HTC chief executive: “The worst has probably passed”

3. MeoCao (unregistered) posted on 04 Jan 2013, 05:50 0

can u clarify?

6. rusticguy posted on 04 Jan 2013, 06:02 1

If they make less money by selling devices they will try and cover it up by suing -- their another main business -- which means troubles and more troubles.

9. MeoCao (unregistered) posted on 04 Jan 2013, 06:42 2

lol, this is why HTC thinks they will do better than other Android OEMs, HTC has become a little brother of Apple and will not be sued.

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14. Aeires (unregistered) posted on 04 Jan 2013, 07:22 2

True, but I wonder if that'll last if HTC suddenly pulls a Samsung and blows past Apple in phones sold. Granted, that's an astronomically huge 'if' to pull off.

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16. MeoCao (unregistered) posted on 04 Jan 2013, 07:38 0

HTC must have something really big then, and they fear no1 once they reach that position.

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28. gwuhua1984 posted on 04 Jan 2013, 12:46 0

I think HTC should be safe from any Apple threats for another 5 years. How long was that agreement for again?

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13. darkkjedii posted on 04 Jan 2013, 07:18 0

Man U can't go more than 5 minutes without mentioning apple can u? I notice I hardly see u on the android articles, just the apple ones. R u sure u dislike apple as much as u say u do?

24. Lboogey6 posted on 04 Jan 2013, 10:40 0

how so? if they are doing a complete overhaul they are showing the products are pushing as well as they would've hoped. To be honest this whole contract with one carrier thing isn't helping them succeed. I would love for HTC to be a power house again but they have to be smart spread the word market like no other and stop one carrier selling.

29. gwuhua1984 posted on 04 Jan 2013, 12:47 0

I think the one device that's really doing well at this moment is the Butterfly. Not sure how the DNA is selling in the States, but Butterfly is selling like hot cakes in Japanese and Taiwan with Taiwan sold out everywhere.

10. tiara6918 posted on 04 Jan 2013, 06:59 4

Htc made the right decision of changing their chief marketing officer and this year will be a great start for the company. Marketing was what they really lack in order to sell more handsets

15. Aeires (unregistered) posted on 04 Jan 2013, 07:25 8

Keyword: carriers, carriers, carriers!

They need their high end phones to stop being exclusive to only certain carriers and offer them to everyone. Samsung killed it with the S3, making it available all over the world on a massive amount of carriers. HTC should have taken notes on that.

18. SellPhones82 posted on 04 Jan 2013, 08:53 3

No, they need to quit locking their phones down! If I wanted a locked down phone I'd go with a iPhone. Most people get an Android device because they are "open" and they can flash other roms and kernels. Are there even any HTC phones released in the last year that you can get S-Off now? I thought about getting the EVO LTE but went with the GSIII after reading all the S-Off horror stories and that turns devs away from the device as well so there is little to nothing you can do to them. HTC lost many customers to Samsung because of this and I think it will continue unless they become more "dev friendly" like Samsung has done.

19. Aeires (unregistered) posted on 04 Jan 2013, 09:14 2

Most people don't buy phones for that reason. There's no way you'll ever prove that the mod community is larger than the average Joe who walks into a store and buys phones. The mod community is good sized, but tiny in comparison to the overall phones sold.

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21. z31k_3 posted on 04 Jan 2013, 10:00 1

Maybe true, but we will have a huge impact on the others around us that will take our opinion over the majority. How many times have you asked someone who knows more about a subject, and just took their word for it just because they seem to know what they were talking about?? etc. most iphone owners....

I, for one agree. They really need to quit locking down and they need to quit with the intergrated battery..

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23. Aeires (unregistered) posted on 04 Jan 2013, 10:32 1

While I agree with you completely, that's still not enough to influence HTC's decisions.

This is my personal opinion but I believe it comes down to market strategy. HTC's strategy is to sell quality phones and focus on the average consumer, hence all the things that drive the modding community nuts. Samsung's strategy is to sell as many phones as possible and not care so much about them because after one is released, they've already moved on to their next iteration. I believe HTC looks at their customers as one who holds onto their phones longer than a Samsung customer will. Regardless how many times it's posted, if you mod your phone you void the warranty. HTC doesn't want to deal with that so they make it more difficult for the modding crowd while focusing on the mainstream consumer. Samsung doesn't care, they just want to sell volume (with quality, just not as much as it could be if they slowed down).

My two cents on the differences.

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35. ftyler223 posted on 05 Jan 2013, 23:43 0

Aeires. That is a very clever way of explaining the whole HTC Samsung sales comparison. Its true. HTC makes a much better quality phone than Samsung. I couldn't agree with you more.

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25. Lboogey6 posted on 04 Jan 2013, 10:44 0

its not the mod community people are already brainwashd to think only one brand of phone works (he who will not be named) lol so they are making sure that if they stick with or go to android they get the best of the best so if you hear numerous horror stories which do happen very often with htc they won't buy not to mention honest sales people will push away from it knowing it doesn't perform well for the same amount of money and two years on a contract. looking at the EVO line up kudos to releasin the first but everyone of those has had a pile of issues they have gotten better yes but i try not to count 3d version...ouch

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31. SellPhones82 posted on 04 Jan 2013, 13:47 0

Yes, the average Joe's outnumber the mod community by at least 5 to 1 but in the end it's still market share that HTC is giving up to Samsung and other OEMs. HTC also seems to be slower at getting updates out. Maybe it's because they do have too many phones out on different carriers and need to focus more on one main flagship phone and then a few mid to lower range phones. I thought that was something they mentioned last year yet the One X hit only AT&T, Sprint got an “EVO” version of it, T-Mo gets the X+, VZW didn’t get one at all and then launches the DNA which trumps the other three. The GS2 will get Jelly Bean...how many HTC phones release in 2011 year will see JB? The Design and 3D will not. The Shift and OG EVO never broke 2.3.4. Like others have mentioned, word of mouth and others experiences with a phone or OEM are key, I think as much or more than any ad campaign in some cases. A buddy of mines 3D was jacked for some reason after a recent OTA update and kept rebooting into the factory recovery for some unknow reason. He’d taken it to Sprint and they “tried” to fix it but were unsuccessful. It’d be an easy fix if his phone was rooted and had a custom recovery since I could then wipe /system and caches and make the phone run better that a stock 3D after we remove a ton of that bloat that only makes the phone run slower and use additional resources. Needless to say he’s now looking forward to his upgrade date so he can get a GS4.

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26. Lboogey6 posted on 04 Jan 2013, 10:46 1

lol wait did you mention best phone makers and then speak about just a few 0f the flaws they have come on marketing only does so much look at how much you see from windows marketing (no offense to wp owners) but thats still a slowly moving ship people wake up past phones fail after months and then current phone people are hesitant.

27. Lboogey6 posted on 04 Jan 2013, 10:47 1

.....i love this thank you.