HTC One vs Nokia Lumia 920 and 720 low-light comparison (video)
0. phoneArena 28 Feb 2013, 02:31 posted on
There weren't much dark corners at the MWC expo, but the HTC booth had one, where you could check out the low-light capabilities of the newest One handset with the UltraPixel camera...
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5. tusshharish (Posts: 341; Member since: 23 Oct 2012)
nokia is best......htc one's images are too much bright and not so clear but nokia's images are descent and very clear/..............
49. amiroo (Posts: 269; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
one`s pic is bright and more detail can Be seen ..lumia is good but brightness is very less..
i pick up one.
59. shikroi (Posts: 182; Member since: 24 Sep 2012)
By detail you mean extreme noise without zooming, blown out colors and muddy edges? sure.
60. samsung_royally (banned) (Posts: 8; Member since: 27 Feb 2013)
Yeah very convincing video from the site called MYNOKIABLOG!!!
Nice try Nokia Fans!!
62. shikroi (Posts: 182; Member since: 24 Sep 2012)
What a pathetic argument. You are implying that the guy somehow managed to doctor the pics in nokia's favor even though the pics were snapped on camera and shown on camera for you eyes to see.
Shameful attempt to help htc save their face after all their ultrapixel marketing hype. BTW here is a link to android australia (android fan site) where even the blogger agreed the 920 won.
There was even that neowin comparison.
64. No_Nonsense (Posts: 826; Member since: 17 Aug 2012)
You guys are just pathetic. Can't even see the reality when its shown. Android's realty distortion anyone?
88. amiroo (Posts: 269; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
in other case camera isnt all expect that we need from a super phone..
in that case we see compare btw nokia lumia 920 and one camera but in overall and the other spc compare htc one wipe out 920 easily like smoke..
sound-screen-size-software-hardware and so so..
lumia`s camera is great no doubt but it hasnt more amazing option like one..
95. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
and what amazing options htc one has??
i don't see any revelation or anything new what hasn't been introduced yet
98. papss (unregistered)
oh you have a HTC one? so you must know..
66. dr_fajardo12 (Posts: 107; Member since: 26 Aug 2012)
i think that vs the lumia 920 htc had the iso or the saturation high, thats why it's so bright. against the 720 was fair. still nokia the best
9. Jimstar (Posts: 259; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
and who cares? It's running symbian for crap's sake, that camera could seek out the most beautiful woman in the world and show me whats under her unmentionables and I STILL wouldn't buy one over an HTC One...or a Lumia 920 for that matter.
That phone is irrelevant regardless of how good the camera is.
46. brucewayne (Posts: 29; Member since: 30 Aug 2012)
And why do you think ppl would car what YOU buy..dont think of yourself as the go-to guy before anyone wants to buy a cell..And obviously you'd be happy and GAY cos any girl who shows her unmentionables and is beatiful will do warrant a second look..
78. Jimstar (Posts: 259; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
Oh yeah sure it's just what I think right? Enlighten me then as to why Nokia had to ditch symbian. I gues I'm the only one who didn't like it. Yeah sounds like a legitimte argument you've got there.
And if you people think you actually get under my skin by using my own outlandish example against me and call into question my sexuality? You're not only sorely mistaken, but pretty lackluster at dealing out ad hominem attacks.as well. Real winner we got here!
54. weinerslav (Posts: 126; Member since: 31 Jul 2012)
Well, thank God you don't care, by your pathetic example you're not looking for a good camera, not even a good smartphone, the solution to your problems is in the internet porn, google it, and leave tech stuff to others.
74. haseebzahid (Posts: 1812; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
ROFL u need a couple of girlfriends which dont mind u going three ways
79. Jimstar (Posts: 259; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
No I definitely am looking for a good smartphone, and I'm looking for it first and foremost. Which is exactly why I don't give a damn about the 808. What use is a good camera attached to an OS that has prettymuch DIED. Stop drinking the kool-aid, and get off the fanboy wagon.
My example is pathetic? I'll refer you to the last half of my reply to "brucewayne".
81. weinerslav (Posts: 126; Member since: 31 Jul 2012)
Ta-da! If you're looking for a good smartphone why are you even criticizing the best camera phone? Yes, symbian right now is pretty much a feature phone with some cool games and essential apps but that doesn't mean that is not the best camera around, I can assure that it actually beats any camera up to entry level DSLRs. You clearly don't understand that some people need a good camera all the time, and people that does, don't care that for you a good smartphone is something where you can install 500.000 apps, respect if you want to be respected. Power is not about what you can do with it, is what you actually do.
