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HTC's Nexus 8 tablet to be an Android L poster boy: 64-bit Tegra, 4 GB of RAM and 8 MP camera

0. phoneArena 08 Aug 2014, 04:08 posted on

We were wondering what's up with the Nexus 8, or the rumored premium Google tablet, made by HTC, and today a barrage of leaks might be hinting at an encroaching announcement. First we have a source claiming that the tablet, which has been referred to as Volantis or Flounder so far, is codenamed T1, and will feature an 8 MP rear camera, alongside 1.6 MP front-facer. A little digging in the tablet's firmware has also returned the unsurprising fact that it will ship with Android L out of the box, without any HTC Sense overlay shenanigans...

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posted on 08 Aug 2014, 04:18 3

1. salaal (Posts: 109; Member since: 08 Dec 2013)

Definitely going to get it if priced at 450$

posted on 08 Aug 2014, 06:29 6

18. sam_tek (Posts: 105; Member since: 18 Feb 2011)

I'll definitely sell you one if you are going to pay 450 for it! :)

posted on 08 Aug 2014, 12:38

41. torr310 (Posts: 1032; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)

I don't get it. HTC didn't catch the era when tablet was booming but starts to make it when the market is diminishing. Their executives should make more accurate decisions.

posted on 08 Aug 2014, 12:56

42. Tsoliades (Posts: 228; Member since: 22 Dec 2012)

Agreed. This tablet looks fantastic.

posted on 08 Aug 2014, 04:22 7

2. crestfallen (Posts: 23; Member since: 03 Apr 2014)

Why metal chassis? It's possible to make it feel premium without it. I think most people would prefer beastly innards than a premium look. It only made the tablet more expensive and not affordable like what Nexus tablets are known for.

posted on 08 Aug 2014, 05:09 2

9. nodes (Posts: 756; Member since: 06 Mar 2014)

yes, nexus device should be a cheap-device rather than a premium-expensive one.
google should go for Silver instead.

posted on 08 Aug 2014, 11:36

35. Settings (Posts: 2257; Member since: 02 Jul 2014)

Nexus should be made affordable

posted on 08 Aug 2014, 11:37

36. The-Sailor-Man (banned) (Posts: 1095; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)

Nexus line was NEVER meant and will NEVER be a top-end device. Otherwise OEMs will not make it.
It's meant to be GREAT AFFORDABLE device. Nothing else.
The ignorant tech media shtick this "premium Nexus" nonsense every now and then , though. LOL
Oooh, and they never miss the "premium aluminun" tin can iMantra. And the i64 bit BS.

posted on 08 Aug 2014, 11:42 1

37. RandomUsername (Posts: 808; Member since: 29 Oct 2013)

Maybe it's gonna be a Silver device.

posted on 08 Aug 2014, 11:43

38. The-Sailor-Man (banned) (Posts: 1095; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)

That's what Nexus is meant for, and will ALWAYS be.
Do not listen the ignorant tech media.

posted on 08 Aug 2014, 14:09 2

45. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1516; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)

I don't know where you got "Nexus line was never meant and never will be a top device" from. While the Nexus line has traditionally been targeted towards developers, they've also made sure their devices are on the top end. In fact, that's why the Nexus devices have traditionally been based off of OEM's flagship devices. I mean if we take a look back in history, there have even been a few times where the Nexus devices were better than the flagship devices offered by the manufacturer.

The Nexus S was based on the Galaxy S, but showcased a much better design. The Galaxy Nexus was supposed to be based off of the SII internals but also had a much more premium design to it than the SII (all the way down to the slight curvature of the screen). Google took the MemoPad developed by Asus and added better internals and a different textured back to make it a premium device over the regular 7 inch tablet that cost $150.

Do you even remember that the Nexus 10, which hard to believe it was released 2 years ago, was the first tablet to have the 2560x1600 resolution? It was better than the Galaxy tablet it was based off both in terms of the screen resolution and also the internals (it featured the first dual-core A15 Exynos chipset with a Mali-T604 GPU). It's still being offered by Google today because the internals were so far ahead of it's time. I have one myself and it still is a great performer even by today's standards.

