HTC Butterfly S now official with Snapdragon 600 and massive battery
0. phoneArena 19 Jun 2013, 02:58 posted on
Right on cue, the HTC Butterfly S was presented on stage today during the company's press event in Taiwan. And as the "S" in its title suggests, that's an upgraded variant of last year's HTC Butterfly, packing a faster processor, Ultrapixel camera, and a much, much larger battery. How large, you ask? Well, HTC has managed to stuff a 3200mAh cell inside the Butterfly S. Somewhat unsurprisingly, the handset is thicker (10.6mm) and heavier (160 grams) than its predecessor due to the space taken up by the larger battery...
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1. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5633; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
oh wow, if this came to Verizon as the DNA+ i'd consider it just for that MAXX battery. o:
16. Reverence (Posts: 224; Member since: 16 Jul 2012)
whatever ..a nice htc video on this phone
23. Johnnokia (Posts: 540; Member since: 27 May 2012)
HTC is the most idiot company ever seen.
They produce 4 flagship phones at the same time and make their customers lost and regretted to buy HTC products.
They should change their marketing strategy.
29. Reverence (Posts: 224; Member since: 16 Jul 2012)
without a doubt...i mean whats the point of launching htc one if butterfly s was coming
46. techspace (Posts: 767; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
i think that the htc one was important for marketing and preventing many people from buying the galaxy s4
....aluminium body was the htc one's selling point
i have noticed that htc is trying to make two flagships every year...
samsung makes two flagships every year the galaxy s series phone and a note...
now htc has two flagships...a 4.7 inch phone and a 5 inch phone...
htc one x------> htc one
original butterfly/dna-------> this year's butterfly/dna
it doesn't make sense because neither of the two is a phablet but htc has two good phones...
i think they felt that one flagship wasn't enough especially because samsung is selling many high end phones...
now if htc make a phablet, they would have 3 flagships.
47. jaychildz (Posts: 106; Member since: 31 May 2013)
YOU TELLIN ME THEY COULDN'T MAKE THE ONE LIKE THIS!?
44. rizevnarastek (Posts: 332; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)
thay are in a seperate groups...
HTC One - for the fashionista
metal clad, slim phone that people look uppon with envy
HTC Butterfly S - for the geek
thick plastic phone with a huge battery, 5" and SD slot
HTC T-6 - ULTIMATE MOBILE DEVICE
huge screen, huge battery, SD slot, integrated stylus
69. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 888; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
This phone won't be released worldwide, the One is still the flagship, i find rather amusing that people forget Samsung made 4 Galaxy S4 variants, by that same logic Samsung backstabbed people who bought the SIII when they released the Note II as it was faster, better and with a bigger battery.
102. Taters (Posts: 3512; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Clueless HTC fanboyism at it's best. There are a few HUGE differences between your really weak analogy and reality.
One, the HTC One and this is pretty much the same size and in the same category while the Note 2 is another beast entirely. It has a wacom digitizer too boot. Of course it doesn't surprise me how unobservant you HTC fan boys are.
Two, Samsung is known for that strategy because they make everything from cameras to tvs to mp3 players etc. You know they are going to release multiple variants and they do not promise anything else. HTC however, promised that the HTC One was going to be their one and only flagship. Hence the One name. Galaxies are infinite almost while One is just one. Of course you HTC fanboys do not have the brains to analyze it properly. Why am I not surprised. LOL
109. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 888; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
Re-read my comment and maybe you will understand it this time, THIS PHONE WILL NOT BE RELEASED WORLDWIDE. Implying someone doesn't have a brain for liking HTC only shows how closed minded and shallow you are. Oh, and just by the way i just bought a One which should be arriving next week, am i brainless for buying whatever i like?
73. Commentator (Posts: 2467; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
Just like how Nokia makes 3 different flagships at the same time with practically no difference between them and gives them each arbitrary, potentially confusing names in the 900-range.
77. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4103; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
So far there's only been two, the One and the Butterfly S. We also expect the T6 phablet to launch later this year, but that is a niche device.
