HTC to consider making four changes including the use of MediaTek chips for low to mid-range models
0. phoneArena 26 Oct 2013, 02:42 posted on
Nomura Securities is one of the top investment houses in the Asian region; a published report on Friday explains four changes that HTC is considering in order to turn things around. First, to recap, last quarter, the company reported its first quarterly operating loss ever. While CEO Peter Chou recently gave back some of his marketing duties to Chairwoman Cher Wang, Chou said that the problem with HTC was with its low to mid-range models...
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1. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
What about the marketing? You can't sell well without a good marketing, I can't see a single ad of HTC phones on TV and billboards.
If HTC don't improve the marketing, Here's To Change will become Hold The Crap.
8. amats69 (Posts: 1217; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)
Marketing is part of the first plan.Chairwoman Wang is now incharcge of it...I just Hope Mrs Wang made a change on HTC's poor MArketing.
19. Birds (Posts: 1086; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
Yes, marketing and pricing are their main issues. Like why would they price the HTC One at 575$ then turn around and price the HTC One mini at 515$ You might as well cough up the extra 60 dollars for a much more well executed phone. The spec difference between the phones is what makes it a bad deal. They could have stayed the dual core route, just put an Adreno 320 (Instead of 305) coupled with 2 gigs of ram. And I haven't seen any AT&T commercials about the HTC One Mini. And I beleive the HTC One Max will flop...Sorry, as hard core a fan I am of HTC, the device only filled a super size screen niche not a phablet niche and due to that, It is not a competitor to the Galaxy Note 3. It is a competitor to the Galaxy Mega 6.3 which it has similar specs to it. But, you know, this is HTC's first attempt in the phablet space so this device, whether it was HTC's intent or not, is being pitted against the Galaxy Note 3.... Especially with its 800$ pricing...
2. D.Aceveda (Posts: 366; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)
I think HTC of 2012 had a good plan. The One X, S, and V were great and made sense. A high end flag ship, mid tier, and budget model. Til this day I love the One X more than the current One.
Also variation is a GOOD THING. Sprint had its own One X variant (Evo 4G LTE)
Why did HTC go with a "One phone fits all approach"
5. Mittal (Posts: 489; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)
i hear you sir!
HTC 2012 lineup was great! Personally i also find the One X and even One S design better than the current One (i actually fail to see the reason behind the hype behind the One).... I have the One S and to me its the best !
Also, making different design phones is a good idea than to be making different sized knock offs of the flagships.. i hate that practice!!
24. amats69 (Posts: 1217; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)
I owned htc one x b4 and currently i have the htc one. Dude one x is a good phone but not as good as the htc one..one x still have lags while one got a buttery smooth experience..design wise they have both fantastic design.given because htc really have a beautiful phone eversince.but i still prefer the aluminum design of the one.
3. woodshop20 (Posts: 459; Member since: 14 Sep 2013)
To all you Mediatek bashers: It's not meant to compare with the likes of Exynos and Snapdragon. Their CPUs offer decent performance at an absurdly cheap price. If Mediatek weren't to exist, then we'd have a monopoly like there is right now in the desktop market, allowing Qualcomm to unjustifiably drive up their prices.
If you don't like their chipsets, don't buy phones with them! But expect to pay a lot more for a slight increase in performance.
6. Mittal (Posts: 489; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)
uhh... i thumbed you up for that but i could not find a post above bashing MT while writing this... you should have waited for an appropriate time :P
7. woodshop20 (Posts: 459; Member since: 14 Sep 2013)
Sorry, preemptive strike as the comment was bound to appear.
9. o0Exia0o (Posts: 451; Member since: 01 Feb 2013)
Ya, I hate mediatek also. Such crappy proformance. I mean they are built in chineese sweat shops for god sakes! Who in thier right mind would use......
I mean.....Oh sorry.
I just had to after what you said. LMFAO ;P
40. artealis (Posts: 98; Member since: 15 Dec 2010)
yeah same with your expensive shiny apple iphone, all parts made by chinese, built and assembled by chinese
the proccesor 64bit wow, produce by taiwanese manufacture which is also a chinese.
who in their right mind will buy and use that??
