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Hands-on with the new Verizon PTT devices

0. phoneArena 13 Aug 2008, 02:02 posted on

Verizon has launched their second-generation PTT service, with the Casio Boulder and Moto Adventure as launch devices...

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posted on 20 Oct 2010, 01:42

1. LessthanZach (Posts: 106; Member since: 29 Apr 2008)

From my experience, the boulder does not stand up to the moto. The moto's speaker is much louder and clearer, the size is nicer, the hinge is easier to operate and the most important thing: the earpiece does not sound like shit.

posted on 13 Aug 2008, 11:21

4. Sun-Dude (unregistered)

What people don't realize is the Boulder's speakers are covered with a waterproof membrane. So yes, it will probably not sound as good as the Moto, which is not rated for moisture at all. Just like everything, it's a trade-off.

posted on 13 Aug 2008, 15:05

10. LessthanZach (Posts: 106; Member since: 29 Apr 2008)

yup. Just sad because the type V didnt sound as bad....

posted on 15 Aug 2008, 02:24

30. David A. (unregistered)

if you cant hear the audio in a phone, im sure its TTY compatable and you could always get an hearing aid. audio on the phone isnt that bad, you can hear it up to your ear fine, you just cant use speakerphone in super loud enviroments, but in that situation using a phone is stupid anyways.

posted on 13 Aug 2008, 06:33

2. (unregistered)

casio should stick to making watches

posted on 13 Aug 2008, 08:32

3. (unregistered)

both phone are good, its depend on what you are using them phone.

posted on 13 Aug 2008, 11:52

5. (unregistered)

#3 - The phone is actually made by UT Starcom. It's just branded by Casio.

posted on 17 Aug 2008, 20:37

42. phone lover (unregistered)

nope, wrong info.phone is made and manufactured by casio but just selled by ut starcom.

posted on 13 Aug 2008, 11:52

6. (unregistered)

I would rather have a phone that is waterproof just so I could throw it at someones face in the pool.

posted on 13 Aug 2008, 13:12

7. (unregistered)

@ 9 hahaahhaaha i that made me actually "lol"...made me think of the old sprint commercial.."my phones got a new security device. Really?. Yeah, try to grab it." *chucks it in his face* ...i would love to do that..imagine the laughs and time testing memory no one would forget.. "dude you remeber when we were younger and swimming are robs pool and i belted you in the face with my phone...and fractured your nose"

posted on 15 Aug 2008, 02:22

29. David A. (unregistered)

I will never forget the sprint theft deterent commercial. its true, people brag to much about there damn phones. to bad sprint sucks though

posted on 16 Aug 2008, 12:36

39. lol (unregistered)

crime deterrent...lmao

posted on 13 Aug 2008, 13:36

8. (unregistered)

#8 Actually the phone is made by LG.

posted on 13 Aug 2008, 15:08

11. LessthanZach (Posts: 106; Member since: 29 Apr 2008)

actually, no it's not. Audiovox/UTStarcom makes it.

posted on 14 Aug 2008, 13:00

22. (unregistered)

It's made my UT Starcomm. It just happens to use the same chargers as some of the earlier LG phones ( Chocolate 8550, original enV, 8700, etc. ).

posted on 13 Aug 2008, 14:44

9. (unregistered)


posted on 13 Aug 2008, 15:34

12. fritos (unregistered)

this new ptt phones where demo in front of me in at vw store, can you say readly link?lol maybe a second or two faster! qchat and iden ptt are so much faster! vw ptt sucks!!!!!

posted on 13 Aug 2008, 16:06

13. (unregistered)

I dont know what demo you saw but I have seen both qchat and vzw ptt demoed and they seem about the same top me, u must be a sprint fanboy.

posted on 13 Aug 2008, 21:29

18. fritos (unregistered)

and you must be a vw fanboy! go to the store tell them to demo it for you and you will see! and no i have a dare thank you but i did come form nextel.

posted on 14 Aug 2008, 03:26

21. (unregistered)

You must not have read what I posted I said that I have see them both demoed, and verizon's old ptt service was faster than ready link, my experience wit ready link it was like damn near a 10 second delay.

