HTC on the Galaxy S4, “More of the same”
0. phoneArena 15 Mar 2013, 01:35 posted on
HTC’s Chief Marketing Officer, Ben Ho, to no one’s surprise was not impressed with the new Samsung...
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4. No_Nonsense (Posts: 826; Member since: 17 Aug 2012)
Yeah, at least the One has something different in terms of the camera. Speaking about the approach, the S4 kinda seems lacking the X-factor there. It's more like a jump from 720p to 1080p, increase in screen size and RAM. While the One also does this, its approach is better. Most of the s/w features also seem like lifted from the Nokia's or Apple's or BlackBerry's or HTC's, which sadly has been Samsung's forte, waiting for others to make something new and then lifting it in their phones or just adding a new name to an existing technology. The design is way too similar to the already milked S3 design. In short, it fails on the wow or innovation factor. The HTC does good in at least the camera department approach, the Z has a good water and dust-proof body. I'm personally waiting for the Moto X though.
58. StevenFranklin (Posts: 22; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
why are stupid people posting things on here?
compared to the one the s4 has a better camera, a better screen, it weighs less, its slimmer, more features, better os(touch wiz), removable battery, up gradable storage.
Also at the end of the day all of you people with the htc one are going to put ur heacy metal phones in a plastic case so theres really no reason in getting one
60. No_Nonsense (Posts: 826; Member since: 17 Aug 2012)
Better camera? You know that before comparisons or are you just blindly hating? Better screen? LOL, the HOX kicked the S3's butt in the screen area last year. More slimmer? The reason to buy a case on a smartphone. I wouldn't put a case on a Moto, HTC, Nokia or Sony. Can't say the same about Samsung and Apple. Better OS? In terms of gimmicks yes, but I'd lesser specs and features which work well rather than more of them which don't work too well. Removable battery and MicroSD expansion agreed, although not many will replace their batteries or need more than 64GB storage.
81. ravearamashi (Posts: 11; Member since: 11 Feb 2013)
Relax, One X was great, but S3 sold more than One X ever did. And S4 will sell more than One, that I'm pretty sure. Most of my friends who are first time Android users are going to get S4 instead of One. Because after all, you're gonna wrap that metal with plastic case or TPU case, so it doesn't matter anymore. HTC is just "blinkfeeds" away from Chapter 11 :)
109. jbitounis (Posts: 50; Member since: 08 Oct 2011)
So, sales number makes one phone better than another? Or is it maybe that "people know what's best"? People buy Samsung's products because Samsung has spent a great deal lot more money in marketing (and in "influencing" the opinion of reviewers in magazines, blogs etc, some would add) than any other Android OEM.
64. SherlockHolmes (Posts: 125; Member since: 10 Apr 2012)
Better Camera ? - Excellent Low light Photography is possible with Htc One !!
Better Screen ? - 468ppi vs 440 ppi and More Real colours in Htc One SLCD 3 than the Unreal Saturated Colours in S 4 !!
Plastic Always Less than Premium Metal Body !!
And Touchwiz is Better or not can only be known once you use both of them !!
Anyways Touchwiz has improved only by a Smaller Extent while Sense 5 is Completely New Software !!
And you are a Porn maniac ? -32Gb and 64 Gb options are available in Htc One !!
What about the Speakers on the Htc One the BoomBox ?-Its Awesome !!
The 13 Grams more in your pocket will make it heavy to carry around ? - Really Kiddo ?
First of all Forget that you are a Sammy Fanboy and Rethink again between the Htc One and S4 !!
70. 90ninjas (Posts: 84; Member since: 07 Aug 2012)
I would hardly call the low light photography "excellent" with all that grain and lack of detail/sharpness.
The likeness of the screen is subjective. Some people like the punchy colors, others do not. But what cannot be denied is the true blacks that AMOLED has.
Plastic is not crap. You should ask yourself why they use plastic, and then you'll understand.
Touchwiz, according to the GENERAL CONSUMER, has always been the better choice in comparison to Sense. I can't say for the HO and Sense 5 because I have not used it, but Touchwiz has consistently been smooth and has non-gimmicky features that are not useless.
Yes, but how good is this "completely new software" ?
Many people would carry their music with them and, with that kind of screen, movies that they have acquired. Mass storage is always a welcome addition. Your "porn" comment just shows your lack of maturity..