So, I disagree with your statement that Nexus devices are not meant to be top of the line. While they offer some cheaper devices to get consumers to look at Android devices (i.e. the Nexus 7), they also offer premium devices to showcase what Android is capable of. And you should take this as a good thing, because if the rumors are true about this Nexus 8 tablet then it will mean you as the consumer will benefit. If the Nexus 8 is able to offer a premium design with premium internals at a price that undercuts other tablets on the market (like the Galaxy Tab S 8.4) it will mean manufacturers will try to compete by offering a better device at a competitive price. So you as a consumer will win in the end.

posted on 09 Aug 2014, 11:39

54. gmatthias973 (Posts: 3; Member since: 09 Aug 2014)

I've been buying nexus since the nexus one which was also made by HTC and it was about $550 and the Nexus S was about $530. I have no idea where you guys are getting this Nexus=Cheap stuff

posted on 08 Aug 2014, 04:29 2

3. juandante (Posts: 605; Member since: 23 Apr 2013)

"Tegra" ... The most important part

posted on 08 Aug 2014, 04:56

6. renz4 (Posts: 319; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)

why is it so?

posted on 08 Aug 2014, 06:34 4

19. vincelongman (Posts: 4935; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)

Not sure what he means
But I'm happy they are going with Nvidia this time because Qualcomn hasn't been improving their chips much this year
The 801 is basically an overclocked 800
The 805 is a small improvement over the 801

Now the K1 currently the most powerful CPU/GPU by a good margin, until the Apple's A8, Samsung's next Exynos, or the 64-bit K1 (which is in the rumor)

posted on 08 Aug 2014, 04:35 4

4. AlikMalix (unregistered)

And somehow, Apple's Latest iPad will be faster with half the specs... (sorry I had to, not many Apple users here)...

posted on 08 Aug 2014, 04:56 22

7. joey_sfb (Posts: 6446; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)

Also half the functionality and flexibility of a true multi threaded 64-bits Android mobile OS.

I hope the new unified windows would be a worthy challenge. iOS and wp8 made some sacrifices to run smooth on low end ARM SOC

posted on 08 Aug 2014, 04:56 3

8. rahul.niks (Posts: 86; Member since: 31 Oct 2013)

With nexus 8 having double the specs and half the price, also with 64-bit and 4GB ram, i bet it won't be much slower(if slower)

posted on 08 Aug 2014, 05:11

10. nodes (Posts: 756; Member since: 06 Mar 2014)

does specs really matter if the real-world performance not up to the specs?
64-bit blah blah blah, if the app itself is not fully optimized yet, those "double specs" would go to the bin.

posted on 08 Aug 2014, 05:21 2

11. AlikMalix (unregistered)

Half of functionality? I keep asking those that say iOS is limited how much more can you do on "Open" Android device that I cannot do on my iOS device?

I'm a contractor, that likes mobile games (Racing, Shooters, and Base Attack Games, as well as Sandbox types), I also use iPad for image editing, video editing, drawing things.

I need access to all my music, files, photos, and videos (1TB of data) at all times from anywhere.

I use iPad for invoicing, and contract write-up as well as drafting/drawing details of the project. I need all that to work seamlessly between phone and tablet. I need an assistant to remind me to pick up something at Hardware store when I'm near, call a customer, or pick up groceries when I'm passing a store. I need video conferencing with clients and office to point out details of the project live.

I need my phone to have latest for at least 3 years (I dont switch them like pants), and I need a local office/store with someone who's trained good enough to assist me anytime during any day with any questions on any feature on my devices. I need to access my cloud information from any computer. I need to navigate to all my apps at any given time without shoveling thru bloat.

Just like you, I unlock my phone a thousand times a day - I do not want to type in my password each time. I need my battery to last thru 8 hours of heavy use. And I need to control my notifications to not be a pesky nusense and ONLY give me info when I need it.

I can do all that with my useless iPhone and more... can you think of one thing your choice of a mobile device can do for me that will make it a more functional then mine?

posted on 08 Aug 2014, 05:25

12. AlikMalix (unregistered)

I play quite a few games that are optimized for 64bit now, and my fingerprint sensor is quick and accurate thanks to 64bit, my camera does awesome smooth slow motion videos thanks to 64bit. my OS and all that's featured is optimized to handle everything 64bit regardless if it's avalable now, or next year, or 3 years later - I can keep my phone and not worry if just in-case something comes out that requires 64bit in near future - my phone is ready....

posted on 08 Aug 2014, 05:29 1

13. AlikMalix (unregistered)

Also, I can do most of required tasks thru the day without unlocking my phone or even looking at the screen...