10. D.Aceveda (Posts: 366; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)
MT chips are good for what they are. Make no mistake they are budget oriented SoCs.
They're octa-core chip uses 8, A7 based cores which in terms of speed is only as fast as a quad core A15 based chip.
That being said. I think they would be great in low end and maybe in mid tier phones but MT still has a while to go til they are a direct competitor performance wise with Qualcomm, Nvidia, Samsung etc
16. taikucing (unregistered)
Mediatek is not only weak in CPU performance, but also GPU performance and has GPS & and heat problem. Why doesn't HTC use Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 play? Qualcomm entry level CPUs are cheaper now. Even some cheap Chinese phones are starting to use Qualcomm instead of MTK. I see some $120 Chinese phones that use dual core Snapdragon S4 in my country. Even $200 Lenovo A706 uses quad core Snapdragon.
30. jibraihimi (Posts: 708; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)
I assume that you had used mediatek based phones, and speaking about those chips based on your experience, if you haven't used mediatek based phones then stop being a troll...... I'm using Mediatek Mtk6589 based phone, and till now I haven't faced any problem with the phone, it ran every application out there in play store, and all the highend games without any hiccups, till now never faced any heating problem with my device, only issue that you can assign with mediatek based chips are Gps issue, apart from gps everything works fine, and for the price points at which mediatek phones are available in my country, I will say that mediatek based phones are awesome, if you purchase phones of big companies in under 200$, then always be ready for the lags that will come with those phones, but nothing of that sort in mediatek based phones, and I had also tried lots of launchers and different ROM's on this phone without any issue...........
22. PBXtech (Posts: 997; Member since: 21 Oct 2013)
Not only that, but if Google does make Android 4.4+ run better on lower spec equipment, then this move is solidified even more. If not, it's still only going to be used for low to mid-end models so performance matches the price point. All of these moves look good, nice to see HTC being proactive and gearing up for a better future.
4. jibraihimi (Posts: 708; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)
Hope they will price their Low and midrange models decently, if they are going to use mediatek processors in their phone, because currently their low and midrange model'd pricing in country like India is very absurd...........
11. tiara6918 (Posts: 1897; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)
Bring back the sensation, rhyme and wildfire. With just the right strategy, these products would be a hit
13. Mittal (Posts: 489; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)
Rhyme was actually a very good phone. But killed by the decision to keep the price sky high!
12. Andrewtst (Posts: 413; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
Without marketing, you still going to die pretty soon.
14. kanagadeepan (Posts: 751; Member since: 24 Jan 2012)
Its because of their pricing, they are a failure in India... Even if they are going to use mediatek chips I don't think they will price their phones reasonably...
17. taikucing (unregistered)
yeah, I think the problem of HTC is the pricing. Many Chinese phones are using Qualcomm CPU now but they are still cheap. Lenovo A706 uses Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 play & 1 GB RAM but it costs $200! The price difference of qualcomm vs mediatek based phones is just $10 - $20.
Famous brands like Sony, Samsung and HTC fail to sell their phones in low - mid end market in my country because of the price. In low end market, Chinese phone rules.
15. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
Fifth chgange -- Give up Apple's greed and policy. Provide removable batteries and competitive pricing. India their phones are so expensive -- Apple's greed & policy in play. No one cares about HTC much in India. If they don't do this then who knows they would also start contract manufacturing for Lava, Karbon and Micromax also :)
18. Taters (Posts: 3742; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Funny how Alan F and HTC fans have masters in marketing now. Every company has access to the same pool of marketing talent and portfolios and resumes. So unless HTC is really bad at choosing from this talent pool, the 12 billion they paid for their campaign isn't the problem.
I think it is about time that people just accept that their products just aren't that great. It is easy to fall victim to preconceived notions and be biased towards your preferences. Maybe people just think Apple and Samsung is flat out better and no amount of excellent marketing will change that.
Just because you think that HTC should be doing better it doesn't mean 80% of the population believes that. I personally think that they should being doing worse and the people with low IQ are keeping them afloat. They should easily be in the same boat as Blackberry, moto, and Nokia now. Either bought out for scrap parts or shopped around.
