HTC One X+ coming to T-Mobile with 1.7GHz Tegra 3+ processor?
0. phoneArena 25 Jul 2012, 12:13 posted on
That mysterious HTC Era 42 handset that showed up on a leaked T-Mobile screenshot a few weeks ago is apparently the HTC One X+; and what does the plus sign indicate? How about a 1.7GHz Tegra 3 plus processor of course!...
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1. Birds (Posts: 1139; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
Is this their strategy all along? lol Well to be frank, even thought the Tegra 3 is very efficient, as well as ICS/JB, this will need a 2,500+ Milliamp battery...
43. ghostkilla1388 (Posts: 50; Member since: 11 Jun 2012)
Bigger battery in the same size foot print or smaller = awesome!
47. Jasonhunterx (Posts: 111; Member since: 20 Jul 2011)
battery size doesn't actually say how well battery will perform iphone only has 1430Mah an performs great
54. Schuler2828 (Posts: 58; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)
Yeah but it runs apps, Sense I think is the most complicated software there's is constantly running live themes and etc. Therefore you need a bigger battery take out the software and put something that takes less ram and you will have a better battery life.
2. MeoCao (unregistered)
HTC should learn from SG3 to have removable battery and memory expansion slot, and JB is a must.
3. remtothemax (Posts: 253; Member since: 02 May 2012)
okay, this is probably my biggest complaint against android
didn't htc release their "flagship" like only a few months ago?
i would be pissed if i paid two or three hundred for a flagship device
only to have the company undercut me four months later with a better device
i think it's a bigger problem because it isn't even a constant process
it feels like a one two punch kind of a deal
htc with the one x and motorola with the droid razrs relased phones and then quickly updated them
just make it awesome the first time around like the sg3, geez
4. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
by the time it gets out to t-mobile, it will probably be 9-12 mnths removed from the last HTC model.
Honestly, it does not bother me because these companies need to produce multiple models for money.
63. Schuler2828 (Posts: 58; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)
Your forgetting the Incredible 4G LTE But I agree with what your saying.
5. Galen20K (Posts: 526; Member since: 26 Dec 2008)
technically it is still basically the same Flagship phone they've already release albeit slightly upgraded, but at its heart still the same phone. having said that I'm excited about that even tho I've already bought and love my 32GB Galaxy S III Pebble blue. Always room for new tech!
48. KParks23 (Posts: 512; Member since: 13 Oct 2010)
What the he'll u guys talking about t-mobile does not have a one x they have the lower end one s..
50. D.Aceveda (Posts: 390; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)
The One S and One X are the same aside from their screens and sizes of internal memory....What the hell are YOU talking about?
53. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3481; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
Actually not true. They have the same internal memory in the U.S., but the One S not only has a smaller screen, it has a lower resolution qHD screen as opposed to the One X's 720p S-LCD screen. Another reason the One S is considered lower end than the One X is because the international version of the One X has a quad-core processor, while the One S has a dual. The international One X also has double the internal memory.
55. Schuler2828 (Posts: 58; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)
So shouldn't high end phones have a better battery?
66. Birds (Posts: 1139; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
That doesn't matter to me because the tegra 3 is 40 nanometer architecture design while the kraits are 28 nm.... CPU wise the kraits will be just as good as tegra 3 simply for the fact that the architecture is much more advanced. Tegra 3 is great and all but when you sit down and look at the chipsets specs, it seems that it was rushed out for phones and tablets (Don't get me wrong, it is still great). Not to bash Nvidia but this has been the year of the Snapdragon, easily..
68. D.Aceveda (Posts: 390; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)
Your comment was pointless. I already pointed out the only difference was the screens. We are talking about the US versions not the International versions so your comment about the quad core processor is invalid. Next.
69. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3481; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
Don't try to be dismissive because you were wrong. You can just admit it instead.
70. D.Aceveda (Posts: 390; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)
Nobody is being dismissive. Fact is you are wrong and an idiot. You made a pointless comment and brought up the international version of the One series of phones when this article is about the US versions coming to T-Mobile US. Get over it. Thanks.
71. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3481; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
I'm an idiot because you're wrong? You obviously can't make comments without resulting to petty insults. Love the maturity on this site. Grow up, guy.
