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HTC One X specs review

0. phoneArena 29 Feb 2012, 06:34 posted on

Starting April 5, we will be able to buy HTC's best Android phone so far, the One X. Let's dig a bit deeper to find out what we will be spending our pretty penny on, compared to all the other enticing options that landed on the MWC showfloor these days...

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posted on 29 Feb 2012, 11:28

30. biophone (Posts: 1985; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)

His post wasn't wrong it was correct. You guys just refuse to admit that.

-Its disappointing because its dual core
-Disappointing Gpu
-It does not have the performance of an A15 its less then that.
- The international version has a better processor.
- Its killed by Hauwei's processor as well.
- I rest my case.

posted on 29 Feb 2012, 11:36 1

31. biophone (Posts: 1985; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)

down with Krait version1

guys, just a hair after they launch this phone, they are relaunching Krait with the 3xx series GPUs which bring a 2-4x performance boost from this version of Krait

You guys keep wanting to say Krait is an "A15", when its not. Its still more comparable to an A9 right now. Its about 30% better than the basic A9 specs but its not up to A15 snuff. Its about on the same level as the A9 exynos 4210 (galaxy S2) in power/GPU/ proposed battery usage.
Once it has the Adreno 3xx GPUs in it, then it will be more comparable to an A15. Just like I keep saying.. over n over. This first chip is a place holder to "be one of the first". The good S4 chips wont be here till later this year.

Remixfa on if its an a15 equivalent. Witch it really isn't closer to an a9 if you ask me in-between the two in reality.

there are some things the krait generation1 will be better than a T3 at, but for most things, the T3 is still the better chip. period.

Remixfa on the two processors
What I have been saying the T3 is better

posted on 02 Mar 2012, 04:03

65. lilmoe (Posts: 7; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)

you're seriously in denial.... period.

posted on 29 Feb 2012, 17:40 2

42. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

your welcome :)

posted on 29 Feb 2012, 13:00 1

34. AppleHateBoy (unregistered)

Stop calling it Crapdragon. Are you jealous because these chips are so efficient as compared to others?

posted on 29 Feb 2012, 17:43 2

43. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

as compared to what exactly? its a crapdragon. the S2 and S3 were horrible chips. The S4 only looks OK when compared to last year's line up, not to this year's line up. I dont see any Exynos 4212 dual cores, 4xxx or 5xxx quadcores, the T4, or the Omap5 in those benchmarks.. which are all 2012 chips.

Also, the test was done on a blank reference device. More than likely those scores will go down when they are loaded with all the overlays and bloat that a real phone gets.

The S4 is the first of the "2012 lineup", and when you look at the full line up of 2012 chips, its the weakest one. Its a stop gap with a crap GPU on it which wont get a "2012 strength" GPU until christmas at best when it gets retrofitted with the Adreno 320GPU

posted on 29 Feb 2012, 17:49

44. biophone (Posts: 1985; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)

This. I didn't know about the blank reference device but I expected something like this was going down.

posted on 29 Feb 2012, 18:23

46. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1347; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)

The argument isn't over it's comparison to the Tegra 4 chipset or the new Exynos. That would be a stupid argument to pose because the new Tegra 4 chip, which I have to add nVidia is trying to push out quickly because they realized the A9 was outdated for 2012, is based on A15 architecture which will of course be better. The argument was about how the S4 compares to the Tegra 3, which as you can see it does compare quite well to the Tegra 3. We have already posted numerous sources doing numerous testing that have found the S4 chip to be both better in real-world testing as well as in benchmarks to the Tegra 3 chipset. This is becasue there are no applications or even Android 4.0 itself that uses all 4 cores or anymore than 2 cores. So, because almost all applications use at most 2 cores, the S4 chip is better. Now I'm the one done arguing this one.

posted on 29 Feb 2012, 18:46 1

47. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1347; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)

