HTC One vs Nokia Lumia 920 vs 808 PureView: technical comparison
0. phoneArena 21 Feb 2013, 07:50 posted on
“The myth that the more megapixels a camera has the better the pictures, is a big fat lie.” That is how HTC daringly started talking about its hugely important HTC One…
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2. zhiae (Posts: 187; Member since: 26 Aug 2012)
whata hell they are talking about i dont get it
it is better or not ?
8. windroid (unregistered)
It's a "technical comparison" they are analyzing each camera technical specifications. It's not intended to be a winner here.
152. zhiae (Posts: 187; Member since: 26 Aug 2012)
thank you Windroid
what about pixels do you think pictures can be zoomed i mean in details i think not and what i think is over 2 mp., photos quality will be on cam sensor
after all i dont know how may be like .
265. dexter_jdr (Posts: 1163; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)
i wanna post this on top
12. Victor.H (Posts: 522; Member since: 27 May 2011)
You might want to read the article first.
96. SamsungFan (Posts: 201; Member since: 16 Apr 2012)
Those nokia fools are talking without reading the article. I'm a samsung fan. But love the improvements made in technology. You nokia fans have to accept htc one is better than stupid lumias
117. lumia920 (Posts: 112; Member since: 27 Nov 2012)
if adding more ram and processor is improvement then yes you are right.
but the real thing is innovation, samsung is nothing just a copy cat. your beloved samsung pays a huge amount of their hard earn money to his father, apple. and apple pays to his father, i.e, nokia. from this you can conclude that nokia is the grand father of your beloved samsung.
122. SamsungFan (Posts: 201; Member since: 16 Apr 2012)
Oh I didn't know that. That may be the reason why nokia sold their headquarters and start selling other things. That may be because they got a lot of money from Apple and samsung :-D
128. lumia920 (Posts: 112; Member since: 27 Nov 2012)
if you don't know that then shut your mouth... we don't need your speculations.
188. Toivoja (Posts: 7; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)
You can think of it this way: Nokia sold their HQ as they are going through a transition phase and as they have laid of people, they don't need as much space as they needed before. There are numerous companies have rented their HQ as they want to concentrate on what they do best.
Ps. as Samsung provides components for Apple and Nokia, I wonder how much of the components info goes to Samsungs "R&D"?
239. chadrick0814 (Posts: 208; Member since: 23 Nov 2011)
Last I checked, 70% of iPhone is made by Samsung. So who is paying whom? Also, I didn't realize that Samsung had already paid apple a dime from the court cases. Thanks for enlightening us. But you are correct in one aspect, MS does make more money from android sales than WP sales...which is unfortunate.
258. SamsungFan (Posts: 201; Member since: 16 Apr 2012)
Those nokia trolls don't know anything.
266. bon24x7 (Posts: 205; Member since: 30 Aug 2012)
do you? you don't sound like you know either.. -_-
275. SamsungFan (Posts: 201; Member since: 16 Apr 2012)
I think I know better than nokia fools
289. Altair (Posts: 367; Member since: 02 Feb 2012)
May I ask what you know? I've checked few of your comments. All of them just looks trolling.
261. lumia920 (Posts: 112; Member since: 27 Nov 2012)
samsung pays royalties to apple, as they were found guilty and sued by apple.
all of this and comment # 117 exposes the truth.
124. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3135; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
If indeed you love technology, you wouldn't have called anything, let alone Lumia, stupid. You don't love technology, i'm not even sure if you know it well.
Just admit that you hate Nokia...that'll be much better.
133. SamsungFan (Posts: 201; Member since: 16 Apr 2012)
I don't hate nokia. I said 808 has the best camera but not the lumia. I hate nokia trolls but I don't hate nokia
136. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3135; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
Ok, fine...you love Nokia. But you shouldn't have said stupid. That beats your love for technology.
By the way, 920 triggered the making of One's camera sensor...so think before you say anything.
146. SamsungFan (Posts: 201; Member since: 16 Apr 2012)
Sorry I just felt angry with those nokia trolls
138. lumia920 (Posts: 112; Member since: 27 Nov 2012)
yes 808 has the best camera.. and second is 920.
148. SamsungFan (Posts: 201; Member since: 16 Apr 2012)
Stop trolling buddy.
Don't say that I'm also a troll because I love samsung but now im on htc's side because simply one is the best camera phone out there. And that what is called true innovation
189. Toivoja (Posts: 7; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)
Wait... then where did the 808 go? or N8? or L920?
