HTC One is 3rd best selling phone in the U.S. and it hasn't hit Verizon yet
0. phoneArena 18 Jun 2013, 09:22 posted on
There has been a lot of talk about the HTC One sales, mostly due to the state of HTC. There have been a number of high profile employees leaving the company, the HTC One had production delays, and founder/CEO Peter Chou has even gone so far as to say he would step down if the HTC One is a failure. Well, it looks like that won't be necessary, because the HTC One is apparently the 3rd best selling phone in the U.S...
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9. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 3427; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
It is one SUPER SEXY device & that is why it's selling so well. Samsung needs to see that an all metal phone indeed is functional & can make a difference.
There are wispers that HTC might be coming out with a 5.9" HTC One Phablet to DIRECTLY challenge the Samsung Galaxy Note III. If this does materialize I am DEFINITELY going to check it out.
I always root so if the HTC comes with A) a metal body, B) a 5.9" SLCD 3, C) the Qualcomm S800 quad-core at 2.3GHz & D) the FRONT Stereo speakers, then that will be my next phone.
Why get a Samsung Galaxy Note III is it's going to have a Super AMOLED, the Exynos Octa, & be made of plastic with a rear speaker?
This fall will be awesome, either way BOTH phones will be epic but if HTC does release a Phablet sized HTC One then I am there!!!
11. wendygarett (unregistered)
You can always get an android tablets if you want the big fat screen device, because I don't think your beloved Verizon will offer HTC one as Verizon fail to locate the proper logo on device, trust me, they never will :)
16. feres13 (Posts: 295; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)
The one is coming to verizon, it has been confirmed
28. flynfree (Posts: 372; Member since: 09 Jun 2013)
That's good decision of hTc to not have place Verizon logo on front. Ha ha ha! !! :-)
29. flynfree (Posts: 372; Member since: 09 Jun 2013)
Or maybe Verizon will replace the hTc logo.
19. Whateverman (Posts: 3150; Member since: 17 May 2009)
You said it SAE, what's up dude! I love my Note 2, but the Note 3 may take second place if the T6 rumors are true. Especially if there's a stylus with it. I know a lot of people say they don't need one, but I use the S Pen all the time. So if this beast has on, I'm all over it!!!
31. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 3427; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
I really mean it. These phones now a days are so damn powerful that you really can't tell. So if they are similar in performance then looks would have to be the last differentiator.
I have seen & played with a HTC One & that phone indeed is pure sex appeal. The plastics aren’t bad but there is something premium about metal done right.
HTC is showing that there is a market for looks out there. People are buying the HTC One even though it's not the technically BEST out there. But the performance is getting to the point that it's VERY hard to say phone A is performing better than phone B.
BUT most people will say phone A LOOKS better than phone B. HTC is definitely winning in the looks department.
Like I said if HTC makes a HTC One Phablet, I by force will have to check it out & it it's just as powerful or even more powerful than the Samsung Galaxy Note III then it's a win/go for me because the Note III is going to look like a Galaxy S IV unless Samsung has a TOTAL change of heart.
Let's see what Samsung does with its Note III.
20. Jason2k13 (Posts: 464; Member since: 28 Mar 2013)
why get a samsung galaxy note III? well i think the galaxy note II pretty much speaks for itself.
Theres more to a phone, than just looks.
26. g2a5b0e (Posts: 1793; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
You're becoming my new favorite person around here pretty quickly. He acts as if his personal preference will be the same for everyone. For some people (apparently, most people), phones made of plastic are not a problem. While I will concede that those dual-front facing speakers are beyond anything on any other phone right now, that would definitely not be enough to sway me back to HTC for now.
35. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 3427; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
My personal preference is MY personal preference. I don't speak for anyone. You can do whatever you want with your money.
I you want to buy a Nathan's Hotdog & make calls with it so be it. Whatever floats your boat.
My thing is why would anyone get a Samsung Galaxy Note III if it's going to have a inferior screen, Super AMOLED is not as good as SLCD 3. Also the Qualcomm S800 is a more powerful processor than the Exynos Octa. Also the new HTC will have the boss STEREO speakers in the FRONT of the phone not the back. Ohh & the sexy metal casing. Will you really choose plastic over metal?
