HTC Edge may be one of the first quad-core smartphones
0. phoneArena 07 Nov 2011, 14:03 posted on
While we all anxiously await the arrival of the Asus Transformer Prime tablet which will reportedly pack the Tegra 3 quad-core processor, it appears as though a device from HTC known as the Edge may be one of the first smartphones to feature a quad-core of its own…
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59. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5691; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
it has nothing to do with it being better. Android is the born competitor to iOS and the iPhone so naturally Android's best will be compared to the most up to date iPhone. Apple's mistake with iOS5 and the 4S has kind of solidified Android's superiority over iOS and the iPhone for now but old habits do die hard.
63. JGuinan007 (Posts: 662; Member since: 19 May 2011)
well wait till the stuff hits the fan with IOS6
34. rizky_p (Posts: 19; Member since: 29 Oct 2011)
Please drop the red theme from recently acquired beat logo those are ugly.
37. thekai12 (Posts: 25; Member since: 07 Dec 2010)
htc needs my dsign what i made and it will sell like hotcakes crash the iphone but they have to put 3.2 mp autofocus front facing camera and pare with nikon lennses and but beats audio for the speakers on the side of the screen 11 cm screen
38. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)
I hope it comes to ATT if the Nexus doesnt comes to ATT Ill be getting the EDGE. THIS IS ONE BAD ass phone.
39. aztaxia12295 (Posts: 269; Member since: 22 Nov 2009)
im pretty sure htc and qualcomm have some partnership
i think this will use the s4 chip, this phone is no where close to release so i think 2h 2012 is reasonable?
40. dougsax (Posts: 2; Member since: 07 Nov 2011)
WHEN WE WILL START TALKING ABOUT SMOOTHNESS...
IT IS MORE THAN ABOUT TIME TO WE TALK ABOUT IT!!
back with my first touch phone, samsung pixon, chose becouse i thought it would be better than iphone ( camera,etc ) didnt like the fact to have a iphone, (terrible experience with PIXON!,) i felt shame of myself everytime i see a friend of my showing off how smooth iphone is, after while i bought a HTC HD2, great experiece, amazing phone, specially when rooted to android, but still nothing compared to the smoothness of Idevice, damn upseting.... now i have a samsung galaxy S2, definitely a worth phone to have, OLED display is great, core 2 , lighty, but after all this time , it still not as smooth as Idevice, close but NOT!, if next year Iphone 5 comes up with a 4.0 display, n it is as lighter as my galaxy s2, i will go for a Idevice, enough is enough!!!!!!,,.. I ANXIOUSLY AWAIT FOR ICE SANDWICH TOO, n might not go for a IPHONE NEXT YEAR
52. JGuinan007 (Posts: 662; Member since: 19 May 2011)
The Iphone screen won't go bigger than 3.5" it appears Steve Jobs said peoples thumbs can't handle a screen bigger than 3.5" and if you can't use a phone with your thumb what good is it?
42. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5691; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
i just realized something. this phone has capacitive buttons. the jump from Sense 3 to Sense 4 is so major that it would naturally mean it'll come in hand with ICS sooo is this all bogus?
43. rigo (Posts: 8; Member since: 13 Jan 2010)
4.5 already sounds like wayyyyyyy to biggggggg hope it does not get to b that size would still like it to look like a cell phone" not a home phone" je je
54. JGuinan007 (Posts: 662; Member since: 19 May 2011)
no way they should make it 4.7 solid screen no physical buttons on front with true HD resolution 720p at least
60. Netolic (Posts: 144; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
samsung note is a 5.3 inches.
htc should top that
64. ladyhaly (Posts: 106; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)
Hopefully, it comes with a badass camera. I've been waiting for another brilliant HTC Droid with a badass camera. A worldwide GSM phone one. Not the Amaze 4G.
66. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
If Android needs so much power to run efficient and smooth...they should rewrite it from the bottom to the top.
Battery will be a crap. What's with cooling this thing? It has probably alu unibody so it will overheat.
High end devices don't run smoothly enough?
They need quad cores?
Multi cores can probably save battery
Having more cores mean more power consumption. Period.
(the only exception is whether the chip is made in different architecture ir at smaller n. (40nm>28nm).
