HTC One will skip 4.2.2 and go straight to 4.3 says president
0. phoneArena 18 Aug 2013, 10:56 posted on
The Android 4.2.2 Jelly Bean update was pushed out to the international versions of the HTC One over one month ago; and, of course the HTC One Google Edition has already been updated to Android 4.3 Jelly Bean. But, the U.S. carrier versions of the HTC One are still running Android 4.1, and it has been a while since we've heard anything about when users should expect the update...
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58. akki20892 (Posts: 3745; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
Alright HTC I need update really fast. My HTC one is waiting for 4.3
3. AliNSiddiqui (Posts: 382; Member since: 19 Sep 2012)
On US Carriers, yes, but they are in minority.
5. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)
From all their past phones it should of been expected to get slow updates.
25. fragje (Posts: 6; Member since: 08 Jan 2013)
My European HTC ONE runs 4.2.2 stock. dunno what they're talking about.
28. imkyle (Posts: 1035; Member since: 18 Nov 2010)
Unless you have the Google Edition, all HTC One's run Sense UI out of the box.
49. marbovo (Posts: 658; Member since: 16 May 2013)
He is saying that he has 4.2.2 on his phone since he bought it not that it is running stock android. ;)
44. RomeoJDR (Posts: 242; Member since: 09 Dec 2011)
The article says 4.2.2 has rolled out to the international version
7. JewBakaUCFG (Posts: 173; Member since: 25 Sep 2012)
4.2.2., actually. Dropping the 4 is assuming the the reader, having read the article and not skimmed it (also assuming) would understand that it should not be necessary to continually type out the whole thing. This is akin to referring to Barack Obama simply as Obama.
6. Martin_Cooper (Posts: 815; Member since: 30 Jul 2013)
One of the MANY reasons HTC is doing so s**t to a point they are going like Blackberry in a year or so..(sell or bankruptcy)
8. MartyK (Posts: 729; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)
I agree, if they want to survive, they need to stay on top of upgrading their phone, this should be their top priority!.
32. Jonathan41 (Posts: 532; Member since: 22 Mar 2012)
Do you know how updates work for phones on contract? The first sentence in this very article says that the International HTC One has this update. HTC is on top of everything.
Updates for Phones on contact go like this:
OS (Google) > Manufactures (HTC) > Carriers (ex. AT&T) > You
No matter how fast HTC is done with the update it's the carries that touch it last and send it out to you; usually taking a while to do it.
What this article is saying is that HTC is not even going to bother making customers wait for 4.2.2 to be sent through the carriers and are going straight to 4.3 which is something they don't have to do at all.
51. b1acktiger (Posts: 212; Member since: 19 May 2012)
Google > SoC Vendors > OEM >Carriers > Consumers
56. izim1 (Posts: 86; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
my dev edition isn't anymore on contract than the international edition.... Couldve at least posted an RUU on their website or something if they were too lazy/broke to push 4.2.2 out
29. Jonathan41 (Posts: 532; Member since: 22 Mar 2012)
Okay. Support that argument. What are all the thing HTC is doing SO wrong?
57. Martin_Cooper (Posts: 815; Member since: 30 Jul 2013)
1. Slow updates. Galaxy S3 is getting 4.3 very soon, HTC ONE X is getting 4.2
2. Names. Confusing names that a non geek, non tech person cant understand. HTX ONE X is 2012 phone, they release HTX ONE a 2013 phone.
3. They used to release tons of phones instead of focusing on few. They stopped that slowly last year. Its too late though.
3. Availability. Until recently HTC phones werent available to all carriers in USA.
4. Names. Again. They release weird flagships like butterfly S while Samsung uses the same name for galaxy S4, and just adds something at the end. S4 active, S4 mini. So you are never confused.
5. Marketing. Not enough and not good as Samsung. Samsung made ads that everyone was commenting on even if it was negative press it was still working. HTC havent done 1 ad recently that was amazing or at least that mad ean impact.
6. I really dont care for SD slot and removable battery,. But damn many android users do care. And all this years HTC keeps pushing flagships in USA and Europe without SD slot at least when they see people crying over it. How hard was it to make HTC ONE X, or HTX ONE witha SD slot? So yeah.
And many more little details..
9. promise7 (Posts: 524; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)
This is primarily one of the reasons why HTC is struggling, slow updates... You can design the most beautiful phones all you want, but if you continue to roll out slow updates, not even Tony Stark can save your company.
11. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
"...but if you continue to roll out slow updates, not even Tony Stark can save your company."
I'm pretty sure that updates are mostly important for geeks and tech entuziast (minority), other users (majority) are not so obsessed about the fast updates. So in my opinion say that company's existence depends on how fast are updates is just plain silly.
13. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4154; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
This is only partially true, the majority of people don't really care or know what version of software they're running. But, when a person sees someone running a newer version and sees the features of it, they'll start to realize how behind they are in software.
16. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
This is only partially true. As you say, if person doesn't really care or know what version of software he or she is running, then I'm pretty sure that such person even won't pay attention to the other peoples smartphones. And even if such person will pay attention to the other persons smartphone, difference between features should be very obvious, in other way person who is not into tech won't even notice these differences.
17. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
As an example iPhone users just don't care or some just pretend that they don't see that Android based devices is way more advanced. :)
18. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4154; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Just because most people are oblivious to their software version doesn't mean they're oblivious to the phones of others. If two people who are friends have Android devices, one on ICS, the other on 4.2 Jelly Bean, they're going to notice some differences when the person with the newer software uses their phone. What if the person on 4.2 uses Google Now, quick toggles, or photosphere? The other person might see and wonder why they can't do those things on their phone.
21. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
My comment #16:
"...difference between features should be very obvious, in other way person who is not into tech won't even notice these differences."
22. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4154; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
The differences are obvious, regardless of whether the people are into tech or not. If you're friend on 4.2 shows you a photosphere, if you're on 4.0 or 4.1 you're going to look for that feature (theoretically speaking as if you weren't into tech and didn't know the difference between 4.0, 4.1, and 4.2), and when you can't find it you're going to wonder why.
24. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
I don't understand with what exactly you don't agree with me, or just want to argue?
26. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4154; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
I don't agree with you. People, regardless of how tech savvy they are, can be aware of how behind they are in terms of updates, and miss the features of newer software. Manufacturers aren't entirely dependent on updates for success like promise7 said, but it's not just the geeks and tech enthusiasts who mostly care about updates like you said.
34. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
Agree with you, I don't know why majority of us "techies" think that the "average" Joe's are sometime to dumb to use certain os's (the amount of time I have read that android is too complicated for "normal"people is becoming a joke.) Or they just don't care about updates or don't know about updates as if they are totally oblivious..you don't need to be tech nerd to know if you are behind etc ..I personally believe even non techies are getting more into tech than we realise.
42. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
I never have aid that average user is dumb, I just say that average user is not obsessed about the fast updates.
46. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
No I never meant you thinking users are dumb, but so many times on podcasts etc techies are always insinuating just that.. I agree with you that the average joes doesnt fester over updates and lags etc like we do but I do believe from personal experience of being shocked when someone who isn't techies like us ask me about new updates etc makes me believe that even though they are more patient and happy to wait for new updates they IMO probably are more knowledgable about new updates being abvailable etc..
41. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
So you say that HTC will die because of slow updates? Do you realize that HTC has more serious problems than slow updates?
43. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4154; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
"Manufacturers aren't entirely dependent on updates for success like promise7 said"
Read a bit more carefully
53. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
In my comment #11 I have said:
"So in my opinion say that company's existence depends on how fast are updates is just plain silly."
And in your comment #26 you have said:
"I don't agree with you."
55. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4154; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
I'm sorry, I should have been more clear, I should have said "I don't agree with you entirely."
You were assuming that the average consumer can't tell the difference between the software they are running and don't really care, which is only partially true. They can be oblivious to a lot of things, but if a feature is put in front of them, they can figure it out and miss those features. Then suddenly they think, "Why don't I have those features? Why won't (insert OEM here) send me that update?"
Updates don't completely make or break a company like promise7 said. But at the same time, consumers, no matter how oblivious they are, can be aware that they are behind in updates and turn away from an OEM because of it.
12. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4154; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
HTC's problem isn't slow updates as it is lack of updates. The Sensation got it's ICS update within the same time frame that the Galaxy S2 did, and the same is true when comparing the One X to the Galaxy S3 with Jelly Bean. But, the Sensation was never updated to Jelly Bean while the GS2 was, and the One X probably won't see Key Lime Pie while the GS3 will.
47. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
Exactly, you got it right on, its not about the speed of the updates but how long they support a device ..its why I stick with Samsung flagships as they tend to be supported longer and your almost sure of 2 major updates at least.
48. joey_sfb (Posts: 3838; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
I agreed with you its just a matter of time when one of their friend let them know, "look my samsung S2 phone bought same time as yours has jellybean, how about your HTC sensation?"
That person would probably be ME!!
52. b1acktiger (Posts: 212; Member since: 19 May 2012)
I think, this link will tell you all the answers to your question. Updates are depends upon silicon vendors a mainly.
30. flynfree (Posts: 374; Member since: 09 Jun 2013)
Almost five months since the launch of HTC One, they says a month or two, they will updating it, now they will skip 4.2 for 4.3,and maybe they change their mind again and skip the4.3 for 5 klp...they are on the right track to downfall.
33. Jonathan41 (Posts: 532; Member since: 22 Mar 2012)
Right because everyone knows that SKIPPING updates that your company worked on for months so EVEN your US Carrier customers have the latest software is the wrong thing to do.
60. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
the problem i have with this skipping is that the international versions already have 4.2.2 so we know htc pretty much have the update ready to go and the us carriers just need to give the green light..the thing is if the 4.2.2 update is ready to then why not just release it and when the 4,3 is ready give that.
10. imkyle (Posts: 1035; Member since: 18 Nov 2010)
Lets see if they do a Key Lime Pie update for the US models.
14. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)
I honestly doubt it will ever get updated past 4.3. The HTC One's "replacement" will be out soon with a snapdragon 800 and such.
35. Jonathan41 (Posts: 532; Member since: 22 Mar 2012)
The HTC One Max is not a replacement for the HTC One. Thats like saying the new Note is meant to replace the SG4. Which would be wrong.
38. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)
No an upgraded HTC One.
They did the same thing with the One X, the One X Plus came out and support for the One X died.
15. addicted2088 (Posts: 53; Member since: 25 Sep 2012)
Um, McKenzie was talking about the developer edition of the HTC One, which runs Sense and is sold in the U.S., not the standard HTC One variant. The latter will still get 4.2.2 first.
19. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4154; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
PA addressed this in the article.
"This may only be for the HTC One Dev edition, which is what the question was about, but since the dev edition is just an unlocked HTC One, it seems likely the plan will be the same for all One devices in the U.S."
20. addicted2088 (Posts: 53; Member since: 25 Sep 2012)
Yes, but isn't the Dev version also free of any carrier bloat and apps?
23. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4154; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Yes, but carrier bloatware doesn't mean HTC can't skip to 4.3 on the carrier versions of the One, it just means the dev edition will get it first.
Carriers update goes like this; the manufacturer gives the software to the carrier, the carrier loads all their apps onto it, tests it for a while, and then send it to the consumers. All HTC has to do is send the 4.3 update to the carriers instead of 4.2.
27. flynfree (Posts: 374; Member since: 09 Jun 2013)
On that time my hTc One is already sold!!!
Just waiting the S4 with sd800.
Good luck to you hTc.
31. Taters (Posts: 3751; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
HTC sucks and by the time 4.3 comes out for HTC devices, 5.0 will be out. That is a Google thing though. They release like 3 a year, no one can keep up with that.
If Google just did 3, 4, 5 once a year like IOS it would be easy if everyone knew the release date. But instead Google does 4.0 ICS, 4.1 JB, 4.1.2, 4.2.2, 4.3 etc. with most being slightly more than minor updates.
Google should try and do something like this. Have a meeting with Samsung, HTC, Moto, Sony, and whoever they think is an important Android player, and tell them to not plan their flagships until 5.0 KLP is ready. Google can just not release the source code until all the major players are ready to skin it. Then repeat. Don't even let a peep of 6.0 lollipop escape until everyone is ready again. That might change the cycle from 3 a year to 1 every 1.5 years but at least the stupid Apple fans will not have the excuse about Apple being better with updates. Despite the fact that some Android devices get their first major update in 3 months vs. the 1 year it takes Apple devices.
37. Jonathan41 (Posts: 532; Member since: 22 Mar 2012)
First off. HTC doesn't suck.
Who cares what Apple fans say? Don't fault Google for constantly working on giving it's customers the latest software as soon as possible. Customers that are worried about having updates as soon as they are released have the option of getting a device running stock android from anyone of those carriers that you listed which would have updates from Google on day one. For other devices people can buy unlocked phones if they don't want to wait on the carriers. If you buy a phone on contract you should know that that mean that the CARRIER has the final say on when you get your update. I think that the manufacturers are doing just fine. It's the carriers that are have trouble keeping up with their boatware updates. I agree that Google's updates come at a fast pace but, I don't have a problem with it. It just shows that Google is working around the clock to improve Android. Getting updates first is also a great perk to buying an unlocked phone instead of leasing one from the carriers. This is something that helps Google with the sale of Nexus devices.
36. kabir02 (Posts: 18; Member since: 16 Dec 2010)
Htc needed such strategy aforetime. Am happy they tap unto it.
39. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6950; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
Well this is a surprise. at least they skipped 4.2.2 if they delayed 4.3 they will piss off a lot of HTC ONE OWNERS that won't get 4.3
40. Gguy8 (Posts: 10; Member since: 11 Jun 2013)
So, basically, verizon customers are actually getting screwed because we will have to wait forever for that update while everyone else gets this one....nice.
45. RomeoJDR (Posts: 242; Member since: 09 Dec 2011)
Classic HTC. Be glad they're holding off for 4.3, because you shouldn't expect more than one update from them before they drop support for your phone.
50. belovedson (Posts: 832; Member since: 30 Nov 2010)
its funny how so many people forget how htc operates since the htc one. i agree with romeo if you ever owned a htc product. its one upgrade and done.....history
59. JadeMoon (Posts: 40; Member since: 12 Aug 2012)
This is why I wish I went with Samsung. HTC is starting to hit me with a bitter taste. Thanks for nothing HTC- yet another promise we will never see.