posted on 14 Aug 2008, 22:15

27. (unregistered)

Sprint's Qchat and VZW PTT are pretty much the same thing, but Direct Connect is better than both of them.

posted on 15 Aug 2008, 12:20

32. JoeyStyles (Posts: 78; Member since: 11 May 2008)

Direct Connect is better because it is on all of the phone look if one of the wireless company would take a hint from Nextel, PTT works because it is on every deveice so unless one of the other majors begins to release all of there devices with a PTT feature then scrap it

posted on 13 Aug 2008, 16:50

14. (unregistered)

who would admit to being a fan of sprint/nextel unless they are a pathetic turd stuck working for them because their application at Verizon was denied for lack of intelligence. ????

posted on 16 Aug 2008, 19:59

41. (unregistered)

I worked for Verizon and I am also Highly educated. I also worked for sprint prior to that and have returned to sprint. Verizon has a lot of talented people in their sales force, However they do not have a lot of the right people in management as they tend to promote shady snaky sales reps based only on their inflated numbers. After that promotion the location gets to deal with all the lies and shady things that went on ie.. charge backs and customer service issues. I dealt with that crap for a year.

posted on 13 Aug 2008, 17:56

15. (unregistered)

Funny is Sprint is talking about selling IDEN off. IDEN is garbage compared to REV-A.

posted on 14 Aug 2008, 20:09

26. (unregistered)

Wow. That's just a downright misinformed statement. As far as PTT is concerned, REV A just doesn't measure up to IDEN. If you don't believe me, look it up. REV-A PTT is a big improvement from Verizon's earlier weak attempt at PTT, but in the real world, it just doesn't work as well.

posted on 15 Aug 2008, 12:21

33. JoeyStyles (Posts: 78; Member since: 11 May 2008)

you are right 32 but sprint is still trying to sell Iden

posted on 13 Aug 2008, 20:49

16. mkl4466 (unregistered)

To set the record straight... UTStarcom doesn't actually make any phones. They contract to other companies that actually own the factories (HTC, Pantech, Casio) just like Audiovox used to, except Audiovox used factories owned by toshiba and hyundai. A few years ago UTStarcom bought the rights to Audiovox branding. Anything that is "made" by UTstarcom is actually made by some other company but UTStarcom does all the paperwork as a liason between the carrier and the manufacturer and gets a cut of the sale. Thats why when Pantech first started making phones for US Verizon wouldn't carry them cus noone had ever heard of them VZW wanted recognizable brand names. UTstarcom got phones made by Pantech but put their label on them so Verizon would sell the handset. So the Gz'one line is made by Casio, just like they make the G'shock watches, but the g'zone boulder phone is labeled UTSC711. In the past you didn't see an HTC label on phones in the US (hence the XV6700). They weren't trying to build a recognizable brand in the US. Recently they decided to get their name known and get more US market share, so now you see the HTC label instead of UTstarcom on the high end PDAs.

posted on 13 Aug 2008, 21:11

17. (unregistered)

I think it would be cool if Motorola released a RAZR2 with the Casio Boulder specs.

posted on 27 Aug 2008, 23:58

44. (unregistered)

Motorola is coming out with the Renegade v950 - basically a RAZR2 ruggedized. Sorry just for Sprint. It does the Sprint music store and Sprint TV in addition to PTT.

posted on 13 Aug 2008, 22:46

19. (unregistered)

verizon has done it again way to go big red. thats why i am and always will be a vzw fanboy i dont care how gay that sounds im a proud sutomer of vzw

posted on 13 Aug 2008, 22:47

20. (unregistered)

err i mean customer not sutomer

posted on 14 Aug 2008, 15:30

23. Verzion sucks (unregistered)

Verzion has a long ways to go to compare to iden walkie talkie. Here are some facts about the Verzion push to talk: not international,5 second delay,verzion is voice over ip, and no off network walkie talkie service.

posted on 14 Aug 2008, 17:41

24. vzw gal (unregistered)