You mean "BoomSound." You act like you know it's the best phone yet you can't even get the feature right...
82. ravearamashi (Posts: 11; Member since: 11 Feb 2013)
The BoomSound is the gimmick. People who listens to music would just plug their earphones, and I remember most audiophiles cursed One X audio chip and audio enhancement for destroying the sound quality, and since One comes with Beats Audio, well it'll say for itself
92. kalandershihab (Posts: 57; Member since: 09 Mar 2012)
you made made up this sentence so that you could use the word "gimmick" for the HTC one isn't it?
104. vil208 (Posts: 1; Member since: 15 Mar 2013)
Hmmmm..... now that sounds like what apple has introduced the Iphone....better better better and no real - bright inovation
90. REYNER (Posts: 187; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
every manufacturer copy something from one to another. every company is guilty with that. samsung succeed in software tweaks and some jigery-pokery features such as air view smart pause and wider camera option BUT!! lets face it the recent flagships(sony,HTC,nokia even Blackberry) improved much from either hardware if not from UI and camera lens/tricks and samsung failed to catch up with that they been too complacent i dont know if im expecting more or its just that samsung failed to impress me at some point. dont get me wrong samsung fan boys, lets face it GS III's release was epic features design UI has been improved tremendously from S II even the software tricks were impressive but with sIV it seems to me like it was just a bump in camera,screen and some tricks that has already seen in some phones like NOTE II its more of like iphone 4s updated to iphone 5 at glance, physically nothing seems to change that much.. i guess HTC One will be my next big thing if not i would be happy with Xperia Z
142. mafiaprinc3 (Posts: 254; Member since: 07 May 2012)
the one is an extremely beautiful and elegant design. when it comes to phones,best designs are sony and htc
24. amiroo (Posts: 243; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
correct Ben Ho..
one is diffrent of any others this year.
one is sample of htc`s caibility in android basis.
34. amiroo (Posts: 243; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
one attract me again..
plz check it camera comptition btw one/lumia 920/808/n95:
why not one when htc affected me..really great.
76. zippolite28 (Posts: 100; Member since: 28 Sep 2012)
140. REYNER (Posts: 187; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
very nice thorough review it makes me love htc one more i cant wait to have one.. thanks to your link|!
91. amiroo (Posts: 243; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
there is another victory over s4.
thats why one`s camera better than s4
ultrapixel is big innovation 2013.
65. AamirSIII (banned) (Posts: 187; Member since: 04 Oct 2012)
the ONLY thing One "MIGHT" surpass S4 is the build of the phone and thats it!
and personally and using common sense, i would go for polycarbonate build, slimmer and more compact phone with REMOVABLE battery, Micro SD card slot and above all superior software with future support!
sammy has really worked on its software division in the past year cause of the dedication of new chairman of mobile division who on his first day, commited to giving customers best software and everybody knows sammy is delivering in terms of software support, as they updated their "2 GENERATION" old S2 to Jelly Bean which is a big deal comparing to HTC!
so yeah its a Bit bad for S4 in terms of its Design but other wise its awesome!
68. Dynamac (Posts: 20; Member since: 01 Dec 2012)
Couldn't have said it better.
"Our customers want something different from the mainstream", too bad there just isn't enough of these customers. HTC still doesn't get it, the One is premium yes, so was the HOX, but look at how that sold. HOX was worth half its selling price 3 months after launch on the 2nd hand market, how can I spend money on something like that.
106. PAPINYC (Posts: 1972; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)
You, my good man, should be endowed with the heavenly gifts bestowed onto Kings (and, queens [don't want to offend or shut out the good people on iTunes]) for your comment. Personally, I see nothing wrong with the design; the only people griping about design are those people who favor a phone made out of earth-shattering glass glued together. And, of course the bitter folks over at HTC who made the mistake of signing an exclusivity deal with Sprint for the EVO and EVO 3D; that's when they really dropped the ball and now they sound like school kids in a lunch recess yard yelling out insults at passersby through a metal fence.
80. amiroo (Posts: 243; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
HTC One is for Paris fashion week, Galaxy S4 is for grocery shopping lol
137. EclipseGSX (Posts: 1447; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Pretty much, HTC One only useful for a lame event for one week, GS4 Daily driver :)
45. RaKithAPeiRiZ (Posts: 1207; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)
second it ( expecting thumbs down any minute )
3. phil2n (Posts: 466; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
I'm a Samsung fan but not this SIV.. I have to agree with this man.
