HTC M7 camera is rumored to use Ultrapixels
0. phoneArena 04 Feb 2013, 11:13 posted on
There is speculation that the upcoming HTC M7, the phone worthy of having its name chanted by HTC CEO Peter Chou, will be using the name Ultrapixels instead of megapixels when referring to the camera on the device; the term refers to multiple layers of pixels on a sensor which should lead to sharper, crisper pictures with better color reproduction than seen with the usual smartphone camera...
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1. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)
How this different from exmor sensor or any camera?
11. NickPeters (Posts: 74; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
haha! Nice one! +1
Who doesn't? Ultra, Mega, Giga, Super, Pro, Premium, etc.
Those words are just perfectly made for marketing!
2. mpoznic (Posts: 5; Member since: 03 Feb 2013)
Good for Htc My favorite cellphone maker.
So long Xperia z and eXmor Rs sensor.. :D
3. MrKoles (Posts: 368; Member since: 20 Jan 2013)
people, HTC M7 rocks! It´s going to be a fantastic device!
4. _Bone_ (Posts: 2154; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
I dunno, but I like these Exmor RS pictures, Ultrapixels have some competition.
13. abhishek48 (Posts: 164; Member since: 19 Feb 2012)
Dude, what you posted are day light sample, All advanced smart phone take grt pictures in Day light, what matter is low light condition.
My DNA takes pics of same quality in day light.. show the low light indoor samples
22. Feanor (Posts: 664; Member since: 20 Jun 2012)
Your DNA is made out of Unicorn glass, with processor by Tyrell Corporation, with a minaturized Nikon D4 DSLR rear camera and runs Android 26.0.2 Zabaione with Sense 30.
Give us a break, bro...
27. Feanor (Posts: 664; Member since: 20 Jun 2012)
:-)) At least you took my comment with humour. I mean, I'm sure that the DNA is a stunning piece of tech and to be honest one of the very few HTCs that I find decent looks-wise but you must come to terms with the fact that at least on paper the Xperia Z has a few tricks up its sleeve.
33. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
Performance wise the Xperia z and the HTC M7 will be very close, I will be choosing the Xperia Z unless HTC offers soemething amazing that is a must have over the xperia z.
5. boosook (Posts: 1418; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
To me it looks like they will use a Foveon sensor. This sensor has some advantages and some disadvantages compared to the traditional Bayer sensor, where the three pixels are one next to each other and must be interpolated. Many people love it because in bright light it can deliver very sharp images, altough the final resolution is 1/3 because pixels are on three layers. I.e. the 12 mp are on three layers so the resultin image will be a 4mp image. But each of these pixels will be "sharper".
So to do a fair comparison of which is better you have to take an 8/12 mp image, downsize it to 4mp size and see the difference between the two. And, typically, the Foveon sensor output is better. At least, it was when it came out.
If you need more than 4mp resolution, the story is different... you would be forced to *upsample* the image and you would lose the advantage fast.
Also, it seems that this kind of sensor does not perform very well in low light, but now things might have changed, and in any case even the other small sensors used in phones do not perform well in low light.
6. threeline (Posts: 267; Member since: 11 Sep 2011)
If the M7 is not a 5 incher, I wont even bother and neither should HTC. Why buy this 4.7" when you could get the Nexus 4 that's also 4.7" and will receive updates much faster.
31. Commentator (Posts: 3655; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
Because the Nexus 4 has a pathetic, last gen, worthless 720p display, that's why.
32. threeline (Posts: 267; Member since: 11 Sep 2011)
The Nexus 4 will still be updated faster.
35. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
And it will still have a 720p display with a pathetic excuse for a rear camera compared to the 2013 flagship cameras. That is why there will be a Nexus 5 in 2013.
34. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
Because obviously a 720p phone screen is worthless... I have compared an HTC one x to a DNA the only big difference was the DNA looked a little sharper.
36. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
No, but the camera on the Nexus 4 is worthless. Lipstick on a pig is still a pig. Play as many games as you want with post-processing. The problem is with the sensor.
7. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
I'm waiting for official HTC M7 specifications, I want to compare it with Sony Xperia Z, that should be interesting. :)
12. Feanor (Posts: 664; Member since: 20 Jun 2012)
It's funny how suddenly a Sony phone has become the reference point of everything, even before any full reviews have been published. One year ago this would be unthinkable. So many people wait to compare the new HTC and Samsung flagships with the Xperia Z. Last year it was pretty much a duel between HTC and Sammy only.
14. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
I say that because at the moment Sony Xperia Z is the best officially presented Android smartphone (my opinion) and that's why I want to compare Sony Xperia Z configurations and other features with other upcoming smartphones in this case and HTC M7. :)
16. abhishek48 (Posts: 164; Member since: 19 Feb 2012)
Xperia z has specs same as DROID DNA\Butterfly, if HTC M7 comes with tegra 4, then there would be no completition
18. emadshiny (Posts: 1144; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)
you're completely wrong. the best is Z right now. you must wait for M7 and see whether it can defeat it because DNA (Butterfly) are losers in comparison to Z.
19. Feanor (Posts: 664; Member since: 20 Jun 2012)
You keep repeating this and it's not entirely true. Superior camera, premium, thin build and waterproof construction of the Z must count for something. A smartphone is not only processor and screen specs...
21. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5710; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
the Cameras on both of these phones are good enough to where it all comes down to a subjective decision. same with the build quality and design, it's all subjective. i wouldn't say the DNA is better than the Z or the Z is better than the DNA but i will say that it's looking pretty likely that the M7 will beat the Z.
23. emadshiny (Posts: 1144; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)
if they use S4 prime it will be a great win for M7 but i think tegra 4 wont do any good. and of course we must wait. none of these phones are released yet. the real hands on will clarify everything.
26. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5710; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
why will it not do good if it uses a T4? the T4 is comparable with the best of them. o:
28. emadshiny (Posts: 1144; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)
i think S4 prime can be a better choice. if you compare S4 pro with T3 you'll understand what i mean.
30. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5710; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
no, not really. xD
it's an entirely different comparison. the T3 is much older than the S4 with just quad A9 cores, a companion A7 core & an underwhelming GPU while the S4 Pro has quad Krait cores & Adreno's impressive 320 GPU. the Tegra 4 has quad A15 cores with an additional low powered A15 core which are better than the S4 Pro's generation of Krait cores and it's GPU is an entirely different beast that can even be compared with the SGX554(MP4) which is better than Adreno 320. i'd say the Tegra 4 is somewhere in between the Snapdragon 600 & 800.
24. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
"Xperia z has specs same as DROID DNA\Butterfly..."
15. emadshiny (Posts: 1144; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)
this is the rule of market bro. HTC didn't do well last year and now game is getting more difficult for it. in contrast Sony did pretty well and now it has attracted everyones attention with its new flagship.
8. speckledapple (Posts: 892; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)
There they go pushing a tech that essentially does not help them create a better solid device. They should stick with making sure the basic needs are taken care of instead of trying to introduce a new way to confuse and irriate buyers.
9. emadshiny (Posts: 1144; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)
i prefer a more powerful battery and micro SD port which supports up to 64GB.
but thats a good move as well.
37. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5710; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
sounds like you could use a Droid Razr MAXX HD. 3300mAh battery that's serving me up an average of 29 hours of moderate-heavy use and 64GB of storage because of the 32GB internal and the 32GB SD Card it can be supplied with. it's gonna be hard for me to give up this thing.
17. devorama (Posts: 13; Member since: 06 Aug 2012)
Everyone keeps repeating this assertation that this foveon style sensor is somehow similar to a Pureview sensor. It is not. The oversampling the Nokia does is NOT the same as the method a foveon sensor combines three layers of sensors into a pixel. The fact that a foveon style sensor states the resolution as a combined resolution of each color layer is marketing BS. If you OUTPUT a 4.3 MP image, you should call it a 4.3 MP sensor. Traditional bayer filter sensors have a resolution higher than their output resolution too. But we don't count a 13MP sensor as a 52MP just because it takes 4 sub-pixels to make one output pixel.
20. JWS65 (Posts: 32; Member since: 22 Jan 2013)
This is interesting technology and might delivery good image quality. But its true resolution is still limited to 4.3M. It's just giving each 4.3M to each color and stacking them.
29. amiroo (Posts: 269; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
seems that htc want to be one in 2013..
s4 hasnt easy way this year cus m7 block its way.
38. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
so...another rip off by htc. this time they're stealing the idea of super...pardon, ultra pixel and PureView from Nokia.
Wannabe 8S and 8X weren't enough htc???
Knowing potato camera made by htc so far this won't be anything spectacular..not even close to 808 or 920.