I was just stating differences & what I like. I never was imposing my will on anyone. Samsung makes a fine looking phone, BUT you have to admit that HTC makes a BETTER looking phone..... right?
32. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 3427; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
You said it yourself the Note II is good enough for you then fine, more power to you. The Note II won't have the same level of competition the Note III will.
Also if the Note III & the HTC One Phablet if it does come out, is on par with the Note III, WILL you get the Note III?
You would choose plastic over metal? Or are looks just not that important?
48. SuperMaoriBro (Posts: 149; Member since: 23 Jun 2012)
Guys get a room. Get a clue. Get a life. just stfu.
54. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 3427; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Ok, did Bowser take a big bite out of your a$$? lol
61. Slammer (Posts: 716; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
---"are looks just not that important?"---
Looks are very important. But at what point do we step aside and not look at long term issues that might arise out of such new path we choose? Do we really need a phone that has all metal with no way to keep expenses down when bringing the phone in for repair? Why can't we have both metal and accessibility? How will a sealed body determine insurance rates to those that purchase devices that have to require jaws of life to change parts? Do you not care about this?
We need compromise for consumer balance. Why do we suddenly allow companies we like to tell us what we can or can't do with products we purchase but destroy the ones that we hate for the same reason?
71. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 3427; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
With insurance mobile phones get replaced. Only a select few are like yourself who will repair their own devices.
Most folks out there are not that knowledgable.
73. Slammer (Posts: 716; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
I don't repair my own wireless devices. I do, however, replace my own batteries and SD cards. Most consumers know how to do that and I feel rather insulted that a manufacturer would remove that choice. Most insurance companies allow two claims in which should be saved to cover more extensive issues that arise. Not wasting it on battery issues. This is just a negligent use of 100 dollars a year when a battery can be bought for 35 dollars saving the claim for more detrimental problems.
I'm a service technician for very expensive equipment. I can't count how many times a 10,000 dollar product was rendered useless due to dead battery. The customer replacing it themselves, gets them on their way and saves them 125 dollars for me to come out on an emergency call to do it. I don't know why people don't get this. It is common sense. Are you not a consumer out side of the wireless industry? Purchasing TV remotes just because of dead batteries. Bringing your car to a repair shop because you have no way of getting to the battery. Boats, flashlights, radios, cordless phones, Battery operated lawn mowers, screw drivers. I could go on and on. Few of these maybe considered throw away items, Expensive products such as phones are not and the manufacturers and service centers are banking on consumer cash flow for the most common fails And when this happens, insurance companies raise their rates to compensate for these claims. Batteries have not changed in engineering design. Shapes and sizes don't fix the overall fail rate of batteries.
I don't know about you, but I would prefer no more cash grabs for the most simple of repairs.
57. Slammer (Posts: 716; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
---"Samsung needs to see that an all metal phone indeed is functional & can make a difference."---
I was unaware that Polycarbonate rendered a phone useless in function. From where I'm sitting, my S4 is the most functional phone I have ever owned(and most of my friend's as well). How do we explain this?
I realize that material has become more an issue than function for some, but, people really need to learn how to articulate better points of argument when dismissing a material that has been used on phones for almost 3 decades.
By your statement, a Corvette ZR1 is not as functional as a Geo Metro because it is not metal.
65. General-Levy- (banned) (Posts: 66; Member since: 18 Jun 2013)
The S4 build and design looks way much better than the S3, tho the S2 looks better than the S3,S4,S1.
Consumers think the build quality is bad on the S4, but it's not that bad, except the back cover is glossy hard plastic.
70. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 3427; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
You misunderstand me. Polycarbonate is not useless at all. You are putting words in my mouth.
Samsung has been on record to say that metal phones interfere with mobile & Wi-Fi data signals. That is one major reason why they go plastic.
You are getting a bit ahead of yourself. I am a Samsung & a HTC fan but the HTC's lately just look better.
My HTC Droid DNA is a unibody design, first I have ever owned, & you know what.... it's not so bad.
For the time it takes you to open your Samsung Galaxy S IV to remove your battery or remove your SD card I can connect my USB cable and remove my pics & data. I clearly get more than 20 hours on a single charge with moderate usage so battery life is a moot point from my stand point.