Maybe because we expect too much for Samsung. The Moto X Phone will bring the biggest surprise.
lol on this
6. No_Nonsense (Posts: 826; Member since: 17 Aug 2012)
It's not about actually expecting too much from Samsung. Apple gave us more of the same till last year and their brand recognition suffered, Nokia and BB fell to provide something very good when they were on top and resultingly became complacent. The Z10 is fresh on the software side, using gestures instead of the normal approach of say WP or android or iOS. The hardware is not screaming WOW at all. Its a great phone though. The 920 has a good camera and a super sensitive screen and w/l charging. The camera is not exactly innovative and neither is w/l charging but the screen is.
Samsung has unfortunately failed to deliver this time round. However, this won't change the fact that it'll sell more than most of the flagships which'll be released this year.
37. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 2957; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
Expecting too much has a play here my friend.
SIII was a success...it still might be and the features that came with it was good. That's why fans expect more from the next iteration. They keep hoping for the best that could happen, not saying it's bad, but it has led to the disappointment.
52. No_Nonsense (Posts: 826; Member since: 17 Aug 2012)
Not exactly, is it groundbreaking in terms of design? It's not that you'd buy a Ferrari if it looked like a Maruti 800. Its certainly not the kind of stuff you'd expect from someone who has been selling the most number of devices for the last year. If Apple can't be excused, neither can Samsung or Nokia or whoever else it is can be. We aren't over expecting anything, its evolutionary than revolutionary.
61. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 2957; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
Lol...let's see what the Samsung fan would say.
72. Nokfan1603 (Posts: 26; Member since: 13 Mar 2013)
Lumia 920 has is the only flagship smartphone with a physical optical image stabilisator which you can definitely call innovative. outbeating all other flagship on making your videos and pictures less shaky and also allowing amazing low light shots.
87. No_Nonsense (Posts: 826; Member since: 17 Aug 2012)
Of course, it does have h/w based stabilizer, but PV1 was more wowy than PV2. Speaking about the gestures, MeeGo had them and so did the PB OS around 2 years back. I called it fresh and not innovative. They'd have been innovative on the N9, PB. Now if they make the OIS/gestures more better that'd be amazing.
78. microsoftnokiawin (Posts: 728; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)
because gestures defintely weren't on MeeGO like 2 years ago yep BB came up with their own idea definitely
5. galanoth (Posts: 125; Member since: 26 Nov 2011)
HTC is losing money every month.
They use better build materials in their HTC One than the Galaxy S IV so they need to start advertising.
Why criticize the leader when they're obviously doing something better than you?
Be the best, win awards, then talk.
11. darkskoliro (Posts: 843; Member since: 07 May 2012)
So by your terms, the iPhone is better than the galaxies because they sell better? Because it isnt as widely recognised doesnt mean its worse.
22. MC1123 (Posts: 1219; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)
please dont bring the iPhone here! its just different... i think people choose iPhone coz it is a buy-then-go kinda device, and those people who dont do homescreen....and also those people who prefer to look better around with that premium design phone..
coz admit it, s3 looks and feel cheap, a device that is only worth $150 off contract!
84. ravearamashi (Posts: 11; Member since: 11 Feb 2013)
At least Samsung doesn't lock the bootloader, then releases a Developer Edition, and at least S3 has a wayyy better developer support than One X, and the battery lasts longer. Yes the build quality sucks, but that's all the HTC trumps, other than that, there's almost nothing. Look at Droid DNA, good specced phone, but almost no features except Sense which is just OEM-made launchers
32. galanoth (Posts: 125; Member since: 26 Nov 2011)
No where in my comment I said it was a worse device.
I'm just saying HTC should advertise their strengths.
Mobile World Congress 2012 and 2013 Samsung has won for best smartphone so even the tech community recognizes Samsung is doing something right.
Maybe HTC will do amazing in 2013 and win smartphone of the year at next years Mobile World Congress.
But until then, they really shouldn't be saying much.
39. pokerc (Posts: 46; Member since: 24 May 2012)
Actually I think HTC one won best mobile at mwc 2013
67. galanoth (Posts: 125; Member since: 26 Nov 2011)
On the GSMA website for global mobile awards it says Best smartphone Galaxy S 3.