Forgot to put that the GPU of the nVidia is better though. And if you were to find testing of an application that uses more than 2 cores, then it would obviously be to the Tegra 3's advantage. Again, my argument was that the S4 is comparable to the Tegra 3. You may find some tests that show the Tegra 3 having an advantage but it is not by much. I mean we could be sitting here arguing over a minute difference and that isn't my goal. My goal is just to prove that the S4 chip wasn't a bad alternative to the Tegra 3 chip. This is NOT the same thing, in my opinion, as putting an S3 chipset in place of an Exynos (although contrary to what I have just said, I have seen several reviews of people saying in real world testing they couldn't find much difference). And I have noted before that if you want to future-proof yourself and buy a Tegra 3 handset, then that is fine with me.

posted on 29 Feb 2012, 19:56

51. biophone (Posts: 1985; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)

You just don't get it. Also just to clear things up I said it would me nice if HTC made their own but them not using qualcomm would be a good start.

posted on 01 Mar 2012, 07:15

59. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

u dont seem to understand how a program works. once its optimized for multi-core, it can use 2 ,4, 6,20 cores. they call it "dual core optimized" as a laymens term. its technically "multicore optimized" as there is no arbitrary limit to 2 cores.

so any app that is dual core optimized is automatically optimized for the T3, which means all 4 cores of the T3 will be firing.

Again, ur comparing a reference device to a commercial device. dont get your panties in a bunch until we compare real product to real product.

posted on 01 Mar 2012, 16:10

63. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1347; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)

Yeah, and you aren't taking into account that while all four cores may be used in ICS itself (not the applications yet) it doesn't mean it's automatically better. The S4 chip is more efficient in how it processes items than the Tegra 3 processor. You may have a car that can go 200 mph, but it doesn't help if there's a 75 mph speed limit. That is basically what is wrong with the Tegra 3 chipset. The A9 cortex is not as efficient with memory as well as with its processing as the A15. Therefore, the added cores of the Tegra 3 allows it to be on par (or even slightly better) with a dual-core A15 processor.

posted on 29 Feb 2012, 18:50

48. KParks23 (Posts: 639; Member since: 13 Oct 2010)

Dr. Phil I guess some people just don't get it.. we are comparing the s4 to the t3 not to the other chips there wrong so now they start talking about the ti and sammy chips lol.. we have already proved bio is a idiot rambling on about HTC Making there own chipsets Haha.. and this remixfa is prolly some low level sales rep and works along ppl recommending app killers and stuff lol.

posted on 29 Feb 2012, 20:24 1

52. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1347; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)

I know I am trying to stop but it does make me somewhat angry that there is someone out there putting down a chipset without even really knowing about it. And then, no matter how many sources you put out there saying that it's a very good chipset and is a good replacement to the Tegra 3, it's like they still say "Crapdragon" or that it will suck. I think I am done arguing this one, but watch him troll future posts making more bogus claims about who knows what else. If the GSIII comes out with a 2000 mAh battery, he'll probably say it sucks in comparison to Motorola's 3300 mAh battery even if you prove it is more efficient than the Motorola.

posted on 29 Feb 2012, 17:37 1

41. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1347; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)

I have to respond when you are calling me out now. Nowhere did I say I was a Snapdragon fanboy. If you were to call me any kind of fanboy it would be for the Exynos processor. I was just trying to make you stop making such bogus claims with nothing to back it up. There are people out there that do like the S4 chip and I think they would be offended to see you make these claims based on nothing. You can say you don't like Snapdragon because of its name or who makes it, that's fine with me. My point again is: stop going on here bashing a processor you have so little knowledge about and claiming another one is better without any backup to your claims. If you had presented evidence to the contrary then I would have been fine. But you don't.

posted on 29 Feb 2012, 17:49

45. biophone (Posts: 1985; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)

Look at remixfa's post up top.

posted on 01 Mar 2012, 07:19

60. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

there is no "evidence". there is a single test by anandtech with an optimized reference device vs commercial devices. Those scores will change (up or down) when its released into the real world.
And again, those scores are all compared to 2011 chips, not 2012 chips. Lets see how u keep on chanting the glory of crapdragon once the 2012 chips arrive.. exynos 4xxx/5xxx, omap5 and T4.

