Has AT&T sold out of its pre-order stock of the Nokia Lumia 900?
0. phoneArena 31 Mar 2012, 19:08 posted on
According to a source for WMPoweruser, AT&T has already sold all of its pre-order inventory for the Nokia Lumia 900 in about a day; what this means for orders placed after the launch date of April 8th is unknown at the moment...
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1. roscuthiii (Posts: 2182; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)
For the purpose of having a competitive market, this is good news. Now the question is... Do we know how much pre-order stock AT&T had? 100K? 500K 1M?
8. Whodaboss (Posts: 176; Member since: 18 Nov 2011)
Regardless of the number of pre-order stock on hand. The operative answer here is that "...AT&T has already sold all of its pre-order..." Lets say that again, AT&T has sold "ALL" of its pre-order Nokia Lumia 900s. That's the great news Nokia and MS and we as Windows supporters should be very happy to hear! Awesome!
10. roscuthiii (Posts: 2182; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)
Not regardless of the number... if the number was only 10K available for pre-order then it's not s**t. If it was 1M then this is a super huge deal.
Friggin' fanboys... I swear.
20. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1111; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
I think the point Whodaboss was trying to make was that irregardless of how many pre-order units were available, this means that the Lumia 900 was more popular than AT&T thought it would be. Usually carriers try to carry as many pre-order units as they think will be enough to supply the initial demand, but in this case they were sold out of the amount they thought would be enough. So it doesn't really matter if the amount of units was 1,000 or 1,000,000. The fact that AT&T and/or Nokia only thought they needed to supply whatever amount and that there were more sales than expected is good news. I agree with Whodaboss that this could possibly be good news for Nokia and WindowsPhone.
21. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
correct. ATT projects what they think the demand will be and they order the product accordingly. No matter what they had in stock, the orders were higher than expected, which is always a good thing. Lets just hope they dont pull an Apple and constantly go out of stock to keep demand artificially inflated.
24. roscuthiii (Posts: 2182; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)
Oh, I get that entirely... Not arguing that point at all. Consumer interest is definitely good news for both Nokia and Windows Phone. And good news for competition in the industry as a whole.
The problem still remains that without a number released for how much pre-order stock there was we can't know whether or not AT&T just underestimated that interest or if we're looking at some new Tickle Me Elmo craze.
If AT&T underestimated consumer interest then it's easy for the media/analysts to overestimate consumer interest without the number sold itself.
If you were being cryptically told some championship sports team were coming to your party, wouldn't you want to know if you were getting the winners of the World Series, a minor league team, or the local high school team?
25. roscuthiii (Posts: 2182; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)
People are aware that creating false hype over sold-out products is an established marketing practice aren't they?
Hopefully the consumer interest doesn't wane after a few months. I'd like to see at least a three-way tie between the smartphone OS's.
27. Whodaboss (Posts: 176; Member since: 18 Nov 2011)
I think Dr. Phil & Remixfa explained it well. As for being a fanboy ok I'm guilty, guilty as charged. But here's the rub, I don't ever read Android or iOS articles. I don't ever visit those articles to express my opinion for those devices because I'm not impressed or interested with them. Why, because I have owned them and they did not live up to my expectations.
Also, I realize there are those who own and love Android and iOS devices and that's their perogative. I'm only interested in the upcoming possibilities of WP and their success (hopefully). but I don't have to down play or bad mouth Android or iOS to make me feel good or try to put someone else down for their choices.
As I've written many times before if you are an Android, iOS, BADA, (name your OS) fan, that's great enjoy your OS of choice but why do people have to put down an OS they don't even use or have never used? Now, if someone actually used WP OS and stated hey, I didn't like it because it didn't do this or that, therefore I prefer another OS I can respect that. But just blatant hating on something for the sake of hating I'm like, what's the point.
28. roscuthiii (Posts: 2182; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)
My little peevish outburst wasn't meant to be directed at you, Whodaboss. Just a little crankiness during a long shift on the weekend directed at the people who are quick to jump to negatives. (Not that thumbs up or down even matter.) [Like I said, cranky moment. GF's even set up a 'douche jar' now to put a dollar in. :-/ ]
I agree entirely with Dr.Phil & remixfa (and everyone else) about it being a good thing, but I don't think that detracts from my point made in post #24. The number has significance.
