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HTC vs Samsung: Why HTC is losing the fight big time

0. phoneArena 09 Aug 2012, 05:48 posted on

Up until recently, HTC meant much more than it means now in the Android universe. It was a big factor. HTC's smartphones stood for quality, reliability and experience that are unmatched by any other Android manufacturer...

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posted on 09 Aug 2012, 06:47

24. pkiran1996 (Posts: 166; Member since: 22 Oct 2011)


Lol I've not heard anyone mention LG in a long time

posted on 09 Aug 2012, 07:02 2

31. Mittal (Posts: 493; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)


yup! I dont see any other company than Apple and Samsung to be having a gala time in the smartphone scene currently!(Not talking of quality of the devices here)
I wonder if i am wrong to say that Moto and LG are having a tougher time than HTC at the global level ryt now.
PA you should do similar articles for LG, SONY, MOTOROLA also!

posted on 09 Aug 2012, 08:43 4

62. ladyhaly (Posts: 106; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


But choose a different writer. Someone who would bother to do proper in-depth research. Because, seriously, if I wrote a half-hearted uninformed article like this, I would probably question where my heart is.

posted on 09 Aug 2012, 09:28 1

84. ryq24 (Posts: 738; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


yup! you know you have a problem when everyone is talking about iphone or samsung or htc or even nokia or blackberry or sony but no one seems to even mention anything about lg.

posted on 09 Aug 2012, 05:59 4

3. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)


I had no idea......HTC is the third company I'd go to after Sony and Moto....the htc one s is actually the phone I'd been thinking about getting for a while now....Sad to hear that....Hope sony can help them out in some way

posted on 09 Aug 2012, 08:44 1

63. ladyhaly (Posts: 106; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


I hope HTC and Sony team up to produce one hell of a superphone for 2012.

posted on 09 Aug 2012, 06:00 8

4. yowanvista (Posts: 340; Member since: 20 Sep 2011)


Obviously since their products are plagued with various issues like the Multitasking Bug (HTC calls it a 'feature'), design flaws, WiFi issues and their recent update 4.0.4 that disables root. Not to mention their horrible Sense UI and the fact that their flagship device has no removal storage.. Way to go HTC..

posted on 09 Aug 2012, 06:41 2

17. IamYourFather6657 (Posts: 321; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)


Do your think the regular consumers . The one that keep the companies alive , care about all these ? Most android phones consumers don't even know what's root

posted on 09 Aug 2012, 07:06 4

32. Mittal (Posts: 493; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)


yes, but why disable root!

posted on 09 Aug 2012, 08:48 2

64. ladyhaly (Posts: 106; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


ALL updates have the strong possibility to disable root. Do you even know what you're talking about? ALL. That's why if you want to keep your root on a stock ROM and a update pops up, you highly consider waiting for word on developers if root is possible the old way if a new one has to be done.

As far as I know, all devices on rooted stock ROM that are updated will have to re-root. And I know what I'm talking about because I've rooted my ChaCha way back in February.

So let me ask you this--- do you know what you're complaining about?

posted on 09 Aug 2012, 09:28 1

83. iliketech (Posts: 75; Member since: 17 Aug 2011)


Yea, i like that... ha
I agree whole heartily...
you update using a HTC update you have to re-root...
makes sense, no pun intended...

posted on 09 Aug 2012, 08:53

65. ladyhaly (Posts: 106; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


Also, it's not that hard to root something if you know how to do it. :)

The fact is I think your problem is that the update caused your bootloader to re-lock and your root to be nulled.

All updates to the device does that, sunshine. You have to unlock the bootloader again and re-root. Please do get yourself informed before complaining. You have to know the system--- you have to know how to things work.

Because you can't demand the whole world to make it convenient for you especially when it's YOU who chose to update your rooted stock ROM.

posted on 09 Aug 2012, 09:31 1

85. iliketech (Posts: 75; Member since: 17 Aug 2011)


Hey, i agree again...
All updates (from HTC or prob. AT&T) WILL cause user to re-apply customization's.... period... kinda like when people flashed the DirectTV cards and then they/DirectTV sent out a update over the air, then everybody that had 3rd party update had to re-program their card...
think about it...

posted on 09 Aug 2012, 07:40 1

40. Nokia-Arte (banned) (Posts: 42; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)


I own one and it use to lag, sense was ram hog take's up 80mbeki
of ram, running I'm, Skype, System Update, Dolphin, System Tuner Pro,
and 5 other apps, there was only 270Mb ram left, when browsing
opening 2 tabs ram use to drop to 100mb and it lags. After rooting
this it was much better smooth, overclocking it to 1.9ghz.....

posted on 09 Aug 2012, 08:55

66. ladyhaly (Posts: 106; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


What device did you own? I've owned four HTCs. The only one I had to unlock bootloader and root to satisfy me was the ChaCha because it had low internal memory.