These phones now are insanely powerful that the difference to the human eye is suttle at most. The future of mobile devices will be driven by looks now more than power because of what I just stated.
74. Slammer (Posts: 716; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
---"These phones now are insanely powerful that the difference to the human eye is suttle at most. The future of mobile devices will be driven by looks now more than power because of what I just stated."---
There is an old saying that one should not always trust their eyes.
Most of my service calls are on complex, computer driven equipment. Am I complaining? No. It allows me to make a great living. As a consumer however, I like things simple and free as possible from visiting service centers for the dumbest of problems.
I find it very odd that tech geeks on these sights overlook the weakest part of any electronic device that requires on board DC voltage and trust the durability with a 700, 800 or 900 dollar handheld product.
78. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 3427; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Look when you pay upward of 700, 800, or 900 dollars as you say, a little TLC is due. I mean all things in life breakdown. That goes for the smartphone to the human body but it should be unspoken that taking care of your investment is a must.
I trust looks & build quality, & most pros who review smartphones agree that HTC devices for YEARS now are just better built devices with great parts & great design.
Sure when you mass produce millions a lemon comes out here & there, but for the most part HTC's reputation is stellar in the mobile world, & lately it's tops in the industry.
76. Slammer (Posts: 716; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
---"For the time it takes you to open your Samsung Galaxy S IV to remove your battery or remove your SD card I can connect my USB cable and remove my pics & data."---
Fair point. However, my last phone was an HTC and it suffered a broken USB port. Two things sequentially, saved my rear in having accessibility to parts on the phone.
With a broken USB port, I could not charge the phone. The removable battery allowed me to remove it and place it in a desktop charger while using the other battery. Secondly,The broken USB port would not allow retrieval of info stored in memory if not for the removable SD card. These are the value in why I support the option.
With only a few months left in contract at the time, already spending money monthly on insurance then having to cough up another 150 dollars for exchange, I felt economically safer saving that money to put on the new phone instead.
77. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 3427; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
You are talking worst case scenarios. I am sure some people experience what you claim but phones now a days are made to take a beating.
My USB/MHL port works like a champ with no issues what so ever.
Unibody design is not a big deal as it was say a couple of years ago. I know because I was the same guy just like yourself.
79. Slammer (Posts: 716; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
---" You are talking worst case scenarios."---
It was not a worse case scenerio because my phone was able to maintain most of its functionality. By implementing sealed batteries and memory, your worst case scenerio now becomes real. No way to instantly rectify a problem and your phone is rendered completely useless. This is what companies want. Revenue through every failure possible.
No offense, but phones now days don't seem to be holding up as well as the bag phone, brick phone and flip phones I had for years without issue. Granted, our smarphones are computers and are subject to extreme interaction and all types of issues. But, why should we have to worry about who we take these things in for a battery issue?
I don't think you are viewing the entire scope of the landscape here. I think you are following status quo of consumers that fall for something new without thinking about long term repercussions that "could" happen. This is important because we should be thinking of keeping our investment as functional as possible without the meddling of third party servicing of stupid problems. "Paying" someone to replace your battery seems petty and unnecessary. Don't you. agree? If you give me your address, I can send you a battery out of another HTC that was only 15 months old and has sworn so bad, it no longer fits in the phone. Imagine if this was in a sealed phone never to be discovered.
Don't you feel one bit violated that you are at the mercy of the manufacturer and service centers for something so minuscule as replacing a highly vulnerable part of your phone?
I feel I am correct in my experiences as a technician for over 30 years. Taking it or leaving it is certainly society's choice. However, I welcome those customers that don't heed my helpful hints while they pay me dollars for repairs.
80. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 3427; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Ok fine, your experiences have been very bad from the gist of all your posts. I thought like you, I really did BUT my experiences are not like yours.
Todays smartphones in general are more delicate than the other phones you mention because of the glass surface on them. Those other phones you mention are strictly plastic devices.
These phones now just get replaced. It could be one with a removable back or one that is of unibody design, that is the nature of the business. I am not going to pass up a BETTER device because it doesn't have a removable back. I am fine with a large non removable batteries & an all metal casing if the phone is top tier & very good looking.