Properly optimized system with dual core and pretty high amount of ram (1 gig at least) would take care of it and would probably handle everything you could possibly throw at it. Look at the S II. It can play 1080p without lags. Even computers can have lags playing something like this.
The problem is software. If android is not optimized to spare just a little bit battery life that means that the whole architecture of this system is a fail. Maybe they've changed it in ICS, so that would be a huge step in right direction.
Progress is a necessity.
Quad core at this moment is a marketing. They don't know how and where utilize all this power. To run live wallpapers? please.
70. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
i love when people criticize things that they have absolutely no idea about.
This Quad core, is actually a Quint-Core (5 core).. it has a 5th low power core that runs while the 4 big boys shut down.. for mundane stuff like texting or checking your email. The more cores you have, the more power efficient it actually is, as each core draws less power than a single core chip to do the same task.
You really have no idea.. absolutely none.. about what your talking about. I've only seen you troll and say things to get a rise out of people. Shall we put you with taco and gallito?
73. dmakun (Posts: 290; Member since: 06 Jun 2011)
I don't know nada about this kind of technicalities but i'm interested to learn... I always had the impression the more the number of cores the more battery power required to run the device. i know that your analogy here speaks about the efficiency of power management, so does this mean a quad core 'machine' like this would use less battery power?
75. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
I don't care what will you do self-appointed judge dredd. It's my opinion and I have a right to that. I'm not telling anyone what should do or think. Must I be an android or ios lover to have a right to speech?
Your only business here is fighting with taco and gallito. Was it nice?
And well...you don't have idea about it either.
That's a beautiful theory. But just theory. Do dual cores are more power efficient than single core? You don't have a proof for that. You know what proof is?
We shall see who is right in next months when ICS will be finally released and available for current phones.
For now, you have only SPECULATIONS and marketing gibberlish straight from producers. Nothing else. Future shows.
76. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
You know...you're talking more about your wannabe than facts. It's not your site so relax and be more tolerant.
78. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5691; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
you're so hypocritical. your "opinion" is created purely out of speculation and your limited understanding of mobile processors. you can give speeches until your fingers are stiff and sore but it's not going to change that. instead of getting defensive you should listen to what remixfa is saying he's really quite knowledgeable in this field and if he's saying you're wrong then you're probably wrong and on top of that you're not packing any evidence to support this theory that you have yourself. i happen to know a lot about this as well and remixfa is correct. the more cores you have the more power efficient the system is. batteries drain quicker because of heat, you know this so when you have multiple cores simultaneously working to process something each of the cores takes a load off of the next and when a processor can work less individually then not as much heat is generated therefore less power consumption and then there's the added benefit of the low powered 5th core dedicated to mundane tasks or for when the phone or tablet is at stand-by.
82. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
remixfa creates gospels?
I didn't know he has a "god status" here. Please forgive me. I was a sinner. Didn't mean to discredit his knowledge.
Me, you and remixfa has nothing more than just theory because there is no quad core unit yet!
Asus will be the very first but don't expect review following week.
Then we will be able to confront our opinions.
I don't get you guys. Your ego must be huge.
I have different opinion therefore I must be stupid, have limited understanding and be enemy nr. 1.
83. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
hehe...and your opinion is 100 facts, right?
You are multitalented android user who knows everything about mobile technology.
YOU KNOW WHAT YOU READ IN INTERNET. That's it. So don't give me that crap about super duper multi cores which will change our perception and way we use our phones because you know nothing about it.
There are just a rumors and marketing so far.
You're laughing at apple fanboys because they swallow everything what they hear form Apple. And what are you doing right now?
When you get completed unit, you will be able to say something about that.
I'm sceptical but got my fingers crossed, because it's fascinating from technological point of view.
85. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5691; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
still so hypocritical...if nothing you read on the internet can be counted as fact then...why are you here? also what makes a review any more factual? it's true. the Tegra III is not on the market yet but you're really not saying anything to prove us wrong. it's two against one. what makes you so sure we're wrong anyway? what's the basis of your theory huh? i don't know about remixfa but i research the technology from multiple sources until i find consistent answers. i don't just take the word of one company.
68. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
I know this is a beast...but what is the purpose if it?
Short lane beast you wanted to say.
77. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
One more thing. Don't speak on behalf of the others, remixfa. Use singular, not plural form.
79. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5691; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
remixfa is like one of the kings of this site. people that know how smart he is gladly let him speak for them. me included but that's just because i'm too lazy to spell things out for people all the time. xD
84. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Let him be.
That doesn't mean others can't talk and express their opinions and feelings. If their opinions are opposite you have no right to discredit someone on behalf of "gods form PA".
it's public forum
86. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5691; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
don't forget what this site is for. it's for people's pursuit of phone knowledge. when there's something we see wrong it must be corrected.
87. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
And what's wrong with different opinion? If someone has a brain he will evaluate information, dig deeper and get this knowledge.
I say A you say B. Who's right? It depends on what are you looking for.
Public forum is to share your opinion with the others. It's normal that there are as many opinions as users.
From my point of view, quad cores are not necessary right now. From yours, they are vital.
Future shows who's right. I don't want to fight with anyone. That's not my purpose.
88. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5691; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
what's wrong is you didn't dig deep enough before you opened your mouth if you had you would've came to the same conclusion that remixfa and i have and we wouldn't have had to point it out. Phone Arena just posted an article about the Tegra III confirming everything we just said.
i don't think quad-cores are vital. i think as far as marketing phones are heading the way of laptops where dual-cores and quad-cores will steadily advance together by using more efficient manufacturing processes and better processor architecture. quad-core will be the high-end, dual-core will be the middle-end and single core will be the low-end. just like with Laptops minus Intel's inclusion which is soon to change.
89. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
so...i must admit with you and get to the same conclusion..otherwise I'm stupid and I don't have a right to open my mouth and express my opinions?
Go go power rangers! You are truly defenders of the TRUTH.
PA don't create a gospel.
It's a news from nvidia. I believe that it works when I see it in action. The same with 720p screens, 1080p recording (which is for now, crap), and so on so on.
I'm sceptical. It cannot in some magical way lower energy consumption, because it will turn off rest of the cores. It doesn't work that way.
Computers needs more power when they have beefier specs. The same with phones. It's pure mathematic.
You know how many times I've heard about breakthrough, fantastic technology, blabla marketing gibberlish?
Why do you defend it so much? It makes you happier? it's just a phone. Will it change somehow your life?
90. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5691; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
no it means you don't know what you're talking about.
why wouldn't it? last time i checked 720p displays look better than qHD displays and video recording in 1080p is smoother than recording in 720p so just how have these technologies led you on?
yeah it does. what more do you need to hear guy? who's word are you gonna take? you gonna get one of these SoCs and figure it out for yourself? xD Computers need more power when the cores run at higher frequencies just like phones do. my Droid 3 has better battery life than my Droid 2 and it has a qHD display and a Dual-Core processor running at 1GHz just like the Droid 2 and the OMAP3 and OMAP4 use the same 45nm building process, the battery difference is 200mAh. how could that be?
now if you're just pounding all four cores at 100% yeah it's going to zap your battery life but what's going to do that? not much of anything that you'd care to do on a phone other than some awesome games that'll take advantage of the power but i'll gladly carry around another battery to get to play games like that.
why are you so intent on believing that we're wrong? we've given you a perfectly sound explanation.
91. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
I'm not saying you're wrong. Maybe I am. I'm just saying that I need to wait and see it, see benchmarks, see how it really works to start smiling that we have QUAD CORE.
If it works, great! if not...well, not the first time in the history marketing wins.
You're happy to see this quad progress. I'm not. Not entirely. I don't see bigger point in such a fast evolution. Dual are powerful enough for now.
There is no even time to enjoy them.
You guys need rapidly progress, I don't. I'd like to have fully optimized, working, bugfree phone. Don't care how many cores it would have.
Look dude...you think that it will work inspite of there is no dual core phone. The very first device with quad core using android will be Asus Prime.
Maybe it will work, maybe not. Just wait and we will see. Don't be so hurry in judgement and yelling "quad is a new GOD!".
93. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5691; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
and that\'s perfectly alright just be more rational than trying to explain using incorrect technical terms.
92. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Theory is fantastic, but in practice is not always so pink.
94. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
So let it be. When first quad core phone arrives, we will back to our discussion)
96. rockstarlive (Posts: 307; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
Motorola working on quad core phone,
Possibly the successor of the DRoid X family, might be called Droid X4, or...
Droid Turbo 4 is another name rumored