The T3 just like the crapdragon S4 with adreno 225 is a stopgap chip to try to be "first to market". And thus, both have flaws and neither will be in the market very long after the real chips come out. (T4, S4 w/ adreno 320, Exynos 4412 dual, 4xxx quad, 5xxx quad, Omap5)

posted on 01 Mar 2012, 09:44

61. KParks23 (Posts: 639; Member since: 13 Oct 2010)

Again we are only comparing the s4 to the t3 so now ur stating u don't even know how they compare to each other all we want is bio to stop spamming about the t3 blowing the s4 away when there have not been any test at all and what we have seen shows there pretty comparable

posted on 01 Mar 2012, 16:04

62. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1347; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)


THIS WAS ABOUT COMPARING THE TEGRA 3 CHIPSET TO THE S4 IT WAS NOT ABOUT COMPARING IT TO THE TEGRA 4. Once again, this whole argument arose because biophone wrongly said that it was stupid for the AT&T version to have the S4 in place of the Tegra 3. PLEASE NOTE THAT I SAID TEGRA 3 NOT TEGRA 4. Also, here is my quote from my PREVIOUS statement on page 2:

"The argument isn't over it's comparison to the Tegra 4 chipset or the new Exynos. That would be a stupid argument to pose because the new Tegra 4 chip, which I have to add nVidia is trying to push out quickly because they realized the A9 was outdated for 2012, is based on A15 architecture which will of course be better. The argument was about how the S4 compares to the Tegra 3."

You both need to go back to school and learn how to read because this is seriously annoying. And you just said in your own comment what we have been saying all along: the Tegra 3 chipset is just as flawed as the S4 chipset and they are both comparable.

So thank you for being a numbskull and basically arguing against yourself. That is what you are doing now, because I would like for you to show me where I said I was saying that the S4 was better than the Tegra 4, the new Exynos, or the TI OMAP 5 series. I am seriously waiting for that quote in which I said that.

posted on 02 Mar 2012, 07:00

66. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

you completely missed the point of what i was saying. obviously I'm not the only one that needs to go back to school. OMG.. lol.

My point was that you guys are throwing up some sort of "victory" flag because you are comparing a 2012 chipset to 2011 chips. yaaaaaaay. When the 2012 chips come out, the S4 with A225 and T3 are not even going to be on the radar.

Saying that the T3 and the S4 chips are stopgaps does not contradict my arguement one way or the other. I am quite aware of what the arguement is about. Both chips ARE stopgap chips.

Also, why was Bio wrong for wanting ATT to have the T3 over the S4? Is he not entitled to his opinion? If he doesnt get LTE in his area, but plays a lot of games, the T3 chip is the clear leader of the 2 chips in performance. For many of the tests they are near even (even though the T3 is pushing nearly double the pixels and still manages to keep up and edge out the S4), but when it comes to GPU, the T3 has it in spades where the S4 sucks garbage.

BTW, Anandtech got ahold of the 1x-T3 and the 1s-S4 and did some benchmarks on them. Amazingly they do not match the reference device benchmarks you guys are touting.. its like.. i was right.. again.

"Keep that difference in mind as the One X (T3) does have more (around 77%) pixels than the One S (S4)."

posted on 02 Mar 2012, 17:45

67. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1347; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)

What victory flag? Where did I say my goal was to claim victory for the S4? Please point to where I said I was trying to say the S4 was better than the Tegra 3. I said they were COMPARABLE. I do think you need to go back to school and perhaps learn how to read and understand what we were saying. I am sure if you asked KPark he would say that was his goal of this too. It wasn't about claiming victory for the S4 chipset at all. I even just said I like Exynos over both of them so what does that say? You are coming on here without knowing what we were arguing about to begin with. Again, we were arguing that the replacement of the S4 chip to the Tegra 3 WAS NOT a bad replacement as biophone is making it out to be. Can you please understand what I am saying now?

And this WAS NOT about biophone saying he preferred the Tegra 3 over the S4. IT WAS NOT ABOUT THAT. Please just go back to a previous article, I believe it was when they first announced it and look at what biophone was writing. And look at my OWN comments. I even just said on the previous page that my goal was to stop him from blasting the S4 chipset as a bad processor in comparison to the Tegra 3 when you and I both know they are both not great in terms of what's coming out later on this year and that they are both COMPARABLE to each other in performance. He was trying to repeatedly claim the Tegra 3 chipset was like this godly processor in comparison to everything else which is WRONG.