73. KParks23 (Posts: 512; Member since: 13 Oct 2010)
The Aceveda guy is obviously but hurt... there is a huge difference screen size screen resolution and the type of screen even used and the processor and the battery is unknown... The morons on this Site always amaze me
74. D.Aceveda (Posts: 390; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)
You made a pointless comment. I can't really insult you any further because your stupid comments have done that for me. Next.
7. Seannyc (Posts: 59; Member since: 21 Jul 2012)
This is the reason I can't buy andriod phones anymore, they literally release a better phone every month or weeks. They need to slow down.
8. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Are you going to stop buying food because every day they update the store with food with longer shelf life compared to what you got yesterday? No? I didn't think any different..
10. Galen20K (Posts: 526; Member since: 26 Dec 2008)
Exactly! I have my Galaxy S III and I absolutely love it. Will it always be the top end smart phone on the market forever? no. Will it make my phone any less spectacular once something new and slightly better come out? absolutely not, I will still love it just the same. - )
13. remtothemax (Posts: 253; Member since: 02 May 2012)
it's not that i want it to be the top forever
its like buying a car that gets 60mpg and goes 0-60 in 6 seconds only to have them release a new version of the same car at the same price that gets 120mpg and does 0-60 in 4 seconds
15. ilia1986 (unregistered)
First of all - that new car isn't going to go to 120mpg. Maybe to 62 when it's a REALLY huge hardware improvement over the last model. Is the Note 2 going to be faster than the SGS3? Yes. Twice as fast? Definitely not.
Second of all - that happens all the time. New stuff keeps coming up. The wise man does his research and makes his bet on the product which gets him the most bang for his buck.
19. remtothemax (Posts: 253; Member since: 02 May 2012)
okay, i used exaggeration for emphasis
but that is what this is
this is not a .2ghz bump, this is a significant update that could include things other than just the processor
yes, new phones are coming out all the time
but the note and the sg3 are not competitors...
oh my gosh, samsung is copying apple. they've been leaving clues, i just had an epiphany sg3 backwards is...3gs. haha, weird i'm joking! i'm joking geez, it was just a random thought
anyhow, i would not be pissed if i bought the sg3 and the note 2 came out
it is a completely differnt phone
i would be hella pissed if they came out with the sg3+ or something because it is identical to my phone, it is just better
it is replacing my phone
this is why it is a problem
35. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Most of the time - the benefit is insignificant. And again - if you plan ahead - you know what to buy, and when.
64. Schuler2828 (Posts: 58; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)
I say this over and over, peoples contracts expire at different times so say they were gonna get the SGS3 when there contract was up oh look at that a better phone is coming out that's perfect for them.
21. remtothemax (Posts: 253; Member since: 02 May 2012)
yes, that is great
but are you telling me you wouldn't be the least bit disappointed if samsung announces the samsung galaxy IIIs next week with advanced features and capabilities?
25. ilia1986 (unregistered)
If you had the SGS3 - and DID your research - and KNEW the specs of the SGS3s and - and concluded that the SGS3 has more bang for your buck - then no.
28. remtothemax (Posts: 253; Member since: 02 May 2012)
did the owners of the one x or the droid razr have any way to know about the next two phones
or the gs2 skyrocket surplanting the gs2 in a couple months?
that is when it smarts
all technology gets obsoleted
but as a geek i like that new technology feel and this feels kind of unfair
31. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Yes. The specs of both of them were known before their launch.
You DO get robbed of that feeling that your device is the best of everything else out there after a few months - but feelings do not cost money.
33. remtothemax (Posts: 253; Member since: 02 May 2012)
wow, that reflects brilliantly on samsung's perspective of me as a customer
i haven't picked a new smartphone yet
but at least apple wines and dines you before they...
60. Schuler2828 (Posts: 58; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)
The Razr Maxx is kinda old now but is still a sick ass phone with Ice cream sandwich and the best battery on the market. If your phone does what it needs to for now then why should you be mad about a new phone?
16. remtothemax (Posts: 253; Member since: 02 May 2012)
okay, let me use your own example to argue the point
a lot of food has a shelf life of days, especially once its opened
the term of use is extremely short
i wouldn't be angry if they released new food a coulpe of days into my purchased food because i am going to have to buy more food in a day or two anyways
it is totally differnet if i buy a "flagship" device where the term of use is twenty-four months
to have them release the same phone but better as a new replacement flagship four or five months into the life cycle
leaving me with an effecitvely discounted phone for over a year and a half
this is exactly the problem lumia 900 owners are having if you want to deny it's a problem
23. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Not a problem.
