone.
I recently bought a Nexus 4, and it took me 2 weeks to figure out why it wasn't going into deep sleep, causing the battery to drain 10% per hour while idle... Just one anecdotal account of why iPhone is the better purchase for someone who doesn't want to spend hours trying to get their device to work properly.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 19:40 1

114. Slammer (Posts: 1515; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)


---" iPhones are simple and easy to use. For the average user, Android is more complicated..."---

Then why do far more average users, own Android? It can't be because its compicated. But, rather because it is more comprehensive and has easier accessibilty to more offerings that consumers like without having to modify their devices.

John B.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 19:52

116. RoboBonobo (Posts: 61; Member since: 13 Sep 2013)


Why do more average users own android phones? Because average people don't know what's best for them, and will get whatever is recommended to them by their fanboy friends....
That's what I think is going on.
If I didn't know as much as I do about how to get things working properly on my android, I would have been joined with the countless number of average users who complain of poor battery life on their phone. There might be more people using android, but that doesn't mean they knew what they were doing when they bought it, or how to get it working properly again when something goes wrong.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 21:10

121. Slammer (Posts: 1515; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)


---" Because average people don't know what's best for them, and will get whatever is recommended to them by their fanboy friends...."---

Apple has been the quintessential definition of your argument since the original iPhone. Friends purchasing iphones because all their friends had one or wanted one. Now that Android is the world choice, poeple are dumb?

Hypocrisy does not make for healthy debate.

John B.

posted on 14 Sep 2013, 00:31

128. RoboBonobo (Posts: 61; Member since: 13 Sep 2013)


When people chose Apple devices because that's what their friends told them was best, it was good because iOS is a better OS for people who don't want to constantly solve problems with their device.. wakelocks etc.
Now that Android is the one that people are choosing because their friends recommend it (or whatever) , they end up with a device that isn't designed for people who don't know what they're doing - they end up with force closes and wakelocks etc. and have no knowledge of how to fix them, and even if they know what to do, they might not want to spend hours doing it.
iOS is designed for people who don't know what they're doing, don't want to learn how things work and fix them, or don't want to be bothered. And that's why iOS is a better fit for these people.

Further, I don't understand why you're calling me a hypocrite.. Do you think I own an iPhone? I don't. Even if I did own an iPhone -- am I guilty of something that I'm accusing others of doing? No, I am not. You're making an assumption with that one.

posted on 14 Sep 2013, 05:52

131. Slammer (Posts: 1515; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)


---" When people chose Apple devices because that's what their friends told them was best,"---

What makes this different than if Android is suggested by friends?

---" it was good because iOS is a better OS for people who don't want to constantly solve problems with their device.. wakelocks etc."---

In the history of computational devices, problems always reside. One of the most prolific requests from consumers, is to get the most out of something they purchase and with many choices. Apple may create something easy, but the average consumer had ambraced Windows and now android due to being access ready. Solving problems such as not wanting to jailbreak a device, is something that most consumers have no knowledge of and don't want to bother with it. Just plug and play.

---" iOS is designed for people who don't know what they're doing, don't want to learn how things work and fix them, or don't want to be bothered. And that's why iOS is a better fit for these people"---

Spoken like Steve Jobs. His exact words to push Ios as the go to platform. Marketing takes many shapes and to prey on consumers that seemingly know nothing, is an insult to many intelligent people that know nothing about other platforms due to this sales tactic.

---" Further, I don't understand why you're calling me a hypocrite. Do you think I own an iPhone? I don't. Even if I did own an iPhone -- am I guilty of something that I'm accusing others of doing? No, I am not. You're making an assumption with that one."---

To be honest, I'm not exactly sure what you're goal is here. You have consistantly have been celebrating Apple yet, now you say you don't own an iPhone? Do you own any Apple product? If not, then you are either a hypocrite in dismissing others logic for choosing another platform or a traitor towards Apple.

John B.

posted on 14 Sep 2013, 18:09

144. RoboBonobo (Posts: 61; Member since: 13 Sep 2013)


It's not hypocritical for me to say anything I've said here. You can choose whatever device you want, for whatever reason you can think of. I said iOS is simple and easy to use. I would almost always recommend an iPhone to someone who is going to sign a contract to get their smartphone, if they're a technophobe... That's what my point is in this thread. I'm not a technophobe, thus it is not hypocritical for me to use another platform which is better suited to me as a user.
Since you asked: No I don't currently own any Apple products -- I owned an iTunes feature phone before, and later on I owned an iPod Shuffle. I don't own one right now, but I'm most likely going to be getting the new iPod Touch if Apple releases one this year. There are a couple features I'm crossing my fingers for.
There's nothing hypocritical about liking multiple competing brands.
And there's nothing insulting about recommending iOS to someone who's afraid of computers.
Nuff said.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 06:01 3

20. criticism (Posts: 46; Member since: 12 Sep 2013)


For being an updated fashion, u definitely need to be innovative!! When u just duplicating ur previous devices, then ur fashion also loses its popularity!

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 05:23 10

7. LetsBeHonest (Posts: 1484; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)


Apple produce nice devices but todays Android flagships area way ahead of them.
They should have been best if no one else is around. Lol.

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