I wouldn't call the Butterfly S a flagship though; it's a device for those who held back on the One because of the smaller battery, smaller display, slightly slower processor, and lack of expandable storage in comparison to the GS4.
It's more of a filler device to get a broader spectrum on the market, just like Samsung does with the Galaxy S and Note series.
103. Taters (Posts: 3512; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
LOL It is entirely different. Read my post to the other HTC loser.
81. b1acktiger (Posts: 210; Member since: 19 May 2012)
Butterfly is made for Asia markets. Japan, Taiwan, China, India particularly. For now, its not going to hit europe and US.
What would you call between Sony Xperia Z and ZR ? 720p+4.6" and 1080p+5" phone ? Samsung Galaxy S4 and Note 3 ? LG Optimus G and G Pro ? Nokia 920 and 925 ? Good low light camera and better camera than 920 ?
24. rantao333 (Posts: 267; Member since: 21 May 2013)
compare to s4, i think butterfly s wins hand-down
1. 2600mah vs 3200 mah - butterfly s miles ahead
2. both have expandable memory slot - tie
3. both plastic --> some say "scratch resistant, shock absorb" - tie
4. design - butterfly s
5. touch wiz vs sense - tie
6. back speaker vs front speaker - butterfly s
7. blink feed - butterfly s
8. screen - personal preference
9. performance - tie
10. price - s4, giving that s4 16gb non-lte only sell $580 here. (drop too fast for sammy phone)
49. saffant (Posts: 228; Member since: 04 Jul 2011)
What about the UI features? TW destroys sense when it comes to those.
What about weight? Thickness?
You're considering make-belief criterias as "blink feed"... how apt a category is that.
That's like someone considering S-Beam as a category when compare S4 and HTC phones..
57. Synack (Posts: 668; Member since: 05 Jul 2011)
Are you kidding me!?
Sense 5.0 destroys Touchwiz, no lag at all.
66. cripton805 (Posts: 969; Member since: 18 Mar 2012)
If you want a phone without any future support, buy an HTC.
Design is also a personal preference.
I dont see why it matters where the speaker is and I wouldnt even consider it buying a phone as long as its audible.
Battery wise, even the GS4 with the battery it has, it lasts all day anyway. But we have the option to either stay slim or get a larger battery if we need to. So technically both have a pro and a con battery wise. Sure you have 3200mah, but they do wear out and need to be replaced. Usually after the first year depending on how you store your phone and charge it.
Im going to assume blink feed is a feature using blinking gestures... What about the GS4 features?
74. roldefol (Posts: 3104; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
"Im going to assume blink feed is a feature using blinking gestures..."
And I'm going to assume TouchWiz is a little wizard that pops up when you touch the screen. So Windows 95.
86. wrm2013 (Posts: 187; Member since: 28 Mar 2013)
Phones aren't optimized for future updates. Hence why they never perform the way they did after the update. I don't need a android os update on my HTC one that will no doubt eat my memory and lag my phone.
70. whoyton2 (banned) (Posts: 142; Member since: 19 Jun 2013)
LOL mate do some research tw is the most feature packed ui ever and is the most advanced ......sense is nothing compared to tw
75. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4103; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Because of those features Touchwiz lags like hell. That's what he meant when he said that Sense 5 had no lag at all, which is true and can't be said for the GS4 which lags all around the interface.
82. cripton805 (Posts: 969; Member since: 18 Mar 2012)
I guess you have never used touchwiz in its present form. Lags like hell? Even if it did lag, how would 1 millisecond be lag? In touchwiz you can decide how fast you want your touches to be predicted. You can make it instant or make it pause for as long as you want it to. It's default setting is a short pause. You can set it to 4x faster if you want to...
You wouldnt know about that because youre using sense right?
89. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5633; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
whether there's a remedy for the lag or not the reality is that side by side with Sense 5 on the same magnitude, with the same settings Sense 5 outperforms the current iteration of TW and besides changing the touch scales removes the animations from TW meaning that Sense 5 is on a smoothness level as TW without the fluff from animations so Sense 5 would have more visual eye candy over TW and the animations are pretty nice, i know because i'm using Sense 5 right now.
91. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4103; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
I'm using a GS3 right now, and it's very smooth. But, on the GS4, it does lag frequently. Unlocking it results in lag, switching between tasks lags sometimes, loading up the gallery lags often, etc. I've used the GS4, it lags; it's not Touchwiz in general, I should have specified that it was Touchwiz on the GS4 that lags, not the GS3.
93. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5633; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
yeah, i never would've thought that TW on the S4 was going to be laggy if my experience with SIII's has been any indication. performance is something i didn't think i'd have to complain about from Samsung. o:
97. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4103; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Neither did I, but apparently they did such a terrible job optimizing the software not even a Snapdragon 600 @ 1.9 GHz and 2 GB of DDR3 memory couldn't help it. Meanwhile, the One and Optimus G Pro with a 1.7 GHz S600 and DDR2 RAM run perfectly.
But there's so many features! - Samsung
100. wrm2013 (Posts: 187; Member since: 28 Mar 2013)
I just sold my gs3. It was terrible. Using instagram and internet my memory was at 1.4 used. It lagged at everything it did.I now have a HTC one and couldn't imagine owning a galaxy phone in it's current form.
101. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4103; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Really? I never had problems like that. The only time I have ever made my GS3 lag is when I was web browsing with 3 tabs open and switching between 2 other apps in the background, and even then it was very slight, much less than what would've happened if I did the same thing on my old GS2.
105. Taters (Posts: 3512; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
It's called lying. A lot of HTC fans tend to do that.
107. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5633; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
you really like to just come out swinging don't ya? :P
78. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4103; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
That battery capacity was completely unexpected for something other than a Motorola device or a phablet.
I would hope Verizon picks this up as a DNA+ or 2. My family had a pretty bad experience with T-Mobile customer service, so we're most likely going to switch to Verizon as soon as our contracts are over, and I would love to get this phone.
92. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4103; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
One of the phones on our plan (a Galaxy S Blaze) was defective, it's been replaced 4 times so far (all the replacements are refurbished), so obviously by then it's apparent that the defects aren't by chance, there's obviously something wrong with the phone. We asked if they could allow that one line to upgrade to a new phone, but they said no. They gave us 2 options, buy a new phone at full price, or get another refurbished replacement, even though the phone has been replaced 4 times already.
Also, we had an unused 5th line on our plan, so we asked them to take off all the extra features that were on that one line like the handset protection, unlimited texting, etc. (we still wanted the line active because we're going to use it soon), but somewhere along the process they somehow pushed ALL of our contracts to end in August of 2014 instead of September of this year. I don't even know how they managed that.
94. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5633; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
wow, i can't believe you said that.
my friend on T-Mobile had a very similar problem yesterday.
he wanted to switch his line over to a prepaid line but he found out that upgrading one line on his family plan some months ago resulted in all of the line's contracts being renewed.
he was able to get them to reverse it but still, that's pretty screwed up.
95. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4103; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
We haven't got it to reverse. We spent about 2 hours on the phone with customer service and they didn't do anything, we even went to a T-Mobile store a couple weeks ago to try and settle it in person, the rep there said he couldn't do anything. So now it's either pay off the ETF for 5 lines or wait until August 2014.
2. _Bone_ (Posts: 2137; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
Wonder how the HTC One owners feel right now. They just bought their device and here is he next HTC flagship with faster performance, bigger screen, bigger battery, micro SD slot and of course all the One goodies, Boom Sound, front facing speakers, UltraPixels, and unlike the One, Android 4.2 out of the box. But what else is new? Butterfly owners felt the same with the One arrival, the One X+ owners with the Butterfly, One X owners with the One X+.
3. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5633; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
i wouldn't call this a flagship device.
6. _Bone_ (Posts: 2137; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
What would you call HTC's fastest device yet?
10. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5633; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
an upgrade to a handset belonging to one of HTC's other lines. the fact that it's clocked higher is only because it has the battery capacity to justify it.
25. wendygarett (unregistered)
Calling a fastest device a flagship is like calling gnote 2 Samsung flagship dumb dumb, it's designed for someone who crave an sd slot yet refuse to buy Samsung products... Unfortunately, like SAE says, he rather compromises for a greater unibody design...
