Hands on with the Motorola Photon 4G
0. phoneArena 29 Jul 2011, 12:15 posted on
Motorola's newest superphone has landed, read on for our initial impression...
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1. Harry Greer (unregistered)
How is the screen quality? How does it compare to the Droid X2 and the Droid 3? If the screen does not look as bad as the X2, it sounds like the Bionic is going to be a pretty darn good phone.
2. Sniggly (Posts: 7183; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Could this phone save Motorola's reputation this year? With Sprint bleeding customers, I don't see the strongest sales, but I think it'll at least make a showing.
4. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5955; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Wasn't Sprint supposed to pick up pissed off customers from the AT&T-Mobile merger?
5. Sniggly (Posts: 7183; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Lol, theoretically, but it posted a bet loss of subscribers last quarter.
10. ngo2dd (Posts: 793; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)
"Sprint Nextel today reported that its second-quarter net loss widened to $847 million or $0.28 per share, from $760 million or $0.25 per share in the same quarter last year. However, the company added nearly 1.1 million total net wireless subscribers primarily driven by net prepaid subscriber additions (net postpaid additions for the Sprint brand were 275,000). The company achieved its best ever postpaid churn of 1.75 percent and the lowest prepaid churn in almost six years at 4.14 percent. The company continues to expect net postpaid subscriber additions for the full year 2011 and to improve total net wireless subscriber additions in 2011, as compared to 2010."
Networkdood was the poster not me.
44. You're A Tool (unregistered)
HA. Reading FAIL.
45. Sniggly (Posts: 7183; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Not quite, according to this.
If I'm wrong I'm wrong. But understand this: I rarely talk out of my ass.
54. danalmillan (Posts: 25; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)
What you may not realize is that Sprint only lost that many customers due to the premier plan changes and the $10 premium data smart phone charge. I expected to see Sprint drop because these changes ticked off a lot of people. If they are done with the major policy changes then I do not think they will lose customers at that high of a rate again! JMO though
37. Sniggly (Posts: 7183; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
As in the company that gained the most subscribers last quarter?
39. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
As in the company that bleeds customers dry.
41. Sniggly (Posts: 7183; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Yeah, can't disagree that their prices are high. But they also invest a hell of a lot into their network; last I checked, it was twice as much per year as AT&T does.
52. The Devil (unregistered)
AT&T put 1% back into their infrastructure versus Verizon's 10%. That's a lot more than double.
3. Newton122189 (unregistered)
How do you figure that it doesn't have Motorola Blur? Just because it has some Sprint ID app doesn't mean that the UI doesn't look different than stock Android. That UI is Motorola Blur, it might be slightly different than the version on the Droid 3 but it's not stock Android.
9. Allday28 (Posts: 274; Member since: 19 Nov 2010)
But its also not moto blur. Moto got rid of that..
14. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3042; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
I don't care what Motorola calls it, it's still Motoblur and you know it.
6. Tmachaveli (Posts: 425; Member since: 01 Apr 2011)
I think its going to be a great phone getting my Sunday can't wait
7. GALAXY-S (Posts: 701; Member since: 07 Jun 2011)
so far from what we were trained on this phone, its seems to be a very nice device and a bit oriented to business people too..
Its also global which is one of the nicest features of the phone!!
11. ngo2dd (Posts: 793; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)
Look at the battery? It is about to die, that is why it is laggy.
35. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5955; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
I haven't noticed lag on the EVO 3D. Last I checked, the EVO 3D used Android as its OS.
50. oddmanout (Posts: 435; Member since: 22 May 2009)
It was mostly laggy because the phone was just powered on... Most android phones lag within the first few minutes of it being booted. It has to upload and refresh data for certain applications.
13. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3042; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
Always with lag excuses. I have seen people with a FULL battery use this phone and it lags. I can understand single core phones lagging but with dual cores, its unacceptable.
I have been using the G2X for the past couple days now running with full stock 2.3 and a dual core processor. There is not one hint of lag, everything opens and closes instantly. The only thing that stutters any is on heavy based flash websites which the SGS2 has been the only phone to be able to at ease. Forget this phone, get the SGS2 when it comes out.
24. ngo2dd (Posts: 793; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)
So how did you see it being use? Do they work for Sprint or Motorola. Or a tech review site because it is not out yet?
15. KingK (unregistered)
So clueless, that's just boot up lag. Phone is fast and smooth.
Even SGS2 has lag in certain spots
It's like people talking about lag on Atrix, using one, I see no lag at all. Learn how to use a phone properly and stop passing on the same drivel when you've never spent a lot of time with a phone except at a store demo.
16. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3042; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
So you have used both devices right? Both the Photon and the SGS2 to know which one lags right? No I don't think so, I have never seen any SGS2 lag. This phone lags like crazy and theres no way this phone is as smooth and responsive during web browsing like the SGS2 is.