No--- it didn't lag. Nor did my Desire HD, HTC Sensation XE, or my One X.

The problem with the ChaCha was the low internal memory (150 MB user-available) and, being app crazy as I am, I couldn't install as many apps as I wanted.

posted on 09 Aug 2012, 08:18 1

53. denied911 (banned) (Posts: 361; Member since: 31 May 2012)


i had 2 updates on sgs3 and both disabled my root, so i had to root my phone 3 times
it is classic

posted on 09 Aug 2012, 08:56 3

67. ladyhaly (Posts: 106; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


It's just the way phones work. It's the system. The manufacturers issue updates for non-rooted phones. Rooting is easy enough if you know how to do it anyway.

posted on 09 Aug 2012, 06:00 2

5. loken (Posts: 462; Member since: 09 May 2012)


Because they promise updates and then they say
"We rather not delete your data for your phone to update"
and there goes Desire HD..
I like Htc i really do i like sense .. but !! learn from sony for updating
just wait , htc one x wont get 4.3...

posted on 09 Aug 2012, 09:00

69. ladyhaly (Posts: 106; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


I will explain something to you.

Deleting user-data for the phone to update to a heavy ROM PLUS partition issues made the Desire HD un-upgradeable to ICS. HTC figured out that that isn't the way users expect updates from them. I have updated my 4 HTC phones for the last two years over and over again and have never lost any data.

Now--- doing that... That's similar to just flashing an ICS ROM to the Desire HD, isn't it? And since the update will happen over-the-air (OTA), they can't possibly promise users a solid, bug-free experience.

Seriously... It amazes me how dense people get.

posted on 09 Aug 2012, 10:25 1

103. gwuhua1984 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)


Even so, HTC should release RUU to the dev communities. People should have a choice as to what they want to do on their device when it comes to upgrading.

posted on 09 Aug 2012, 06:02 9

6. hung2900 (Posts: 956; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)


Problems of HTC? Brand recognition (to many flagship phones with ridiculous name while Samsung has only 3 flagship classes: Galaxy S, Note and Nexus), marketing problem. About OX, the lack of micro-SD card slot and removable battery (accompany with not very good battery usage) are two main issues, not only from HTC Sense (In fact a lot of people love it)

posted on 09 Aug 2012, 06:55 4

29. IamYourFather6657 (Posts: 321; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)


I love sense

posted on 09 Aug 2012, 07:08 2

33. Mittal (Posts: 493; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)


even i do!
The HTC Salsa has hardly done well commercially, but even at 800Mz, it is very smooth and seems well optimized!
Sense looks and feels gr8!

posted on 09 Aug 2012, 07:38

39. mrbtree98 (Posts: 50; Member since: 04 Aug 2012)


the htc chacha is also very very smooth.

posted on 09 Aug 2012, 07:56 1

46. Nokia-Arte (banned) (Posts: 42; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)


And there Ram hungry.

posted on 09 Aug 2012, 09:01 2

71. ladyhaly (Posts: 106; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


I love Sense too. It's the only reason why I keep going back to HTC. I've looked into Samsungs, Sonys, LGs, and even Motos.... and I just can't forget Sense. That's how convenient it is.

Even the guy from Smartphonepedia left his S3 in favor of the One X.

posted on 09 Aug 2012, 09:42 2

86. iliketech (Posts: 75; Member since: 17 Aug 2011)


I got rid of my One x because I couldn't navigate between apps smoothly... when at a web page and going to contacts app and back it would put me somewhere else previous to where I was (for example at a log in page)... I couldn't stand the Onex after using it for about a month, I sold it... It handled app navigation like the old Apple iphone... that was the knock against Apple back then and why Android phones had the advantage... Well, the One x brought me back to that stage, that I didn't want to go... Hello Samsung Note, and Nexus...
AND,
and the One x power button is not even/level, it is kinda like a curved edge making it Way Harder to push on/off especially with a case on phone - which I always use... So, I had to kinda wrap my hand around the phone to power it on/off... what a pain.!

posted on 09 Aug 2012, 10:28

105. gwuhua1984 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)


Made me curious, what kind of case were you using on the phone. I think on/off on the phone was very manageable already, and didn't even make a difference after I put on my seidio case.

posted on 09 Aug 2012, 11:22

112. SherlockHolmes (Posts: 125; Member since: 10 Apr 2012)


Then please change your Profile Pic to Samsung !!

posted on 09 Aug 2012, 12:32

123. phoenixpr (Posts: 167; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)


Agree with hung2900: "lack of micro-SD card slot and removable battery (accompany with not very good battery usage) are two main issues, not only from HTC Sense (In fact a lot of people love it)"

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