Siri was available to do most tasks on the phone about 3 years before Google Now. And in case I prefer Google Now - I can have that too, or any Google service you can point out...


posted on 08 Aug 2014, 05:56

14. AlikMalix (unregistered)

And there are details within every feature that I enjoy on iOS, that many just skip over. For example, if i'm talking to another client who's using "have-as-useful" iPhone (as you say), or even iPad, or iPod (I call iPods and iPads thru email) I can switch to video (facetime) within a call without hanging up, you have no idea the convenience this makes. Unlike if I'm talking to customer on a "fully capable" Android Phone, I have to direct them to install, Tango or something just to point out a certain detail of the project.

Or while driving, use siri to send a text, verify what it says, change it if necessary, send it. and when there's a reply, have it read, and have the option to reply, review it and send it --- all without the need to look at a screen, not even to initialize siri, or texting... then take a note for me and set up a reminder all without looking.

Most Android phones will require a certain gesture on the screen to bring up Google Now otherwise you may get a S-voice (u-ugh).

Can some androids do some things more conveniently, yes. I will even agree that Google Now understands my speech better then Siri. But it will take several Android devices to give me all the things that people say that Android does that Apple cannot:
Nexus for OS updates and bloat free or near bloat free OS
HTC for camera in dark areas
Samsung for fingerprint sensor (assuming they'll improve accuracy like apple did)
LG or Sony for Design
Note for speed and battery duration (but the size too big to haul around)
and etc...
and then each one has their bad and good details.

And I still haven't seen one Android phone that has a UI design that feels light, crisp, with natural gestures and layout that disappears leaving only function and presentation of content. Everything on android feels like they got stuck in 2009: iOS 3-ish.

Sorry for all the consecutive posts, it bugs me when people suggest that just because they can change a font on their phone, suddenly iDevices are useless...

posted on 08 Aug 2014, 06:21 7

17. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)

Assuming the final version of L won't be well optimized, which is pretty much impossible to say at this point. Even in it's preview stages, L is already shaping up to be an incredibly optimized OS, in terms of battery life and performance. Now that ART and 64 bit are coming standard in L, performance on Android will be better than ever. Even if developers don't optimize for 64 bit right away, the Tegra K1 is still a beastly SoC on it's own and will take on any game or app on the Play Store with ease. Then there's also the extreme battery savings that will only get better as L matures into the final version. On the preview, people are already seeing a 30% increase in battery life.

L is the most well designed and optimized version of Android yet. And since this is the first Android update that's been given a preview before the official release, manufacturers have been able to work on their own versions of it ahead of time, which will make for quick updates, even on skinned devices. L makes 2014 the best year for Android yet, and I can't wait to get it.

posted on 08 Aug 2014, 06:58 5

20. Taters (banned) (Posts: 6474; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)

Um no it won't. My Nexus 5 and HTC One etc beat my 5s in just about every speed test so I doubt the new ipad will be beating this in anything.

Unless of course HTC screws this up somehow like they usually do.

posted on 08 Aug 2014, 07:32 1

22. sniper1087 (Posts: 530; Member since: 31 Dec 2011)

There are hybrid laptops like the Asus T100, dell venues 11 pro, Acer aspires switch 10, that are cheaper and are full fledge computers that have way more functionality over any iPads or android tablets since it lets you install x86 applications and some with additional features on the keyboard like 500GB HHD and or an additional battery.

posted on 08 Aug 2014, 07:36

24. medicci37 (Posts: 1327; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)

Idk about art yet. I've already switched to art but haven't noticed any performance gains

posted on 08 Aug 2014, 07:53 5

26. joey_sfb (Posts: 6446; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)

Can your iPad run multi windows of apps on the same screen, such as video conference with your customers while having another window on PowerPoint and another one on pdf price list plus if need be start another thread downloading some files in the background?

I know you like your iPhone iPad and they are great devices but can they replace your multi threaded Mac OS X? Android is multi threaded with that potential if their user choose to use it like that provide the device has a high end specification such as Note Pro 12.2

posted on 08 Aug 2014, 07:59

27. JakeLee (banned) (Posts: 1021; Member since: 02 Nov 2013)

Plus you don't have to worry about security.

I'm disadvising EVERY Android user from using IB apps.

posted on 08 Aug 2014, 08:23 2

29. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)

In the current version of ART, it's very slight, because it's a beta version. That's why the option to turn it on is buried in the developer settings and Dalvik was still the default runtime. But in L it's fully developed, and Dalvik is no longer an option. With the finished version of ART in L, Google claims 3 times the speed compared to Dalvik in KitKat, and Google's claims so far have actually been outdone. Google only claimed a 15-20% increase in battery life from Project Volta, but in the preview of L people are reporting 30%. So that 3x speed Google has set for ART doesn't seem to be that out of reach.

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