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Kmack
posted on 15 Nov 2011, 17:35
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ICS with buttons on the front?
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GALAXY-S
posted on 15 Nov 2011, 17:39
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yea why is there buttons??
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iankellogg
posted on 15 Nov 2011, 18:01
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on screen buttons are kind of dumb. even though they can disappear when not needed they still take up space
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seanwilliam906
posted on 15 Nov 2011, 18:03
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Software buttons or physical/capacitive buttons are a choice for manufactures with ICS! Google doesn\'t care!
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remixfa
posted on 15 Nov 2011, 20:33
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its a choice manufacturers have. honestly, i like the "look" without the buttons, but im not sold on real world as i tend to accidentally hit the onscreen buttons on my honeycomb tablet a decent bit.
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Alantef
posted on 15 Nov 2011, 17:36
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Now...Galaxy Nexus......I will have this next year....maybe lol
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Synack
posted on 15 Nov 2011, 20:24
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Honestly, this is f**king pointless. Just keep adding raw power to a phone and completely f**k over battery life and aesthetics of a phone. It's a f**kING PHONE. Just optimize the goddamn software to better work with hardware. There is absolutely no need whatsoever to have all of this power. There is not a single app or game that requires this crap. HTC, you are so stupid.
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vzwincred
posted on 15 Nov 2011, 20:34
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maybe the sw isnt being made since theres no hw made for it. just a thought.
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remixfa
posted on 15 Nov 2011, 20:35
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if you would quit cursing long enough to actually read the article before you comment you would have noticed
"up to 75% increase in battery performance" compared to the S3 snapdragon dual core chip thats out now.
The more cores u have, the less each one is stressed.. the lower the voltages used =less over all power consumption.
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Synack
posted on 15 Nov 2011, 22:20
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It honestly doesn't matter because you're basically running my gaming desktop from 2009 in a damn phone. Anyone who actually knows how an iPhone and Nexus phones work will know this. Instead of HTC improving on their Sense (or removing it altogether) they'd rather stuff a beefy processor in the phone so it can handle all of the boggyness of Sense. Also, anyone who knows anything about Android knows that HTC makes the worst quality phones. Hardware is junk, software is junk, and their metals and plastics are junk. The only thing they've managed to do is make some of their phones look good and aesthetically feel good to the touch. Also they've put in Beats Audio, oh boy! Basically a tuned internal equalizer that will destroy earbuds if you use anything less than the earbuds they give you. HTC is looking a lot like HP lately. Junk hardware/software in a pretty case. HTC needs to learn from Samsung on hardware and software. Also, nobody really want a phone that's as thick as a wallet, do they? Nope :/
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bayhuy
posted on 16 Nov 2011, 04:24
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Q: What is worse than Apple fanboi?
A: A Samsung fanboi!
Basically you're telling that HTC must learn from South Korean KIRF manufacturer, sued for copying the look and feel and banned!?
Apple = Adidas
Samsung = Adibas.
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Forsaken77
posted on 15 Nov 2011, 23:53
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Actually that's not totally accurate. The more cores, the more battery you use to power them. There's more of them to power, that's common sense. True, each one handles less computations, but a dual core of the same chip type will use less power. The reason there is better battery performance is because of the 28nm chip. The chip itself is better optimized and requires much less juice to perform the same functions. Dual cores in a phone are more than capable to handle just about anything you can throw at it. A quad-core is just over-kill for a phone (it's not a tablet). Synack is right when he says that they could achieve basicly the same results if they optimize the software properly. It's like HTC isn't even trying to go that route. They should learn from Xbox/PS3 game developers for how to optimize your software to squeeze every last drop of power out of the hardware. Those developers have done some amazing things with those consoles and the smartphone architecture isn't that far from a pc/Xbox in aspects of development.
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ayephoner
posted on 16 Nov 2011, 05:57
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this is the natural progression. this processor sounds like way too much, but none of us know what this phone is capable of. We dont really know how far ICS can be optimized with a quad core, but with the unification of phone and tablet software, it does make sense.
and with windows moving toward 3 way unification, power like this should be common in w8 phones and tablets (i hope).
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remixfa
posted on 16 Nov 2011, 09:58
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forsaken, you are incorrect.
all cores are not on all the time. for menial tasks, only 1 core turns on. . other cores turn on as needed. 4 cores working at 25% power use less battery than the same power core working at 100% power.
Volt usage is not evenly distributed among power ranges for the chip... aka if it uses 1 volt at 25% power, it does not automatically mean it uses 2 volts at 50% power or 3 volts at 75% power.. ect ect. When you get to higher % usage of the chip, it actually sucks more power at the top 25% of the chip than it did for the bottom 50%. So if you can keep the chips running at half mast or less, together they = more horsepower while sucking less juice.
And since all 4 cores running at 100% power is a rarity compared to normal usage, the over all power usage is reduced.
There was an Nvidia article where they showed core usage live in the video that really brings a lot of what i just said to light.
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Galen20K
posted on 15 Nov 2011, 17:42
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I really wish htc never made a deal with beats audio.
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choupino
posted on 15 Nov 2011, 21:46
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Galen20K... First off... HTC purchased Beats Audio outright... Secondly, why would you not want a company to step up it's sound production and technology by acquiring a prime manufacturer of sound related hardware and software? HTC has always had some of the best sounding smartphones so far. Why would they not want to push the envelope to the next level?
YOU HAVE TO REALLY CLARIFY A WISH LIKE THAT DUDE!!!
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Forsaken77
posted on 16 Nov 2011, 00:05
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I wouldn't go so far as to say they should've never gotten involved with Beats, of course adding a great exclusive feature like that really helps draw people away from Apple. But HTC needs to iron out the flaws in its' software first before piling on more cpu-intensive applications (not just referring to Beats). They need to go back to basics, imo, like improving software optimization and battery life. After all the phones they put out and they still haven't done much with the battery performance. In some aspects their battery life has gotten worse while others are drastically improving (Razr). Fix these KEY features, then add on other things.
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PimpStrong
posted on 16 Nov 2011, 08:17
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HTC audio sounds like its in a tin can.
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clevername
posted on 15 Nov 2011, 17:42
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I think the design is actually amazing. First HTC design I've ever liked, and I love it. But...its running ics, so the buttons should be removed(good eye Kmack) and the bottom bezel should be bought closer to the bottom of the screen. Or make it 4.65" like the nexus.