30. Whodaboss (Posts: 176; Member since: 18 Nov 2011)
Roscuthiii, not that most of us don't get your point. Yes, believe me I would luv to hear Nokia sold 1M phones. But we WP supporters knows that might not be realistic at this moment. We are just looking at the positives and this news is positive. It tells those who support WP there are people out there who are wanting WP devices. So many people put down WP OS for petty reasons. I know there's a lot of people who just plain dont like Microsoft so that plays a big role in the negativity.
But I got to tell you I think the OS is awesome!!! It may not be for everyone but the smoothness, and thus far it has NEVER frozen up or shutdown after 5 months owning the HTC Radar. Sure the App store may not have as many apps as iTunes or Android but it has enough apps for my purposes. I just wish the "hero" phones will come to TMo.
31. roscuthiii (Posts: 2182; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)
Yep, so far most things are looking pretty good about the OS. If I weren't on contract with Verizon and still grandfathered into unlimited data I'd definitely be looking into it.
Considering how late into the game Verizon gets with new phones perhaps they'll have a compelling offering when my contract's up.
Here's to hoping!
23. ZEUS.the.thunder.god (unregistered)
i am an android lover but its good to see Nokia making a comeback.
3. nnaatthhaannx2 (Posts: 820; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
Who cares, it needs to go on Verizon.
7. Whodaboss (Posts: 176; Member since: 18 Nov 2011)
Thanks for caring or else you would not have wasted your time to read or even bother to post. But yes, this phone should be released to all carriers!
And for the record it's the carriers that determines which phones they want to carry or not carry not the phone maker. Also, I don't believe Verizon is interested in any more WP7 devices. They are waiting for WP8 that's why phone makers aren't knocking down their doors with any new WP7 devices.
4. pongkie (Posts: 533; Member since: 20 Aug 2011)
i would get one too if i could get it for free or a penny
5. TROLL.ISAHA (banned) (Posts: 535; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)
N9 IS MUCH BETTER!
OPEN TO= ANDROID. MEEGO.WINDOWS.....
N9 OPEN SOURCE HANDSET. UNLIKE 900.
11. belovedson (Posts: 978; Member since: 30 Nov 2010)
n9 does not have lte and the 900 just might.
who gives a crap about customization when it takes 5 minutes to get there. when lte becomes more mainstream. starting with os6 and iphone 5. most if not all phones that do not fit the lte banner will be pretty much pointless
19. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)
did u ever consider not everyone wants android? gasp...
and no u cant run windows phone on it
6. Whodaboss (Posts: 176; Member since: 18 Nov 2011)
This is no surprise at all! The same thing would have happened if this type of phone was released on all the major carriers. Nokia + MS is the bomb!
9. satydesh (Posts: 71; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
response is more than expected by nokia and at and t!!!!
12. belovedson (Posts: 978; Member since: 30 Nov 2010)
i cant believe i am not heavily waiting in anticipation of this phone but nowhere near as gs3
14. cripton805 (Posts: 1421; Member since: 18 Mar 2012)
Hey... you guys know that walmart price matches right? Its on their commercial. Id go in the store and demand the same price. False advertisement if they dont. Id complain and make a ruckus. Possibly hire an attorney. My life is too busy for false advertisements ;)
22. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
price matching comes with caveats. Most of the time its price matching other physical stores. Online doesnt always count towards it since online tends to be cheapest. But, hey, there is no harm in trying.
15. jack1059 (Posts: 72; Member since: 31 Mar 2012)
How many phones were available for pre order? Considering your sources are suggesting they sold out within a day or two, its either dubious (given the current small market share of wp) or a surprise hit. Either way id expect you to check into it prior to publishing, rather than just regurgitating a claim.
16. LaVerdad81 (Posts: 3; Member since: 28 Dec 2011)
I have had the phone for a week now and it is pretty sweet. LTE is great on the device.
18. cripton805 (Posts: 1421; Member since: 18 Mar 2012)
I think if I was on ATT Id get it just to support Microsoft and their Mobile OS. I think it will blow up and be the next best thing.