You would sacrifice looks & get a worse looking phone even though performance was EXACTLY the same just because the uglier phone had a removable back?
Then more power to you, BUT HTC is showing that quality & design do sell & are MAJOR differentiators.
To each is own.
81. Slammer (Posts: 716; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
I won't argue on what you like or dislike. Preferences are personal.
However, these are not just my experiences. The battey I mentioned as being Swollen, was not of my phone but from a colleague's. I also have another battery from a friend which was 14 months old. It looks brand new but it has this knack of showing half a charge then the phone shuts off. When you reboot it. The indicator shows complete discharge meaning the anode and cathode shorts after a couple hours of use. If this were a sealed phone, imagine the frustration you would endure knowing you can't power the phone up until the battery is replaced. Placing a charger into the USB port under this condition could cause the faulty battery to explode. In either case, both these phones were out of warranty and they just purchased new batteries at minimal cost escaping insurance claims.
The other issue is the way aluminum transfers heat. A sealed phone on a hot day with no way to breathe, is going to subject the battery to the worst of the detrimental causes of death; Heat. Having panels that expand and contract to allow the phone to breathe is preferred. Sealing these phones in such a manner as the HTC One, frankly scares me. No one can say they haven't had a problem in this area because it has just been launched and hasn't yet been subjected to the ambient temperatures of summer.
And the attitude of "These phones just get replaced" is short-sighted. Who pays for all this in the end? And how long can the insurance companies absorb it before raising financial claims again? We as consumer end up flipping the bill.
My huge frustration comes from people that don't seem to seek compromise. They allow their emotions to just accept whatever is placed in front them without thinking of "what if?" We can't escape everything that is out of our control but we sure as hell can fight to keep certain things in our control before it becomes uncontrollable.
82. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 3427; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
If you have EVER owned a phone in the last 10+ years then you have experienced a swollen battery. I have had this happen to me. As I stated before, when something is mass produced a lemon will slip by. That should be understood.
I personally own a sealed unibody phone like the HTC One. My HTC Droid DNA has performed VERY well in the HEAT. Last week I went to the zoo with my family. It was hot out there BUT my phone worked beautifully. Remember all phones get hot, some phones don't get as hot as others.
I am pretty sure HTC has planned & designed around heat issues. You shouldn't be scared of sealed phones, I am telling you that they work incredibly well.
It's not an attitude but just how it is when it comes to phone replacement. We pay for it, it's called insurance. It is another company not the carrier. You can opt for insurance or not. It's just like life, car, property or whatever insurance. So your comment "Who pays for all this in the end?" is really up to you. Do you opt for insurance or do you not. No one is forcing that on you.
We live in a disposable society & when a phone is turned in because of an insurance claim it is refurbished & used again.
83. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 3427; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Didn't a Samsung Galaxy S III explode or burn up? That phone has a removable cover, so it can happen to any phone not just a unibody designed phone.
2. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5152; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
The One is 2013's Little Engine that Could. With all that was stacked against it (production delays, Sammy outspending it in marketing, staff departures, etc.), it still manages to post credible sales numbers. Props to HTC.
12. wendygarett (unregistered)
Are you waiting Verizon One?
30. roldefol (Posts: 2855; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
Right there with you. Either the Verizon One, or the Moto X, whichever has the best combination of call quality and battery life.
23. jdoee100 (Posts: 261; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)
It's too early to call the One a success. Last year, one x and s had a similar success, only to fall and fail after June. So really, June and July period is going to decide whether htc one is a success or failure.
3. DANTExphone888 (Posts: 91; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
Can't buy it unless it comes to USCC.
4. ajac09 (Posts: 1167; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
the little engine that could but I dont think I will ever buy one. Played with one yet again at the AT&T store the other day and just dont like it
17. amats69 (Posts: 791; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)
oh as if you will buy this device...i know and i read every comment you post here on PA at HTC Ones article...and i dont read any posstive comment from you about HTC One..
33. Slammer (Posts: 716; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
I won't post a negative comment against the HTC One because I always bought and supported HTC. I owned them when others thought it was lame. Undoubtedly, this phone is a nice change. Unfortunately, as hard as it was to do, I moved to Samsung because it retained a removeable battery and the HTC One did not. For many, the convenience of replacing our own battery is preferred.