19. theBankRobber (unregistered)
So your saying you have played with this phone? It isn't even out yet so how could you have played with this phone? Why are you on here praising the SGSII, its a nice phone but myself and others are getting this phones because of its features. Say what u want about this phone but it will be a great phone.
21. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3042; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
Because I have owned and used the Droid 3. Similar phones with the same amount of lag. I know the Bionic and Photon will both lag while the SGS2 will completely outshine all of them. I have watched several videos of the SGS2 and people have put a lot of tests through it. They have ALL agreed that the SGS2 is lag free on every department.
25. ngo2dd (Posts: 793; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)
So you have not use the phone? So you just lied? Dude you are a troll. You know that the Droid 3 do not lag, because in the review we can clearly see it. The Bionic do not use a Tegra chip-set it use the OMAP chip-set like Droid 3. The Droid X2 use the Tegra and it does not lag. Wow you are a pure troll dude.
33. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3042; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
I never said I used the sgs2 I said I used the Droid 3 which also has a dual core processor. I said I watched many videos on the sgs2 and I can easily tell how much faster and smoother the sgs2 runs than this phone and every other phone. The closest I have seen is the g2x and its running stock 2.3 and that's probably why. All these custom skins just hog the memory and processor and cause the phones to lag.
All in all the sgs2 is better for those who want a lag free experience. I'm not saying this isn't a good phone it just doesn't compare.
40. cyborg (unregistered)
SGS2 don't lag and that coupled with bigger/better screen and android freedom made me jump ship from ip4.
17. joana27 (unregistered)
Honestly I don't care about this phone I'm using an unlocked Samsung galaxy s2 on at&t and guess what? No lag at all. My only complaint is at&t service is not that great over here in Los Angeles but that's another story.. anyways Samsung galaxy s2 all the freaking way!!
23. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3042; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
Yea let them settle for less and get this phone. If you want a lag free, super amoled plus gorgeous display and a great design. Get the SGS2 when it comes out on your carrier. Otherwise get this and have to root it and put a custom rom on it just to get the same experience!
28. Sniggly (Posts: 7183; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
God damn, Rory, you must really have it out for Motorola right now. Was the DROID 3 a disappointment or something?
Conversely, I decided to go for broke and put a live wallpaper on my Atrix- lag free on the home screen. Granted, it's only Matrix rain, probably not very graphically demanding, but still, you can't write the Bionic off yet. Why? The key difference between it, the Atrix and the DROID 3: the amount of RAM. The 3 only has 512 legs of RAM, the Bionic and the Atrix have a gig each.
34. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3042; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
Its not Motorola its everyone. IMO the sgs2 is the only dual core phone that lives up to being dual core. Side by side with my Droid x and the Droid 3 there wasn't much at all improvement other lagging and such. It wasn't horrible by any means but I expected it to be really snappy like the sgs2. I know I sound like a troll or fanboy. I just expected much more out of a dual core phone. I mainly blame it on the custom skins. It seems like Samsung found the weak spot of android and fixed it. The phone is amazingly fast and I hoped that other dual core phones would be the same.
42. Sniggly (Posts: 7183; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
How fast the processor can clip through a task means very little if the RAM isn't up to par. My experience with higher amounts of RAM (768 on the Sensation, a gig on the Atrix) has been virtually lag free.
Now, the SGS 2 may actually be the best of them all. But like I said, you can't write off the Bionic, with twice the RAM as the 3, because of your experience on the latter.
18. forgednfire (Posts: 5; Member since: 03 May 2011)
I personally don't set too much weight with what the phone does before it is rooted and has a custom rom on it. It does give an indication of what it can do but until I have done some custom magic on it you can't tell what it will be like. I have cm7 on my droid x and my girls Fascinate and there is ZERO lag on them whatsoever. At stock speeds the droid x pulls 2500+ on quadrant and the fascinate blows it away with 3200 plus. The internet on each is insanely fast and using Vellamo web browser benchmark the fascinate scores better than the Atrix 4g. These phone are getting pretty old but due to the incredible devs out there they still put up numbers that rival newer phones.
20. thedude884 (unregistered)
A coworker is a Sprint premier customer and got the phone today and I must say te phone is better looking than any other 4g android device I've seen. Its solid in the hand, the screen is very bright and sharp, the reception is above average, and the interface is clean and snappy. Honestly Motorola has really hit the mark with their new phones. The average consumer will never root their phones or care that they can tweak things to get higher quadrant scores. They care about cost, looks, stability, and form factor. The Bionic will be leaps and bounds better than the HTC thunderbolt or Droid charge, its just sad that they0 will be overshadowed by bigger brands putting out thinner flashier but 3g onlphones. Apple has said that an LTE iPhone would force them to make design choices that they're not willing to make at this time. The iPhone 5 can be 3g and nobody will care simply because its apple's latest and greatest
22. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3042; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
Leaps and bounds better the thunderbolt and charge? Well I would hope that a android phone running 2.3 and a dual core processor would be better than one running 2.2 and with a single core processor.