106. Jimstar (Posts: 259; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
You sort of answered your own question. I'm interested in good smartphones...not just good camera phones. I NEVER argued that the 808 wasn't the best camera phone, but that camera alone isn't enough to keep it from being irrelevant.
Agan with the personal attacks I see? You can E.A.D. as well. Yeah I understand that some people need a good camera one them at all times...BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE THE 808 A RELEVANT DEVICE! Do you get it yet? Yes it serves a purpose, yes it's good at that purpose, but that doesn't change anything. It's not the same type of device as the One or even the Lumia 920, stop fooling yourselves.
108. Jimstar (Posts: 259; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
and by relevant I mean relevant in tday's market of flasgship smartphones
67. Bernoulli (Posts: 1437; Member since: 01 Sep 2012)
At least you can take a pix from distance with the 808 pureview, zoom in to her cleavage and crop it, bam lossless zoom at it's best
80. Jimstar (Posts: 259; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
or you could get a real camera for that, and have a decent smartphone in your pocket!
83. Bernoulli (Posts: 1437; Member since: 01 Sep 2012)
The equivalent camera would be a Cannon, it's on gsmarena.com they did a full comparison with a cannon and Haha pureview beats it by half mile, so your pathetic statement is invalid, besides you'd be the only awkward looking folk setting up their camera with a huge lens
107. Jimstar (Posts: 259; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
The more you refer to what I say as pathetic, the more I'm sure you're a chronic spanker. So whatever makes you happy cheif. And I love how you say that like that one Cannon is the only camera on the market...
Oh that'd be awkward? Setting up a camera and a lens? Well someone better tell those pro photographers that they all look so awkward then...
110. Bernoulli (Posts: 1437; Member since: 01 Sep 2012)
I have, I've gone to the extent of calling one a fag because his jeans were akwardly tight and he started to mess with me about my car, and go look onwww.gsmarena.com they also compared it to the Galaxy camera, but even online you can compare it with cameras that are 2k dollars that come barely in par with the 808 pureview, plus you wouldn't need to pull a tent to take a perfect picture if you were to use the 808 pureview
84. weinerslav (Posts: 126; Member since: 31 Jul 2012)
Or since, for the sensor size, the 808 is one of the most compact cameras around, you can carry a tablet, with decent screen size...
109. Jimstar (Posts: 259; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
yup, and you've now got a good camera, a good(i'd hope) tablet...and a subpar smartphone.
94. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
we'll see htc's revenue and how irrelevant htc one is
57. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3946; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Why even bother? No camera in a smartphone coming out within the next 1 or 2 years will get close to the 808 in terms of quality. Nokia will make a successor to the 808 before another smartphone even gets close to that quality. You know why? Because the 808 is a niche device that only appeals to the very, VERY small part of the market; and most people would rather buy a separate dedicated camera and another phone before buying the 808.
Sure, Nokia makes the best cameras, especially the 808. However, the 808 is nearly twice the thickness of the One (including the camera bump), and it runs an outdated OS.
The cons HEAVILY outweigh the pros on One vs. 808.
87. haseebzahid (Posts: 1812; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
808 was defenetly a prototype most of its part it wasnt even given a marketing to sale it wide just showed on photo stunts so people can have idea about it and the mean reson was this research was going on for like 5 years on symbian so it was bad to drop the prototype
91. sbw44 (Posts: 384; Member since: 04 Dec 2012)
HTC, Sony, Apple, Samsung are actually all trying to catch up to the N8 let alone 808 PV!
2. blahUNimpressed (Posts: 2; Member since: 28 Feb 2013)
OWNED!! htc one suks with all the noise. I bet the s4 will be just as bad and lets not use the "this is a prototype" BS
41. Retro-touch (Posts: 252; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
I learned that BS really BS after awhile too when pre-production and production really turned out the same, SGS2 was the exception before release and after in terms of performance
3. tiara6918 (Posts: 1355; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)
Htc has to improve the image quality on the one before they release it, otherwise no one will believe their ultrapixel technology
6. D.Aceveda (Posts: 359; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)
I don't know why people are shocked or surprised. Ultrapixels are better for low light as you can see in the videos. However, MEGAPIXELS increase the pixels in an imagine giving more detail as you zoom
Looking at both images. The HTC One captures far more light and the image wasn't as dark but the moment you zoom in....it goes to hell.
11. MrJerry (Posts: 392; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)
Without zoom in, the pic still sucks.
And the better low light you mentioned?
What's the point in having more light with really poor detail?
So basically Ultrapixel give us a light filter and the deterioration in the rest of camera quality?