On a related note, did everyone hear that Sprint is looking to unload iDEN since it went a long way to kill any hope Sprint had at becoming a viable competitor in the market? iDEN is the only reason why many people are staying with Sprint. Once that's gone, Sprint is toast. Bottom line: Sprint has made itself a laughing stock with it's poor customer service and suffering iDEN coverage. People will have no reason to stay once that goes. VZW's new PTT is already pulling customer's away from Sprint. I'm pretty sure Sprint has some sweating to do.

posted on 14 Aug 2008, 20:03

25. (unregistered)

Don't you think one of the reasons Sprint may be looking into the possibility of selling off IDEN is that they now have their own REV A PTT service? You know, the one with more devices than VZW and the ability to PTT with Nextel. Think about it: they sell IDEN with the condition that they can maintain compatibility between Qchat and IDEN. They would keep their HUGE competitive advantage of being able to chirp the nearly 15 million IDEN subscribers while getting a much needed infusion of cash. Oh and as far as being a viable competitor: you are aware that they have about 52 million people using their services right? Also, the 37 million folks that are on Sprint CDMA probably won't leave when IDEN goes.

posted on 14 Aug 2008, 22:20

28. mkl4466 (unregistered)

Hey as for facts, you should get all of yours before you post. Five second delay is only in 1x coverage area. If both (or all on a group) parties on a PTT call are connected to EVDO network, its practically instant connection. And VZW covers over 85% of US pop with EVDO coverage. How does the iden network compare to that? 3rd times a charm, VZW finally got it right.

posted on 15 Aug 2008, 10:41

31. (unregistered)

but how much rev a coverage? they state in rev a coverage it is 2-3 seconds. iden is under 1 sec. qchat in demos ive seen working as fast as iden

posted on 15 Aug 2008, 12:24

34. JoeyStyles (Posts: 78; Member since: 11 May 2008)

True Iden is helping and Hurting them at the same time, it helps because Boost makes massive money, It hurts because Boost is not on a contract so they cant lock anyone in and also Moto makes terriable devices for the IDEN network and when they finally do come out with a good device they over price the damn thing for example the i930 is still 300 bucks on a contract WTF

posted on 15 Aug 2008, 12:27

35. JoeyStyles (Posts: 78; Member since: 11 May 2008)

I disagree, I think most of the IDEN people want to get out fast because of the network coverage and the price of devices comparing to everyone else, if they sell IDEN there will be alot of people running away and trying very hard (and probally getting away with) paying that ETF. they will go some where else and get a Blackberry of something because they can get a decent Pda/Smartphone for the same price or even less than a Decent IDEN phone

posted on 15 Aug 2008, 14:58

36. (unregistered)

That doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Most people who are still on IDEN are there because of the PTT. They need that function and also usually want something rugged. For the most part, these people aren't switching to a PDA because it isn't what they need. If it was, they could migrate over to Sprint's CDMA side WITHOUT paying the ETF and upgrade to a Mogul or Curve. If they haven't done that already, what makes you think they are going to shell out $200 bucks to get out? If the price of the device on IDEN is the problem (which I agree are way too high because Moto has no competition), the customer can switch to Sprint's Rev A PTT (without having to early terminate) and still have the benefit of being able to PTT with IDEN. They'd get their choice of rugged EVDO phones for less than the IDEN ones, too.

posted on 15 Aug 2008, 18:00

37. (unregistered)

used to work for radioshack and sold sprint and nextel there. probably the hardest thing to do is switch a nextel customer to sprint. the customer service department makes it ridiculous

posted on 16 Aug 2008, 00:37

38. (unregistered)

Not anymore. Now that the billing systems are combined, it's prety simple. The reason it was so hard for RS employees to port over was that Radioshack did not get paid for that transaction. Now they do, so the same barriers are not in place.

posted on 16 Aug 2008, 12:43

40. (unregistered)

When is some vzw emp/sub going to let these guys know about us millions of satisfied ptt'ers

posted on 22 Aug 2008, 20:16

43. (unregistered)

Vzw's ptt doesn't compare to Nextel or Sprint's DC, read the review on this site

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