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HTC reports continued sales declines, One X underperforming

0. phoneArena 06 Jun 2012, 14:21 posted on

HTC, the Taiwanese manufacturer that seemed like it was doing everything right last year by posting up 6 consecutive months of record revenue in 2011, seems to have entered a bit of a funk...

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posted on 06 Jun 2012, 16:16

30. tedkord (Posts: 11668; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

As far as I'm concerned, where HTC failed was batteries. Last year, they claimed they heard us loud and clear, and would be putting batteries large enough for a days heavy use, but then not only didn't, they also took away the option of a backup battery. Dumb.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 16:24

31. eman99 (Posts: 366; Member since: 03 Aug 2010)

i think they fixed the battery problem my vivid lasts for 2 days compared to my wifes note it takes forever to charge

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 17:08

36. Whateverman (Posts: 3262; Member since: 17 May 2009)

Say what you want, but at a glance you can't tell one HTC device from the other because of sense. It looks exactly the same on every HTC phone which makes every HTC phone feel less like an upgrade, which makes HTC's much less desirable. I know I'm not the only one here who gets bored to death looking at that some old boring HTC clock. Sense 4.0 looks exactly the same as 3.5, 3.0, 2.0 and so one.

@ HTC. Don't just "lighten" the Sense UI! Either completely revamp it, or get rid of it altogether and start all over again. And a redesign of the hardware wouldn't hurt either! The slightly rounded top and bottom edges, and the protruding camera lens is getting really predictable. I'm not hating on HTC... I just want them to evolve.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 18:06

43. EclipseGSX (Posts: 1717; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)

I will have to disagree coming from Sense 2.1 on an EVO 4G then 3.0 on an EVO 3D while there are things similar, there are more differences. IMO anyway I love Sense and 4.0 is the best yet

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 19:47

54. Whateverman (Posts: 3262; Member since: 17 May 2009)

True, there were a few differences, but not enough to make it feel fresh. At heart, it still looks like a Droid ERIS at the homescreen. My wife is an HTC fan so she has has the ERIS, Incredible and the Rhyme, and looking her phone(s) makes me wanna heave. But that's what she likes and I'm sure there are many othe HTC loyalist like her. But even she looked at my Razr with some serious envy.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 18:23 1

47. lubba (Posts: 1313; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)

Four HTC flaws:

1. Unattractive design.
2. Unappealing, cluttered, sense "skin".
3. Fierce competition.
4. Aging OS.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 21:19 2

65. Jonathan41 (Posts: 532; Member since: 22 Mar 2012)

Four HTC pros:

1. Attractive design.
2. Appealing, streamlined, Sense 4 skin.
3. Commensurate competition.
4. Android ICS OS.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 22:24

76. lubba (Posts: 1313; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)

1. Design, same as yesterdays.
2. Sense: too many, too much.
3. Competition: rising stars such as Lenovo, huawei, and others are moving up the ladder.
4 OS: ics, lolz! 7.1% of phones have been updated within >6monrhs time frame. Now "buttercup" is due to show this fall, or is it sweetycakes? Either way still the same grid style Os with options for widgets just like yesterday. But now with a little copying of metro. Sad by the way.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 22:32 2

77. lsutigers (Posts: 820; Member since: 08 Mar 2009)

The bottom line is that MOST, not all, but most people, prefer sense to Touchwiz. Granted, TW is getting better, like Blur did, but Sense is still the most refined skin on Android.

HTC will be fine, they have had some setbacks like the Customs ordeal with the One X / EVO LTE and old inventory writeoff but they will prevail. The One X and particularly the EVO LTE, are fine pieces of hardware, actually, the best at the moment and will be one of the best of the year.

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 04:19

83. lubba (Posts: 1313; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)

They'll be fine but will not see the kind of growth they had enjoyed in early 2011, unless they come out with something new and inspiring like Samsung GS3.

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 06:48

84. Jonathan41 (Posts: 532; Member since: 22 Mar 2012)

What is so "new and inspiring" about the SG3?? A lot of people keep talking like the phone came from the future or something. It's only slightly better then the One X in the Benchmark scores and I don't think the design or the fact that it has a removable battery and a SD card slot are things that would be considered "new and inspiring" by today's standards.

SG3, comes out later = SLIGHTLY better benchmark scores.

A lot of people bought SG2's = A lot of people want SG3's

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 06:50

85. Jonathan41 (Posts: 532; Member since: 22 Mar 2012)

"lolz" at your comment.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 18:26

48. Nickmfnjackson (Posts: 101; Member since: 21 Jan 2010)

The panda is so sad. It almost makes me go out and but a one s. Just almost. Still buying a sgs3 at the end of the month.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 18:41

51. jaytai0106 (Posts: 1888; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)

I feel like a lot of us are missing the point. Majority of the market share don't care about the spec, but we do which counts maybe 5% of it. Smartphone market was taken off about a year ago I would say, which this leads to majority of people to have another year of contract left before they can upgrade. On top of that, smartphones that came out about 8-12 months ago are pretty much $100 to free. So if anyone wants to get into smartphone right now might get the cheaper option simply the economy isn't that great yet and $100 different can be the deal breaker.
By the way, I have the HTC One X and love it. SGS3 is going to be one sick phone but I am happy with what I have. (ps: not a heavy user)

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 20:37

60. lubba (Posts: 1313; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)