23. djHidroid (Posts: 9; Member since: 18 Sep 2013)
HTC is not being kept afloat by individuals with low iqs. The one is truly the best phone on the market. Apple sheep will buy whatever is released by the Cuerpotino cult. What kind of it intelligence level warrants buying the same phone or tablet every year with identical build and an incremental bump in specs. Marketing and creating a cult mentality essentially preys on the I have to have what everyone else has logic which shows a lack of intelligence in an individual.
26. ngo2dd (Posts: 896; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)
He is Troll, a sad troll that believe he know everything.
28. Taters (Posts: 3742; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
The real lack of intelligence is thinking that the HTC One is that great. The iphone just works better as a phone and that is why people buy it over the HTC One. No other reason, especially not a reason constructed by Butthurt HTC homers.
32. ngo2dd (Posts: 896; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)
That is why most all reviewer of the phone say how great the HTC one is? So the guys from anandtech, technobuffalo, engadaget, phonedog and many other say how good the HTC one is lack intelligence. Look everyone Tater know better then everyone. We should all listen to him.
37. amats69 (Posts: 1217; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)
Oh just dont mind him..tater is on the top list of samsungs payroll...end of the month is coming..payday! So he needs to double his effort on hating other oem esp. htc for the additional bonus. This guy knows nothing.he writes what samsung told him to write..pathetic person.lol
20. silencer271 (Posts: 254; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
Maybe if everyone starts using Mediatek and other cheap processors qualcom and Nvdia will get smarter about there prices ( and in Nvidia case bringing them to the market MUCH faster)
21. justsayit (Posts: 256; Member since: 09 May 2013)
MediaTek is the best choice for mid-low end phone
a mid-ranger has 1080p videoplayback ability is really nice already,plus it much cheaper than qualcomm processor
try look at lenovo s920/s820(use mediatek soc) they are pretty smooth i think their perform better or atleast par with last year flagship(such as note 2,optimus g,htc butterfly,and maybe sony xperia z/zl)
does qualcomm mid-range chipset has this kind of perform? most qualcomm mid-range gpu are adreno 305, which only 720p video playback ability,half perform of mediatek soc. most phone that using qualcomm soc is expensive when compare to phone that using mediatek
atleast mediatek soc perform worth for money.
34. yudi.nemesis (Posts: 1127; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)
The mediatek chipset in lenovo s920/s820 Is not on par or even better than note 2, optimus g, butterfly, and xperia z/zl.
in terms of performance the mediatek chipset is about on the same level with last year qualcomm chipset like MSM8260A or MSM8960 Dual core 1.5 GHz krait cpu with adreno 225.
I don’t really know about 305 but HTC First and One SV with only adreno 305 is capable for 1080 video capture and playback.
38. justsayit (Posts: 256; Member since: 09 May 2013)
really? sorry, i tough it has only 720p video playback/video capture ability
25. xoxoGeorges (Posts: 209; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)
Thay can put 16 cores on a Mediatek chip and it will still lag.
27. ngo2dd (Posts: 896; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)
You have no ideal what you are talking about. Mediatek use the A7 which is more then enough if your software is coded right. Samsung has the over clock S600 and it still lag compare to the dual core Moto X which is smooth, the HTC one is smooth and lag free too. It has alway been software. All the currect chip is fast enough now.
43. Mittal (Posts: 489; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)
you are the people who are easily influenced by branding
Reason why big fashion houses exist
31. marbovo (Posts: 658; Member since: 16 May 2013)
This $12mi contract with Downey Jr make me remember when Apple made those series of amazing ads called Apple vs PC, then Microsoft paid a lot o money to Jerry Seinfeld and made those crapy ads that talked about nothing
35. mecool (Posts: 7; Member since: 13 Aug 2013)
first thing u want to do is...
throw away your ultrapixel camera...
42. Trex95 (Posts: 597; Member since: 03 Mar 2013)
Ultrapixel isn't bad just need more camera pixels it least 8MP and better optimization plus ultrapixels and Xperia z1 camera the only Android camera phones that gives true to live colors.
41. poping (unregistered)
i hope they start making phone with true thin bezels... and since they got rid of beats, should start using wolfson audio...