259. SamsungFan (Posts: 201; Member since: 16 Apr 2012)
Nokia 808 has the best camera followed by nokia n8 and in the third place its htc one .
262. dexter_jdr (Posts: 1163; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)
uhmm hi samsungfan...
268. bon24x7 (Posts: 205; Member since: 30 Aug 2012)
you do realize that every so called 'innovative' thing mentioned here about HTC one has been already on a Nokia phone right?
ultrapixel == go back 6 yrs and check N95
image stabilization == check nokia 920 from last year ( works to 1/7.5sec on HTC vs Nokia's 1/3 sec)
night shot == check nokia 920 again.
since when does coming up with an already existing idea called innovation?? no wonder you're a samsung fan...
290. Altair (Posts: 367; Member since: 02 Feb 2012)
Yeah, dont forget design. HTC one is pure iPhone copycat. Lawsuits will come afterwards for sure.
248. shashi.map (Posts: 30; Member since: 16 Oct 2011)
The Improvements in technology were started by Nokia .....and not your favorite copycat Samsung.....samsung adds ram and cpu cores ,bump the screen & camera a bit and call it the best.......nothing innovative there i see.......dual core lumia can make a quad core droid sweat it terms of speed & fludity
260. SamsungFan (Posts: 201; Member since: 16 Apr 2012)
A droid can do many things which a wp can't. And I don't hate nokia but I hate wp. It would be better for nokia if they redesigned symbian instead of using wp
296. shashi.map (Posts: 30; Member since: 16 Oct 2011)
Re-desinging Symbian or MeeGo......never gonna happen untill that trojan elop is there in nokia
279. maccess (Posts: 707; Member since: 16 Jan 2013)
lol.. a type of comment from a butthurt fanboy.. we costumers never claimed samsung is the best.. but the volume of the sales speak by itself..
284. dexter_jdr (Posts: 1163; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)
people just think samsung is better coz they see ads all around. i blame nokia for bad marketing.
295. shashi.map (Posts: 30; Member since: 16 Oct 2011)
hey i dont hate samsung to the core or anything, it's just that i want to see a really innovative smartphone from them. The SGS2 & note-1 were my favourite's,and then they got their sequels s3 & n2 nothing of these two really impressed me that much,It was like they added 2cores and bumped the screen....... i really liked what nokia did with the lumia 920 (L800,L900 were never good),the OIS ,supersensitive screen were some welcome improvements for smartphones and nokia was there first to implement them
21. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3135; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
Written up there are the plus points and minus points. You should "like totally check it out" before you get a screamin'.
Thanks Victor, this article should help people like me, understand how camera works inside our smart phones.
If HTC One does manage to outperform the 920 in the low light category, it will raise the bar to a whole new level again! Competition is good!
3. _Bone_ (Posts: 2148; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
The sensor size and aperture is actually impressive, but ironically what HTC says, that the MP count doesn't matter applies to them as well, so just because the One has 4 million single pixels it doesn't mean it will capture more details than say the 920 of same sensor size with smaller but more pixels. The samples I've seen so far are perfectly okay in low-light conditions, but under more light, they don't stand out at all, as a matter of fact there are rivals that look sharper at higher resolution than the One does at just 4MPs.
In any case one should give HTC A for effort, what a phone!
9. Victor.H (Posts: 522; Member since: 27 May 2011)
We would not rush on judging the HTC One by those camera samples right away. We have included them for reference, but the device is expected to ship in March and we wouldn't be too surprised if HTC took those extra few weeks to make some more improvements on the camera software.
34. _Bone_ (Posts: 2148; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
Looking forward to release performance and comparison, can you include BOTH Exmor RS devices?
149. _Bone_ (Posts: 2148; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
Can you do the comparison shots on the girl on the HTC ad?
4. erick01 (Posts: 22; Member since: 10 Sep 2012)
What nonsense article: are you comparing the cameras? the phones? the OSs?
37. FireDragon (Posts: 107; Member since: 13 Nov 2009)
The article is trying to introduce us to the camera technology used in smartphones.
70. jsdechavez (Posts: 708; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)
I think they are praising and lowballing Nokia's efforts at the same time with Pureview and implying that HTC has beaten Nokia with an Android over WP... Thin (One) over thick (808)...
BIASED article definitely.
This article was merely posted to promote HTC One. Not that it really is better than the phone camera king, Nokia.