I disagree with you on this one. Look at iPhone. We are the driving force to these products. If we go out and purchase products and touts the awesomeness of the device. You can bet regular consumers will go out and buy it in droves. Example, iPhone. The techies and media drives the sale.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 20:49

61. thachlel (Posts: 75; Member since: 20 Apr 2012)

Well any here hate or don't like HTC one x it can be traded to my at&t s2 + $100

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 21:11 2

62. Jonathan41 (Posts: 532; Member since: 22 Mar 2012)

I'm sure the main reason for the underperformance in sales is the whole customs fiasco. For some reason people on this site don't want to admit it but, the One X is one of the best devices on the market. Also, one needs to keep in mind that Apple's iPhone has never had a removable battery or SD slot either seem to be doing just fine so let's not try and blame a lack in sales numbers on that. People keep taking shots at the quality and performance of the One X when they have never used or even held one. Sense is greatly improved on the One X and Evo. The One X and Evo got held at customs early/before (in) their release(d). A phones first weeks are very important so when customs held the phone I'm sure it had a great impact on initial sales numbers. Sales will hopefully pick up but, please don't try to find a way to say that the One X is not one of the best because it is.

P.S. The SG3 and One X don't have very much of a performance gap between them. Especially considering that the SG3 is coming out after the One X. I'm sure Samsung used that time to see exactly what the competition was just so they could make the SG3 performance a hair better. That is even more true for the US version that share the same processor. There practically the same so it mostly comes down to looks (which isen't Samsung's strongest area) and I'm pretty sure a lot of people would say the One X wins in that category.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 21:18

64. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

Apples BS sure had an effect on the sales. Other than that, a lot of customers might have been put off by the lack of removable battery and SD card. That seems to be the #1 complaint about the One series. Iphone users might be used to being bullied out of features, but android users arent. When there is a choice, almost everyone would choose the SD card and removable battery.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 21:24

68. cheeseycheeser (Posts: 413; Member since: 24 Mar 2011)

The thing is, HTC Sense has a good look to it, as does the hardware, but that doesn't make it a good device..

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 21:44 2

71. tiara6918 (Posts: 2036; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)

Htc should think of new marketing strategies, even how many times I see an htc one advertisement, people are still not convinced to buy one.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 22:14 1

74. isprobi (Posts: 653; Member since: 30 May 2011)

HTC's real problem is the Samsung Galaxy S III. It beats the One X in pretty much every way. And this is before people even actually own it at least in the U. S.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 22:54 2

78. lsutigers (Posts: 820; Member since: 08 Mar 2009)

You know, I have an SGS2, which I love, BUT, that is simply NOT true. They share the exact same processor / GPU. HTC Sense is more widely accepted than Touchwiz, for the most part, read any past review. The design / engineering of the One X, particularly the EVO LTE, with its aluminum unibody, is universally accepted as being light years ahead of the SGS3, which is being recognized in current HTC vs Samsung reviews. Again, I own a plasticky SGS2, which I like but it's the truth. The cameras are almost identical in features and quality. Lastly you have software, as mentioned, TYPICALLY, Sense is preferred to Touchwiz, so that leaves the Siri wannabe S-Voice and the few extra software features that let you move the video window around, which by the way is nothing more that Super Video app in the Play Store and that's it, plus a few more software bells and whistles. Most people I know with an iPhone, dont ever use Siri...if we called the HTC EVO 3D's camera a gimmick, we can most certainly say the SGS3's software advantages a gimmick. So really, is the SGS3 THAT much better than the One X / EVO LTE???

Nope, not really, they are both badass phones.

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 09:36

86. romeo1 (Posts: 718; Member since: 06 Jan 2012)

the people who make the review are just a couple.
And if they like sense ui more than touchwiz then its their opinion.
But most users that are switching from htc don't like the sense ui.

I know the build quality is allot better with the one x compared to the sg3.
the sg3 gorilla glas can break really easy and it will cost you in the netherlands about 250€ :(
in my opinion they are both ugly phones but if i had to choose the best looking from them both then i would choose the one x.

that they share the same processor/gpu doesn't mean they are as fast as eachother.
it depends on the software tweaks at wich both brands s*ck.
but htc is worse because the sense ui is heavy and eats the battery.
the sg3 performs better in daily use and in benchmarks.

also i think both ui's look cheap and that is a reason for me to never buy one of them

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 10:32

88. iliketech (Posts: 72; Member since: 17 Aug 2011)

what to you buy/own then? if you won't buy onex or sgs3...

posted on 08 Jun 2012, 09:44

91. romeo1 (Posts: 718; Member since: 06 Jan 2012)

i have the xperia s from sony and waiting for a nice looking/feeling quad core ;-)

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 02:48

80. kanagadeepan (Posts: 922; Member since: 24 Jan 2012)

They must enable true MULTI-TASKING in One-X, else even die-hard android fans will ignore that phone...

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 10:19

87. mariosraptor (Posts: 125; Member since: 15 Mar 2012)

maybe it has to do that ONE X in Greece will cost me a good amount of 699 Euros. that is a months sallary. piss off HTC.

posted on 08 Jun 2012, 23:05

92. immaftw (Posts: 1; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)

Let the sales speak for themselves, END OF STORY
Number of htc one x sold in 2012 : 2 million
Number of Samsung galaxy S III sold in 2012 : 10 million preorders
Number of Samsung galaxy S II sold in 2012 : 6 million
Number of Nokia lumia 900 sold in 2012: 5 million
Go with the phone that most people prefer

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