120. gwuhua1984 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)
"Best New Mobile Handset, Device or Tablet at Mobile World Congress 2013"
83. ravearamashi (Posts: 11; Member since: 11 Feb 2013)
Which only had 2 flagship contested, the awful Xperia Z and the meh One
99. Diego! (Posts: 448; Member since: 15 Jun 2009)
It won "Best new device" not best mobile. Best Mobile was an award Samsung Galaxy S III won.
111. androidsbiggestfan (Posts: 76; Member since: 09 Aug 2011)
I think you should actually do your research before you open your mouth up. There are no "losses" occurring as you state, now are the sales downward month over month or year over year, yes that is the case, but thier is no money actually lost, HTC is still a profitable company.
7. pyradark (Posts: 694; Member since: 10 Jun 2012)
Wow!! Before you make a judge HTC to S4, make sure HTC one is not a continuation of Xperia P & BB Z10. I hate company bashing other company. If HTC dont sell well
then you'll be #theNextBigFlop
8. avin007 (Posts: 137; Member since: 28 Feb 2013)
Folks if u consider the phonearena users as serious consumers also....then consider this.....a few hours ago,in a poll conducted by PA......more than 35% user wanted gs4 but at present that has dropped to less than 7%......so folks it is obvious what the fate of gs4 is...and also many ppl are wanting xperia z(around 35%).....samsung forget abt selling 10 million units in first month....
12. No_Nonsense (Posts: 826; Member since: 17 Aug 2012)
Er, its not only the PA voters that'll decide if it'll sell 10M units in the first month. Around 75% or maybe more of the general consumer that buy phones won't comment or vote on tech sites.
43. vladd100 (Posts: 56; Member since: 12 Jul 2012)
it's normal,since people has long waited to see what samsung will bring,,and then suddenly we only see failure ...
9. rickywinataa (Posts: 262; Member since: 05 Apr 2012)
well, if he is expecting sIV more of the same, it will be sell even better than s3. don't get me wrong, i like htc one and i think there will be a great fight between one and s4, but it doesn't mean everyone is going to like all metal phone. i wonder how long it will take for average consumer to get htc one's back all scratched up
10. MC1123 (Posts: 1219; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)
HTC's one ultrapixel is actually #TheNextBigFlop but at least it is innovation! and one is a real industial device! its fresh and really new and beautiful!
but nokia N95 (from 2007) lost by one point from this shoot out against HTC one with 808 PV and 920 (cant believe N95 beat lumia 920!)
but im so agreeing with this! samsung's s4 is nothing new! cool new features but nothing new! new by the means that it didn't WOW people like what they did to s3!
i can really see that HTC one and xperia z or maybe whatever google-motorola are prepping will be the new android king! time for samsung to say goodbye!
13. avin007 (Posts: 137; Member since: 28 Feb 2013)
Now everyone is grumbling abt htc bashing samsung........sammy is getting the taste of its own medicine(bashing apple with gs3)!!!
18. MC1123 (Posts: 1219; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)
lol!! agree!! with all that unicorn apocalypse!! they will now turn into one tragic apocalypse!
54. chadrick0814 (Posts: 208; Member since: 23 Nov 2011)
Samsung was also sued by Apple multiple times on multiple continents before their Apple bashing. I guess since HTC is now paying Apple, they also decided to jump on the Samsung bashing bandwagon.
14. MC1123 (Posts: 1219; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)
s4 isnt really impressive! it is taking the apple route! especially that it stick to the same old ugly plastic design of s3! and even though they say its polycarbonate (they said that also on s3) but still look cheap!! and im pretty sure it isnt tough!!!
HTC one and Xperia Z and whatever that X phone is as long as it will be amazing are the current champions now!
samsung is beaten by looks and industrial design! one is amazing and xperia z is awesome! plus the fance beats audio (one) and that dust proof and water proof (xperia z) will really come in handy!
85. ravearamashi (Posts: 11; Member since: 11 Feb 2013)
So that's all One has, the aluminum body which will be covered by the plastic case or whatever case the users will put to protect it from scratching, but other than that, almost no features except Flipboard wannabe. And Xperia Z had an awful screen and bad camera
146. TMach (Posts: 310; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)
Do watch the video in the link below before making any more idiotic comments! In this case perhaps retract that same comment. Some critical thinking for you...If the HOX screen is better than that of the S3 and the HTC One screen builds on that same tech but the Xperia Z screen is by most experts on a par with the HTC One or better then..........