Let's wait about HTC has to say when the Nokia EOS comes out. Can't wait for that! hahah
130. lolol (Posts: 64; Member since: 14 Nov 2012)
Totally agree with you! If pa does a camera comparison I know who's going to win =P when they include a phone without latest updates for the camera, biased, can't wait till Nokia EOS comes out..
7. Siaw_Yong (Posts: 12; Member since: 09 Dec 2012)
Wow! A 4.3MP camera beats an 8 MP camera from nexus 4. I can hardly imagine if the HTC One has a bigger MP+Ultrapixel :O. It'll be Lumia 920 hardest competitor in camera department.
10. p5yb0rg (unregistered)
I'm very skeptical about this 4.3 MP or "ultrapixel" business. There's a chance it may work because lower pixels generally result in smaller sized files, leaving more room for pics. So, smaller sized pics and better quality = win. However, falling below the industry's 5 MP standard could be a huge fail. Let's see how it plays out in quality and vs the competetors.
13. asingha94 (Posts: 294; Member since: 08 Apr 2012)
Thanks PA! afterall nokia 808 is in comparison list.They should withdraw the nickname ULTRAPIXEL!!
28. alterecho (Posts: 1094; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)
Unaware people will think it is worse than other Android 5mpx camera phones. HTC can't have that, after all their efforts(?). So they need to tell, the uninitiated, its different than the others. So i think their marketing term is justified in this case.
14. trustory (Posts: 117; Member since: 23 Jan 2013)
How come phonearena doesn't go this in depth with every review of a smartphone so we can objectively compare cameras?
17. amansingal14 (Posts: 306; Member since: 08 Sep 2012)
because its a technical comparison, sir...
36. Victor.H (Posts: 522; Member since: 27 May 2011)
A lot of that has to do with the stalled development of smartphone cameras where we basically get more megapixels every year. The HTC One brings change, and I'm pretty sure you will start seeing more depth that goes with it in our reviews.
172. -box- (Posts: 3959; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
I would disagree with the "more megapixels every year". Nokia had the 12MP N8 in 2010, but their 2012 flagship has only 8.7 (we all know that the 808's shots tend to be distilled to 5-8MP with the "oversampling" featue). HTC had the 16MP Titan2 last year, now their flagship has 4.3, previously 8. I'll grant that Pantech has upped its MP count with the Discover, having 13 compared to the usual 5 or 8, but most OEMs are remaining at the 8MP for the most part, but improving the optics, as well as the other components (BSI vs FSI, for instance, and adding OIS and dual-LED or Xenon flashes).
232. tashreef (Posts: 476; Member since: 24 Nov 2012)
next time while doing comparison please let someone else from PA do it.. your conclusion looks more biased than technical
15. preet27in (banned) (Posts: 173; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
welll it shows all. htc has rather taken a bold and better step towards improving the camers. it is clear in those pictures that megapixels actually dosent matter. pictures r damn clear and definately better than htc one x or any other smartphone of this catagory. its equivalent or better than nokia 920 atleast if not 808 pureview. techinical specifications show u all.HTC UR THE BEST. this move is highly APPRECIABLE as now other companies got some work to do with those cameras. the design is ultimate and top most compared to any other phone design. BEST OF LUCK. KEEP ROCKING HTC.
16. amansingal14 (Posts: 306; Member since: 08 Sep 2012)
There are three levels of camera understanding -
Low - MPs, Zoom and all
Mediocre - Sensor Size, Pixel Size and all
High/The Most Basic Level - Algorithm, Practicality, Logical reasoning and all...
For Example, only the lens moves to provide OIS in the HTC one, thus providing a very low level of it. But since the whole optical assembly moves, although slower, thus providing ten times better OIS in the Nokia
Simply speaking, HTC is jus taking you from Low level to mediocre level, thus faking you even more, but Nokia is jus making you think at low evel and is itself thinking at the last level.
Also, about the algorithms, Nokia already has been providing Portico update with many changes and bug fixes to the 920...
So, according to me, both Nokia(s) beat out the One completely. Not saying One would be a bad camera phone, in fact it would be great, but just doesn't have as much capability as Nokia 920/808 do in the camera department.
18. preet27in (banned) (Posts: 173; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
future will telll. wait n watch matee.atleat lumia 920 is out from competition. cheerz
20. amansingal14 (Posts: 306; Member since: 08 Sep 2012)
Lumia out of competition. Bet you didn't see portico update coming...
233. tashreef (Posts: 476; Member since: 24 Nov 2012)
oh really... you saying it before any real comparison between L920 and HTC one ... i would suggest you to watch some OIS demonstration of L920 before concluding.....