You bought a phone for let's say - 800$ (unlocked). let's say that this phone indeed has a "term of use" for 24 months (which is BS of course since the phone can function as long as it's functional, but let's ignore this fact for now). Let's say that after 6 months a new - better phone comes in - which also costs 800$.
Now - after 6 months - your phone has the effective value of about 18/24*800 = 600$ since 6 months have passed. If you were to sell it - you'd probably sell it for 600$ - because you paid 200$ for the 6 months you've been using it. Now, if you want to buy the new 800$ phone - which also has let's say a "term of use" of 24 months - you'd have to pay 800$ - to get another 24 months.
So in total - you're paying 800 - 600 + 800 = 1000$ for 30 months of usage.
In other words - your phone started decreasing in value the moment you bought it. If new phones were released every 2 years - at the end of the 2 years - the value of your phone is effectively close to 0 according to the logic you set in your post.
Of course - this is a very rough example - and you could buy a 750$ phone which would be be worth more than a 900$ phone even after a year - and thus you have to conduct a careful market research, and always know what's coming ahead. A person who bought let's say the SGS2 when it came out for 750$ earned much more than the one who bought the Droid Bionic for the same price (for example).
29. remtothemax (Posts: 253; Member since: 02 May 2012)
i'm talkign contractually here
on contract you can't just sell it and walk away without penalties
also, i use my phones for a long period of time
my current phone turns three this year
if they are shoving a two year contract down my throat, i would expect a good six months grace period to enjoy my phone as the top of the line for the company i purchased from (if i did indeed buy it when it first came out)
i am not talking about people who buy the iphone 4s in a month
i'm talking about people who buy the iphone 5 in three
32. ilia1986 (unregistered)
I dunno how contracting in the US goes. Here in Israel - no matter where you buy your phone - it's unlocked - and you can sell it on day 1.
If this is an issue in the US system - you wouldn't expect all the manufacturers just band together and say "Hey hold on a bit - we can't release that phone yet because of the stupid absurd US contracting system. Let's wait 24 months because little Johny just signed a contract with some US carrier and he would be very disappointed if we ship the phone now.", now, would you?
34. remtothemax (Posts: 253; Member since: 02 May 2012)
in the us you can get most high end smartphones between two and three hundred dollars if you buy them on a contract
and we tend to get some of them earlier, which is why you have the mistaken notion that people would know about the upcoming phones, especially with motorola
i am not asking them to wait two years for me
i'm just saying give me six months
don't undercut me three months into my contract with the latest and greatest when there is no reason to
36. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Well as far as I know - you guys actually get top end phones last. Except for the diephone, that is. HTC one X, SGS3, SGS2, SG Note all came to Europe first - and then to you. And if the Europeans know how to do their research - so should you.
As for contracts - if you are bound to a contract and can't resell your phone - well - that's the price you pay for having top phones for 200 - 300$. Just so you know - here top phones cost about 1,000$!
37. remtothemax (Posts: 253; Member since: 02 May 2012)
but that adds to my point
you guys have had the htc one x for a while now
we just got it
and now they are releasing a new update to it
this is where the market sucks and where it should change to make it more consumer friendly
nokia, apple, and blackberry all have very clear, very understandable line ups that do what they want them to
i am refering to windows 8 and bb10 not the past stuff
there will be three or four lumia devices, it will be easy to know what you are getting into, you can make an educated choice without having to worry about them releasing a slightly beefed up model two months after you buy
and the expereince won't suffer for it, because they can focus on a few premium products
rather than having to deal with hundreds of slightly different phones that all need to be coded differently because they each have a slightly different advertiseable feature
38. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Yes, you just got the HTC one X. But we might soon get the HTC one X2 or whatever it's called - so you must choose - buy the One X now, or wait for a bit until the X2 comes along. That depends on how much you need you wait, and how advanced the X2 is compared to the X. It's called market research.
Now, the advantage of Android over all the diephones, Nokias, blackberries whatever, is that even a 2 year old phone - let's say - the Nexus S - get's the latest software version - Android 4.1 in this case - today. Heck, even a 3 year old phone will be capable of running 4.1 via a custom Rom.
44. downphoenix (Posts: 2818; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)
Yea, but the Lumia was already behind the curve when it first came out. Obsolete out the door.
51. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Then don't buy it. It's that simple.