I simply can't stress the importance of not over estimating battery life vs battery longevity. How much are people willing to spend on fixed battery replacements when they fail?
Many engineers across all blog websites, have made reference that the battery is the weakest link in all the phones regardless of price, aesthetics, operation and elegance. This means it doesn't matter what anybody thinks of any phone. They are all limited by what powers it. At least if mine fails in the middle of nowhere(as I have had happen several times over the years), at least I can swap it and move on at minimal cost..
5. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2384; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)
And its not even on the nations largest carrier. Jus think if it was from the start, Sammy and apple would have really been in for it!
13. g2a5b0e (Posts: 1793; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
Not true. The S4 & the iPhone are outselling the One on AT&T, Sprint, & T-Mobile. If the One had already been released on Verizon, clearly, the same would be the case. Dropping on the nation's largest carrier will still leave the phone in third place overall, which, truth be told, is a great place to be.
22. Jason2k13 (Posts: 464; Member since: 28 Mar 2013)
ummm seeing its still in 3rd place on 3 carriers, isn't it obvious that it will still be in 3rd place for Verizon?
24. g2a5b0e (Posts: 1793; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
Thank you. Some things just aren't as obvious as they should be to fanboys like Xperia-Knight. But like I said though, being in third place across all 4 major carriers is a damn good place for HTC to be. They should be happy about it. It can only mean good things for the future.
6. rawbow (Posts: 394; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)
Go HTC!! I broke into Android with the 2010 Smartphone of the year HTC Desire
HTC One is the best Android phone yet
7. Jonathan41 (Posts: 526; Member since: 22 Mar 2012)
That doesn't sound like "utter free-fall" to me. Keep it up HTC.
10. jdoee100 (Posts: 261; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)
Finally!! Phonearena has stopped using the 5 million figure nonsense.
Anyways, good job HTC. Hopefully, they can keep it up and continue to sell at least 1.2 mil per month.
14. terabyteRouser (Posts: 396; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
I hate Verzion for this. I swear I would've left Verizon a long time ago if it weren't for my unlimited data.
21. Whateverman (Posts: 3150; Member since: 17 May 2009)
I just couldn't take em' any more. Their arrogant, cheap, stingy with service, lacking in phone selection, horrible phone support, and customer service is on a sharp decline. Not blaming the reps, just their bosses. These guys are the absolute worst when it comes to give their customers what they want. The coverage may be the the best in the US, but the expense along with the loss of perks made it impossible for me to stay. If T-Mobile works in you area, I would check them out. I haven't regretted it one bit!
15. amats69 (Posts: 791; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)
wow! HTC ONE deserves it! and im loving mine now :)
25. General-Levy- (banned) (Posts: 66; Member since: 18 Jun 2013)
36. wizzardtech (Posts: 59; Member since: 12 Mar 2012)
It will be a big impact on HTC once Verizon launched the One. They have the best Infrastructure
and Customer service. They did well on the Dna, im pretty sure they will do it again this time with even better HTC One. HTC.. all the way
38. roldefol (Posts: 2855; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
When Verizon wants a phone to succeed, it will succeed for them. They're promoting the hell out of the Lumia 928, and guess what? It's currently their #3 selling phone. So if they advertize the One, put big posters up in their stores... it will be a big seller too.
51. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5470; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
until i see what Motorola is packing i'm gunning for the HTC One on Verizon so in the meantime i'm trying to acquire an S4 to be my "straight-trader" for when the One comes out. so if you're interested in trading your Verizon S4 for a Droid DNA w/ 4 cases, a pair of barely used Beats by Dre Mixrs & a $10 Google Play Gift Card you should hmu...
Phone Arena, where's that classifieds section?
59. Cha7520 (Posts: 195; Member since: 31 Oct 2010)
I'm not surprised! I bought my two months ago...Its the BEST phone ever!!
72. roscuthiii (Posts: 1658; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)
My gf hates them I'm a phone geek, but even her eyes started twinkling when she saw the One while I was out geeking it up. When this drops on Big Red I have a feeling this is expected to be pre-ordered for her already.
75. Android4u (Posts: 456; Member since: 16 Aug 2012)
Going to pick my ONE up this Friday ...cant wait !