Heres why... Android is really bugging people with their updates and pretty much just lets everyone do whatever the hell they want. Like HTC, Moto, etc...
I dont really like to support Apple because the company thinks they invented mobile phones and sue the crap out of anyone even if it might have the same damn shape thats been around for decades or something.
I really hope Microsoft has a streamlined user experience and all of the phones are up to date that can support the software like their PCs.
I will make the switch when it comes to VZW if ever.
26. 7thspaceman (Posts: 1524; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
Folks Can anyone confirm that AT and T will have special rights to be the First to sell the Lumia 900 for I think for 45 to 90 days and then it can be sold by other Carriers I hope this is true because Maybe Verizon will get some smarts and sell their Customers the Nokia Lumia 900 CDMA model Verizon is a more Popular cell phone network than AT and T Verizon would sell so many Nokia 900's it would make your head spin it is bad for Verizon to let the opportunity slip by to sell a really good Windows smart phone Verizon could have set what is known as Customer preorder service where a Verizon customer orders a Verizon CDMA Nokia Lumia 900 in the store or online and Verizon buys the Phones from Nokia and has it shipped to the customer for them to take it to be activated. This way they donot have a lot of inventory of unsold phones.
Verizon customers like myself want Justice we want a Nokia 900 damn looks like I have to get off Verizon to get what I want and that is not good business for Verizon but makes AT and T and others who sell The Nokia 900 happy to make some money
29. KGFTL (Posts: 1; Member since: 01 Apr 2012)
First Post Ever!
My pre-orders are confirmed...phew! Just to be safe I ordered two through AT&T premier...AND two from my guy at the local store...looks like I am getting 4!! Oops...I will have 3 extra non contract once I decide which color I like best in person....I figure I can resell..I was guaranteed by AT&T management not to worry about upgrade/ restocking fees because they have put me through the ringer. Due to "upgrades" to local towers had to get a Microcell to use my Focus S and the iPhone in my house. It's off topic but if anyone can provide suggestions on Microcell troubleshooting that would be appreciated.
Back to the Lumia! It's a beauty and it's a hugely positive sign that they are sold out. The figures are no longer posted so this is, in full disclosure..based on my memory... But I'm 99.9% sure Launch amounts were 1/2 million handsets for purchase and the same figure for the retailers. This WAS posted....
I hear a lot of people complainging the specs are in general lower than Nokia could /should've done. I think that's ridiculous....except for the smallest % of users no needs, uses and requires anything the Lumia doesnt already have. If cash is an issue and can't afford to buy a new phone when they make the next version then get out of the "newest release" catagory and get a different device.
How long has it taken Apple to get the iPhone right? Typing this from an IPad2...returned my 3....wasn't worth it for me...so I am open to using whatever device /OS works best for what I am doing...and I love my toys so the more the better! If Apple is allowed YEARS to make theirs work, can't Nokia get a chance?
Walmart? Really? If the Lumia were free I still wouldn't step within 100 ft of that store. I won't digress on that, and I am not an overly "political" (wouldn't be typing on an Apple device if that were the case!) buy really? That one company is responsible for so many negative socio-economic shockwaves I am amazed it's not on the news every day...but cheaper is better right?
What do I need for accessories...I have Goriila Glass now...it is NOT scratch resistant so will need something. I am hoping for as naked a look as possible.
Last thing.. is there ANY truth to the rumours that MS and / or Nokia are adding free incentive gifts at Lauch? WP Central said free Xbox...but that's stupid....no one gives away a cash cow for free? But a 6 month Zune pass? Realistic....
Would like to hear what you have heard?
32. Altair (Posts: 367; Member since: 02 Feb 2012)
AT&T Declared Nokia Lumia 900 as a "hero" phone. There is a huge amount of money for "the operation rolling thunder".
I belive that AT&T had quite large supply of those amazing Lumia 900 devices. Still demand was higher than they expected! It is really and I mean REALLY good news!
It is time to move forward already. That retro iOS (designed early -90) and unchanged phone design with 3.5" is really getting old.
At the end of the day, it is good for us, customers that there are more options. That will make sure, that no device OEM can ride with old design year after year.