61. Schuler2828 (Posts: 58; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)
The Lumia 900 wasn't a high end phone though?
46. SonyFTW2020 (Posts: 311; Member since: 03 May 2012)
aaa no, but it doesnt mean i will buy the new food on the shelf either.... I would probably walk in the store and say "wow" look at the new stuff, but once i seen the "new" price i would then continue to buy what i have always been buying...seannyc is right in a way and the only way to keep up with this flow would to be either satisfied with what you have, or you can sell what you have to get what you want....your choice...the thing is although these new phones are getting stronger and quicker, the apps and requirements have been LONG met with the current chipsets they have in them now.....There really isnt any thing you could throw at these phones that it wouldnt be able to handle so upgrading is almost pointless unless you're just a tech freak and cant ignore the hype of new technology trying to make you feel like you are missing out on something...
52. ilia1986 (unregistered)
I guarantee you that in 6 - 12 months - there will be so many graphically - and CPU - intensive apps - that your 1Ghz 512MB Ram smartphone won't be able to handle it. Look at PCs during the mid 2000's. Let's say 2006 - the dawn of the dual core processors. Everything except high end games could be run by a single core 2Ghz machine with 512MB of Ram. Look at 2012 - today - that machine would now struggle to run anything more than a web browser. And why? Because there was an explosion in multi-core CPUs, and everyone started taking advantage of it.
11. MistB (Posts: 581; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
Actually, 2012 has been quite a quiet year for flagship phones and at least at lot more sensible since 2011. Now we all know Samsung has 2 flagships a year, the Note and the Galaxy S Series, besides the note 2 what other high end device has Samsung actually announced since May 3rd excluding tablets, I'm struggling. no doubt all of their advertising and sponsorships have solely been focused on the S3 and S3 alone, no other phone yet from Samsung which has bettered it. But it's a once a year phone like Apple, only difference is that Samsung has the Note series which is also once a year.
HTC has the one series, this is just a different version of the One X but effectively the same phone. I ask you, what other High end quad core phone has HTC announced since showing this at MWC, what other week or month did they OFFICIALLY announce a 1.6 ghz superphone that has rendered their one x obsolete since February, exactly, it's been 6 months and no sign of this talk about phones getting released every week, it's more like every six to eight months for high end and one-two months for budget handsets . Remember, a better version may be for international markets but it is without a doubt, still the same phone. What will break this steady release however is the introduction of 5 nexus phones which will complicate things.
41. JC557 (Posts: 1247; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)
So basically since it's inconvenient for you, people who have different upgrade schedules must make do with less choice?
20. flamemee (Posts: 3; Member since: 23 Jul 2012)
You're looking at this from your own selfish point-of-view. People are rolling off their contracts all the time that are not in the same schedule as you. When that happens, most people would want to buy an up-to-date device right away. They don't want to have to make a choice whether to buy a 6-month old device or wait another 6-months for the next model. Get it?
30. remtothemax (Posts: 253; Member since: 02 May 2012)
see, but it works fine with iphone
there is not need to make a new phone with a half better processor and more ram and a higher quality screen every few months
the iphone does it once a year and they control the content market essentially
so even with the 1.5ghz quad cores and 2 gbs of ram
infinity blade, shadow gun, rage, etc. were all designed to work on an 800mhz dual core with .5gb of ram
and they work fine quite frankly
so what is the point of taking away the new phone feeling so quickly because everyone needs an up-to-date device right away to play the content that is definately not advancing as fast as processor speeds and ram are increasing
45. MeoCao (unregistered)
More choice for consumer is never a bad thing. But HTC should care about those who bought their devices with timely updates.
56. Schuler2828 (Posts: 58; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)
What if your upgrade was in 2 months wouldn't you want to get the best phone for that time frame not a phone that was released in April?
6. torr310 (Posts: 595; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)
larger battery capacity & 2GB RAM would be great
14. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3481; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
I'm with you on that. With Samsung already futureproofing their flagship phones with 2GB of RAM, there's no reason HTC shouldn't do the same. I would also like to see all that's the been mentioned above--a bigger battery capacity (at least 2,000 mAH), removable battery, & expandable storage. I don't truly expect them to include all those features, but they would be truly knocking it out the park if they did. In any event, this is looking like the phone I'll be upgrading to when I'm due in 3 months.
9. eman99 (Posts: 287; Member since: 03 Aug 2010)
yes by all mean by the time it comes out (like forever)