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HTC reports continued sales declines, One X underperforming

0. phoneArena 06 Jun 2012, 14:21 posted on

HTC, the Taiwanese manufacturer that seemed like it was doing everything right last year by posting up 6 consecutive months of record revenue in 2011, seems to have entered a bit of a funk...

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posted on 06 Jun 2012, 14:23 8

1. droid4all (Posts: 17; Member since: 13 Feb 2011)


I wonder could it have to do with everyone I have ever asked about HTC has said "they hate their Sense UI. Maybe people are just starting to go with other models (Samsung, Motorola, etc...) to get away from HTC Sense.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 14:27 11

2. wsucoug13 (Posts: 164; Member since: 04 May 2012)


I have a HTC and I want a Samsung.. I think your right

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 14:46 10

9. HTCOE (Posts: 632; Member since: 20 Nov 2011)


if the galaxy s3 looked like the nexus but had the sgs3 specs id get it but i think the sgs3 is somewhat uninteresting in my opinion tho

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 16:12 5

28. Synack (Posts: 677; Member since: 05 Jul 2011)


HTC is just not up to par with Samsung. Not to mention Samsung's marketing is starting to become amazing. And everyone knows Sense blows and HTC's all have terrible battery life and crap software AND hardware. HTC is getting better, just not at a rate to compete.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 21:27

69. Jonathan41 (Posts: 532; Member since: 22 Mar 2012)


What are you saying Synack? You must be on bath salts.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 22:12 1

73. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


that joke didnt even make sense.

he does have a point though. when you compare battery and other things, HTC is notoriously lagging. The fact that HTC is notorious for poor battery life in comparison, and then locking down a small battery inside the device doesnt make a lot of people happy.

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 19:38

90. Jonathan41 (Posts: 532; Member since: 22 Mar 2012)


It does. Bath salt make you do nonsensical things like typing a comment says all HTC's have "crap hardware and software" and are "not (improving) at a rate to compete". That's a load of crap.

Battery life can be improved but, thats not all that was said in comment 28. HTC is still one of the top smartphone companies in todays market and that shouldn't be forgotten because of a slump in sales.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 17:22 2

38. deeoh1084 (Posts: 50; Member since: 30 Dec 2009)


same here i have sensation 4G and i hate it!! my brother has SGS II and it feels much much better than my sensation as far as everything (of course they are both rooted and installed with custom roms) that's why i'm going with SGS III this time and the fact that HTC One S or X doesn't have a removable battery & no sd card slot turned me down big time and to be honest i personally think HTC's design doesn't amaze me anymore like they use to....

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 20:19

57. Non_Sequitur (Posts: 1111; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)


"HTC's design doesn't amaze me anymore like they use to...."

Heh. Heh. HTC Amaze. Heh. *shot*

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 18:31 4

50. strikercho (banned) (Posts: 156; Member since: 20 Mar 2012)


You have an HTC and you want a Samsung?? - There is an old saying, you know: ''from bad to worse''. :)

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 21:20 1

66. Jonathan41 (Posts: 532; Member since: 22 Mar 2012)


Why do you want a Samsung? What HTC do you have?

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 04:00

82. shy2papa (Posts: 313; Member since: 23 Jan 2010)


Its Not HTC sense thats the problem but HTC management and head of manufacturing or design, HTC went two steps back with the X one by not including a removable and Bigger battery at least 2500mah, No sd card slot, only 1gig of ram, single led flash instead of the usual Dual led flash, and no camera button.

this in my opinion makes more sense why HTC sells not doing good

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 15:08 4

13. JGuinan007 (Posts: 685; Member since: 19 May 2011)


What are you talking about HTC Sense UI is the best UI out there (granted it can be a resource hog but HTC is trimming the fat on the latest versions). My last 2 phones were HTC the only reason I went with Samsung was because of the bigger better display, battery life, and better processor. I miss the Sense UI alot, Touchwiz isn't nearly as good as Sense UI or look as good either. Bottom line HTC has best software, and Samsung has best hardware. I would love to see Google use HTC software and Samsung hardware in a Nexus Phone.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 15:49 6

20. sgogeta4 (Posts: 394; Member since: 02 Feb 2011)


The new TouchWiz is much better than Sense IMO.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 16:00 2

23. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


new sense is still resource hog compared to touch wiz...which is better is debatable but which one is more efficient on the ram is not...its why htc had to change the multi tasking on the one x to kill apps faster than usual just so there is enough ram for sense to run

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 16:37 2

34. SleepingOz (unregistered)


Totally!
Sense looks great but that's all..