8. TechBizJP08 (Posts: 495; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)
I think its just the same. Performance will may be different but not much. It's only over clocked. But all in all its just the same.
Unlike the Galaxy S4 flavors have almost 3 SOC variants and may be too much confusing. IMO
11. EXkurogane (Posts: 863; Member since: 07 Mar 2013)
Just 6-7 months after the butterfly came out now they intro the @ss upgrade already. Who knows maybe this year end we'll see Butterfly S2. Though this time battery is a lot bigger, with SD slot,
18. amro99 (Posts: 77; Member since: 29 Nov 2012)
Calm down dude, I'm sure not many markets will see this phone. This is particularly targeted for markets in which the original butterfly has been very successful like Japan. And it does make a lot of sense to introduce a successor to a successful product, particularly with almost same design and name!
27. tiara6918 (Posts: 1495; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)
I'm very disappointed with their strategy. I'm a fan of HTC but I hope they'd release devices yearly like Apple with their iPhone(not iPad which was released 6 months after its predecessor)
39. KParks23 (Posts: 459; Member since: 13 Oct 2010)
They have nothing to complain about in the US this phone will NEVER be on att sprint or tmobile hopefully this is the vzw device we been waiting for!
41. ihatesmartphone (unregistered)
So sad they have bought htc one X(
48. jaychildz (Posts: 106; Member since: 31 May 2013)
IM STILL GOING TO GO GET THAT One FROM BEST BUY FOR $75 TODAY
88. wrm2013 (Posts: 187; Member since: 28 Mar 2013)
I bought the HTC one because I didn't want the 5.0 gs4 and in my opinion the screen isn't on the same level. The keyboard imo is also waay better than the gs4s. People complaining about expandable memory, lol, those are the people who bought a 120g iPod. There's no reason why you need that much memory.
4. PermanentHiatus (Posts: 267; Member since: 22 Jun 2012)
If this is Verizon's beefed up version of the HTC One, I totally forgive them for the delay.
60. roldefol (Posts: 3104; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
If they really want to make up for the delay, they should sell both phones. One as the One and the Butterfly
5. _Bone_ (Posts: 2137; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
BTW this is the perfect smartphone IMO. Still the One X / SIII size with tolerable thickness - and tolerable it is considering the awesome battery it packs - thin bezels, fullHD 5" screen, those speakers... I bet repairability will be good too. Might consider getting one of these though my eyes are set on the Lumia EOS and Sony Honami.
104. Taters (Posts: 3512; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Doesn't work that way. lol. Once you up the thickness to 10.7mm it is no longer the One X/GS3 size, it becomes huge. Even the really short Lumia 920 is HHHHHHHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE because of it's thickness. This thing is going to be ridiculously big beating the Lumia 920 in all dimensions including thikness. Maybe not weight though. I still have no idea how the Lumia 920 is heavier than the Note. ROFL
7. darkskoliro (Posts: 995; Member since: 07 May 2012)
Oh wow they totally addressed the battery issue....
Now what happened why not S800 with a later release date :(
9. _Bone_ (Posts: 2137; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
Yeah that's interesting. I look forward to the SD800 cause it's perfect for downclocking. It'd match whatever SD600 can do even at 1.5GHz and would give much better battery life.
30. tiara6918 (Posts: 1495; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)
Are you gonna upgrade to the butterfly s? As a first gen butterfly owner, I am really sad to see my phone get old within just a couple of months
35. darkskoliro (Posts: 995; Member since: 07 May 2012)
same, and I wont be upgrading anytime soon. I actually didnt find the S600 that future proof, when S800 is right around the corner and smashes the 600. But yet again, I am actually glad to see a 3200mah battery, because this means that when I need to upgrade my phone, I can trust that htc will produce a phone with a large battery as well. Considering the fact that I think this phone is region specific? Its a glass half full.
36. tiara6918 (Posts: 1495; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)
I'm happy to see that they're finally stepping up with battery life and while they decided to go with 600 and not 800, I don't care very much. I even find the snapdragon s4 to be fast enough