26. Syvart (unregistered)
I have spent a lot of time with this phone. There is a lot of lag. When you zoom in and out of pictures the lag is horrible. Scrolling apps or swiping screens will lag a little. I don't like the screen quality and the major complaint is when zooming in on a picture most of the time it will start to rotate. You have to be very careful to move your fingers in a straight line the slightest divination will rotate instead.
Very annoying. I am waiting for the galaxy S2.
27. Phonecall01 (Posts: 177; Member since: 02 Apr 2009)
EVO 3D is a better buy. Played with both. Sense is soooooooo much smoother!
46. kstagg (Posts: 7; Member since: 04 Jul 2011)
I have the EVO3D. Probably trading mine in tomorrow for the Photon. I like the EVO, but no need for the 3D aspect of it. I like the 16GB of RAM, no ugly bulging lens to worry about scratching, worldphone features, built in kickstand, gorilla glass, just over all look of this phone than the EVO3D.
Like I said - no trying to troll - htc made a good phone, but think that they could have gone farther and "jumped the shark" with the 3D trip.
43. Sniggly (Posts: 7183; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
If it's bad and it's high end Moto, then it is news. Motorola hasn't had a bad high end model since 2009.
31. kingjr243 (Posts: 31; Member since: 06 Jun 2011)
this coming out before the Bionic
32. phonearenapirate (unregistered)
"With dual cameras, 1080p capabilities and a beautiful display the Photon 4G should be a multimedia powerhouse."
guys, you may want to recheck the specs. there is one camera which does only 720p video recording.
38. rwolf1984 (Posts: 519; Member since: 06 Jun 2009)
nice phone...16 gb internal and 10 hour battery...
47. yungmel0 (Posts: 34; Member since: 18 Jun 2011)
As much as I want this phone I seen it lag in the unboxing video that was posted. I'm still in a toss up between my EVO 3D and this one I mean I only have one upgrade and these are the only two bad asses on Sprint rite now. Can some one please give me a clue on which one to get. Do I stick with the 3D or jump ship for the Photon 4g???
51. thatguy (unregistered)
look i have the evo 3d and really the only way i would trade it in is for the sgs2 or the iphone 5 because if you look at it there both the same phone (photon and Evo). The only thing the photon has over the evo is more memory and unless you plan on downloading like 20 movies on your phone that's not that big of a deal the 8gibite should be enough for you plus you can extended to 32 and the other thing is world phone so if you travel alto outside the usa you should get this phone right now if not there now need for you to switch
plus if you look at the build design its good but plasticy in the front compared to the evo which has metal. But im not gonna bush this phone because its a good phone but not worth switching from my evo3d.
48. Rustem (unregistered)
Hi. Sorry for noob's question but can this phone be used with other GSM carrier's SIM-card (in case the phone will be unlocked)? Thanks.
49. Sniggly (Posts: 7183; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Probably not, because the phone is primarily REMAIN, and the GSM function on it needs to be specifically enabled for it to work on Sprint's international roaming partners.
53. CobaltBlue (unregistered)
I used the Photon over the weekend and I don't see any lag whatsoever. It's much faster than the Droid X, Droid Charge, or HTC Thunderbolt. Between the dual core processor, the new Gingerbread software and the 1 GB RAM, the phone is very responsive.
Also, we tested the phone in a known weak area, and the phone was getting very good reception. Motorola may not be known for amazing screen, but they can build one heck of a phone for clear calls, reception, powerful speakerphones, and durable build quality. The new software is a clear improvement over the old MotoBlur.
Sure Samsung makes great phones and the Galaxy S II has an edge with it's screen and processor, but the plastic housing doesn't inspire confidence, and TouchWiz, even in it's latest form is no better than Motorola's software. The Galaxy S II discussion is irrelevant though until they finally release it to US carriers, and it is proven better than this. For all we know, Samsung stripped the Galaxy S II of some features to accomodate the CDMA + Wimax chipset or perhaps it isn't a world phone. Until there are some confirmed specs, it's way too soon to say that this phone is going to set the standard when it's released.
Bottom line, the Photon is a very sleek powerful device, and it's nice to see Sprint getting the same high quality of devices that Verizon has been getting from Motorola since the original Droid.
55. JayQ330 (Posts: 21; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)
"Though Motorola may have some trouble getting one of their premium devices to market, they are right on time with the Photon 4G for Sprint." i guess it only proves that its verizon causing the delays, the photon & the *1st gen* bionic are the same phone & sprint brought out there version before verizons even after a year of its exposure.