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 16:36 1

33. ph00ny (Posts: 1264; Member since: 26 May 2011)


Um you're talking about a single aspect of these manufacturer software addons

In terms of actually optimizing the software (UI fluidity, browser optimization), Samsung beats HTC hands down

As for the launcher, you can always install other launchers and not use the TW launcher

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 18:00 1

42. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


Coming from an HTC phone to the Galaxy Nexus I can honestly say there's not a ssingle feature from Sense that I miss.

The look on the other hand.. I do have Sense4 as a theme option for theme chooser... but that's why I bought a Nexus ;-)

OPTIONS!

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 16:09 3

26. tedkord (Posts: 12221; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Not all. I love sense, and would take it over any other Android UI, including stock Android. But, I wouldn't get the One X due to lack.of removable battery and microSD card slot.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 18:43

52. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


I suspect HTC's underwhelming sales performance is also sourced in their carrier placement decisions. An exclusive placement of the EVO LTE on Sprint before Sprint has any LTE network, has to be the dumbest decision of 2012 for HTC.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 20:18

56. Non_Sequitur (Posts: 1111; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)


Yeah, I don't like Sense as much as other overlays. It really makes the phone lag and distorts the performance. When my friends are looking for an Android phone, at this point, I direct them to Samsung and Moto.
I don't HATE Sense, it really has gotten better. Still lowers performance a bit, but it's gotten a lot better. Sense three and earlier just made no Sense.
Heh. Heh. See what I did there? *shot*

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 20:23 1

58. 14545 (Posts: 1604; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)


I think it's a mixture of that, and the fact that they release a device and then quit supporting it. (Look at all of the tabs). I like HTC, but now that they have confirmed that my View 4G and Flyer won't be receiving ICS, I'm dumping them. They do their best to hinder development, (not as bad as MOTO mind you but still bad nonetheless) and won't listen to customers, the people that made them what they are/were. I've had the xv6800, TP2, Thunderbolt, Flyer, Rezound, and Evo View 4G. But the last two will be my last HTC devices because they won't cradle development. They are more concerned about profits than making great products anymore. Instead of innovating, they have decided to fall back on gimmicks(beats anyone) to try and sell phones. It's stupid. I'm going all nexus only from here on out.

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 01:37

79. metoyou (Posts: 279; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


I don't think that's the case here. I believe it's the lack of expansion card and removable battery or small battery.
The international is fine with the size but all of the North America one is capped with 16 gb and only 12 gb? is for user. they should at least have 32gb if they sans the microSD card.
I LOVE sense UI

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 03:56

81. shy2papa (Posts: 313; Member since: 23 Jan 2010)


Its Not HTC sense thats the problem but HTC management and head of manufacturing or design, HTC went two steps back with the X one by not including a removable and Bigger battery at least 2500mah, No sd card slot, only 1gig of ram, single led flash instead of the usual Dual led flash, and no camera button.

this in my opinion makes more sense why HTC sells not doing good

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 14:36 3

3. celljudge32 (Posts: 3; Member since: 06 Jun 2012)


I don't think its a coincidence that when they started locking the bootloaders and alienated the Xda types that their sales declined. I enjoy flashing ROMS and kernals but now you have to wait 6 months before the developers are able to achieve S-off to get the full experience.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 20:32

59. Jonathan41 (Posts: 532; Member since: 22 Mar 2012)


That's AT&T's fault. Expect the same for the SG3 at AT&T.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 21:16

63. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


Samsung uses a very minimal lock. Its litterally unlocked with a button press. Always has been. The SGS3 has already been unlocked, samsung has already given the full ROM to the community, and mods are already being made.

Carriers may make them lock the device, but it is up to the manufacturer how strong that lock is.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 21:22

67. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)


It's not a button press, it's no lock at all. You just flash knowing that you will have an obvious indicator that your phone has had it's software modified, at least, until someone figures out how to reset the GS3 flash counter.

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 22:10

72. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


wait.. what? flash counter. I was unaware of that. do you know where documentation of that is?? Is that just on the factory unlocked version or on the carrier international version as well?

posted on 06 Jun 2012, 22:16

75. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)


All SGS2/SGS3 variants have a counter where every time you flash a non-Samsung signed ODIN firmware, it will count it and write it to a file. You will get a yellow triangle on bootup when it is above 0.

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