12. haseebzahid (Posts: 1812; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
correct it worked better took more light infact too much light to give the picture right + ultra high noise isnt good for a flagship since they stated ultrapixle will reduce the noise well that didnt went well in this pic they need to adjust it more
14. Stoli89 (Posts: 333; Member since: 28 Jun 2010)
I'm not convinced the brighter result on the HTC was solely due to larger pixels and not aided by over processing, because the noise/artifacts are excessive. All have relatively larger aperatures for smartphones (i.e. HTC One w/2.0, Lumia 920 w/2.0, and Lumia 720 w/1.9). BSI sensor sizes are: HTC One (4MP)=1/3, Lumia 920 (8.7MP)=1/3, Lumia 720 (6.7MP)= 1/3.6. To note, the 920 has a patented OIS across the entire camera module while the HTC uses traditional OIS on one lens element.
True, larger native pixels help in photo 'capture' per unit time...but this alone does not guarantee improved low light performance.
Frankly, I was surprised by the 720 results. For its relatively small sensor, the 720 demonstrated that top notch optics, large aperature and solid processing can make a significant difference, even without OIS.
63. shikroi (Posts: 182; Member since: 24 Sep 2012)
HTC definitely used some bad algorithms. it seems to be a habit of theirs. Even the one x had artifacting issues.
112. jsdechavez (Posts: 701; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)
@shikroi, and I can't take these htc fans swearing they have the best cameras in smartphones.. omg. lol. sourgrapes much, perhaps?
7. PhoenixWright (Posts: 99; Member since: 11 Feb 2013)
They had a dark room so that it would be easier to do a comparison for other cameras/smartphones?
Guess the dark room backfired, Muahahaha :D
Lumia 920 reproduced the environment better. The ONE got a lot more exposure.
Soooooooo HTC, Higher MPs don't equate to better pictures huh?
Can wait for the 808 comparison, specially in the dark :D
17. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 2999; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
HTC has the dark spot for testing which Nokia made good use of.
19. haseebzahid (Posts: 1812; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
808 wasnt best for dark but it dont take lot of noise in low light either
101. applesauce (banned) (Posts: 165; Member since: 26 Aug 2012)
True, but the 808 PureView captures more of the image with its giant sensor l, so a fair amount of the difference can be made up in post processing . Plus it has that EXCELLENT Xenon flash
18. sbergman (Posts: 6; Member since: 26 Jan 2013)
It is ridiculous that HTC based so much on the marketing of the camera and a 300$ phone beat it.
22. redmd (Posts: 868; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
the video itself had me nauseated.
the source will tell you the winner. definitely nokia have done best with their sensors.
but I dont like to take pictures at low light. next they should compare pictures in daylight.
24. droidluvngurl (Posts: 11; Member since: 27 Feb 2013)
Nokia took this one. I guess to get a good low light pic with the Htc you'd have to manipulate the ISO settings settings.
28. yero789 (unregistered)
HTC One caught more light when compared with Nokia Lumia 920,but I would say that Lumia 920's photo was a lot better and the colors were accurate,while HTC One's photos had a lot of blurr.Nokia 720 is a mid-ranfe device,but it did pretty good job,I think it was equal with HTC One with picture quality,because it had a little blurr too,but I mean for a mid-range device,it's awesome :D
29. UrbanPhantom (Posts: 949; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)
There's no question the Lumia's have better cam's. You can easily bring up the levels in photoshop, but it's much harder to get rid of excess noise. Having images with sharp and crisp details is always better when it comes to photographics...
34. UrbanPhantom (Posts: 949; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)
To the JackA33 who gave thumbs down: you try eliminating noise from your photos, without resorting to blurring the image, or other techniques that lose detail. Oh wait, you have no skills or knowledge related to graphic design and photography! Go figure ;o)
35. lallolu (Posts: 229; Member since: 18 Sep 2012)
HTC should have just simply used a 13mp camera with good camera software.
Hope they have good sales on the HTC One but I for one am not going to buy it.
37. lelouchltm (Posts: 8; Member since: 03 May 2012)
Ultrapixel sucks, Nokia's handset still the best photophone ever.
40. pwnarena (Posts: 843; Member since: 15 Feb 2013)
they should have tested the xperia z to prove how useless increases in megapixels are since that was their main pitch with the ultrapixel technology. i've seen samples online and there're no significant differences. only a wider field of view for htc one. thankfully, htc one videos aren't as shaky as the xz's.
47. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Nokia yet again compared in low light.
How about comparing it in NORMAL CONDITIONS for once?
Uh, no that wouldn't be interesting to Nokia fans.
Because Lumia LOSES against the competition in normal condition still imagery!