I swear this is seriously making me angry and I am not trying to blame you because I think you just came on here in the middle of it, but I am seriously telling you right now to please go back and look at my comments and look at where I was coming from. I was trying to stop him from completely blasting a chipset as saying the Tegra 3 is miles above the S4 when myself and others have said they are comparable in performance other than GPU.

Just please take the time and go back and seriously look at what biophone has said in previous articles and I think you too would be mad that he just completely blasted a chipset without even knowing about it. I am not saying you can't prefer one chipset over another. I just said I prefer the Exynos chipset over everything else, but I am trying to look out for those people who perhaps are Qualcomm supporters that don't like when their chipset is being bad-mouthed without any clear evidence.

posted on 29 Feb 2012, 08:51 1

17. jaytai0106 (Posts: 1888; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)

As much as I would like to see Quad core in the At&t version, I still think I will be happy with the performance of HTC One XL. I am still currently using the first Dual core "Atrix" and having no problem with it. It's not the fastest phone out there but it can keep out my usage. It is perfectly okay with me to wait about two more second for a page to load. But I do worry about the battery life on this phone. Let's see what can this phone can do when it comes out :)

posted on 29 Feb 2012, 09:06 6

19. Stinger2U (Posts: 16; Member since: 17 Feb 2012)

God, please forgive me for all those times I called iPhone users stubborn and stupid. Forgive me for calling them ifanboys and acussing them of blind worship of a brand, because it seems (based on a lot of youtube and other comments) that Samsung fanboys have reached their level of worship...maybe even worse. For I have witnessed thousands, if not millions calling out for SGS3 in LG, HTC, Huawei and other threads.They want their God to appear, they feel the need to spread their faith and worship to everyone else. They have sworn an oath to wait for THE DEVICE to rule them all and they feel the constant need to write about it everywhere they can.
God, please forgive them, for they have reached, and surpassed, the iPhone fanboys.

posted on 29 Feb 2012, 09:15

20. willardcw4 (Posts: 169; Member since: 01 Oct 2011)

Good point.. just wait until the Summer when the iPhone 5 rumors start ramping up though :)

posted on 29 Feb 2012, 19:49

50. Jillsandwich (Posts: 62; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)

Yeah.. no. I admit calling for the next SGS is kind of annoying, but it's not anywhere near the level of obnoxious that iPhone users have historically done since the first iPhone. SGS hopefuls don't :

: Act like Samsung invented the wheel with the SGS

: Don't act like they're in a class above others because they own an SGS. Seriously, watch any Youtube video and you'll see the typical fagphone user saying Android users are "cheap"

: Act like they're smartphone geniuses even though they've really owned one smartphone (SGS)

: Aren't uninfirned consumers.

So, no. While the SGS3 nuthugging his annoying, it doesn't border on the cult-like mentality that Apple instills on iOS users. And for what it's worth, the SGS2 was a device that was really ahead of it's time in the Android world, at least in multi-core devices.

posted on 29 Feb 2012, 09:20

21. good2great (Posts: 1042; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)

lmao! *thumbs up*

posted on 29 Feb 2012, 09:31

22. RamyRamz69 (Posts: 390; Member since: 12 Dec 2011)

Amazing phone...still going for the Ion though ;) bigger battery, aluminum body, PS certified and expandable storage can make up the Quadcore for me

posted on 29 Feb 2012, 11:08

29. andygallo (Posts: 39; Member since: 21 Oct 2011)

"The f/2.0 lens on the HTC One X and HTC One S offers best-in-class performance, capturing 40 percent more light than the f/2.4 lenses available on other high-end phones."

I think that should be 50% more light? f2.0 allows twice the amount of light than f2.8, so f2.0 should allow 50% more than f2.4...I think?

Someone that knows more about photography than I care to chime in?

posted on 29 Feb 2012, 12:56

33. AppleHateBoy (unregistered)

I guess they are using Logarithm or trigonometry or something else.

posted on 29 Feb 2012, 12:55

32. AppleHateBoy (unregistered)

"HTC claims that it has laminated the Gorilla Glass cover and the touch layer to eliminate reflection"

Really? When did they say this?

This should be awesome. Super AMOLED laminated the touch layer and AMOLED. Now HTC laminated all the three layers. Nice.

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