HTC-Apple licensing deal to benefit Android manufacturer
HTC China President Ray Yam
Not all investment houses see the pact as being the major event that will turn HTC around. Britain's Barclays Plc says that unless Apple and HTC use the agreement to work on handsets together, the agreement will have no effect on the Taiwan manufacturer's current problems which include lost market share in the U.S. and tough competition in China's smartphone market.
"We believe that by being able to access Apple’s patent portfolio, HTC will be able to release part of its engineering resources that have been tied up with work-around solutions. This could potentially allow HTC to offer smartphone products better than those of its Android peers in terms of features and user experience, which would help the company pick up marketshare.-"Robert Yen, Goldman Sachs
"HTC wasted too many resources on the Apple lawsuits, which were seen as “a sword hanging over our heads. The biggest benefit to us is that we can put more energy into innovation, which is more important than anything else for a technology company."-Ray Yam, President, HTC China
source: FocusTaiwan, DroidDog via AndroidAuthority
1. rusticguy (Posts: 2826; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
Sleeping with the enemy never has helped.
3. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5620; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
It was the lesser of two evils. Now HTC is free of worrying whether it will be able to sell its toys and focus on building the best toys it can build.
At some point down the road, many (if not all) of the patents that Apple has used in its fight with HTC will be invalidated and HTC will need to decide whether to continue paying the blood money to Apple. But that is for the future. Now it needs to focus on building the best toys that it can build.
5. MeoCao (unregistered)
It's still to be seen what technologies HTC can use to compete with other Android OEMs.
I still don't see anything from the agreement will help HTC except avoiding Apple's bullying.
6. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5620; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
"I still don't see anything from the agreement will help HTC except avoiding Apple's bullying."
And that is what HTC bought with the agreement - avoiding Apple's bullying. HTC doesn't have the resources that Sammy has.
7. MeoCao (unregistered)
The article also mentions some Apple's technologies that can help HTC "picking up smartphone market share globally"
9. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5620; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
But no details have been provided. I doubt that Apple gave anything away to HTC. More like HTC bought freedom to operate without the sword of iDamocles hanging over its head.
12. MeoCao (unregistered)
From previous reports HTC can use the whole Apple's portfolio except design patents.
So HTC obviously can use pinch to zoom, rubber banding... but is there anything more substantial?
14. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5620; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
"but is there anything more substantial?"
Probably not. HTC was held hostage over arguably bullish*t patents, but they didn't have the resources to fight, so they settled.
4. MeoCao (unregistered)
26. vladd100 (Posts: 56; Member since: 12 Jul 2012)
sleeping with the enemy has always helped ,it's a 007 theory.
27. MeoCao (unregistered)
lol, very nice theory, but you have to sleep 007 way not HTC way.
007 is always above the enemy (girls or not) while HTC allows the enemy climb upon themselves.
31. Aeires (unregistered)
One minute they are making public statements of taking apple down with their LTE patents, the next they are signing a ten year agreement. Talk is cheap, HTC the cheapest.
2. tiara6918 (Posts: 1364; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)
I like the idea that htc will benefit ahead of its competitors but I really hate to see them partnering up with a rotten fruit
16. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 3337; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
Partnering is beneficial for both parties. This is the way it should be done rather than a company infringe on someone's patents.
17. rusticguy (Posts: 2826; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
Yes like M$ partnered with Novell to kill LINUX :)
19. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5620; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Unfortunately, some of the patents that are the subject of the extortion agreement are getting ruled invalid on further examination by the USPTO.
24. joey_sfb (Posts: 2782; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
I don see how it would benefit me to pay a bully. I rather stick with samsung that fight the bully. This is my choice no one has to agrees with it.
8. BadAssAbe (Posts: 434; Member since: 22 Apr 2011)
6-8 months later, HTC Designs/invents New product/idea called "Idea A"
Apple gets 10 percent share because they claimed apple invented it first
2 years later, iPhone 7.5 Has New Magical Feature called "Idea A"
10. rusticguy (Posts: 2826; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
Do you know APPLE has patented WINDMILL? They are patenting just about anything and everything irrelevant to them and a time will come when they will just be making money out of suing every other company.
So now they will sue GE/Steam turbine manufacturers etc soon (in US of A of course) ? Looks like all BRIC nations have to oppose US of A at WTO.
15. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5620; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Calm down. Just because Apple has a patent, doesn't mean they can hold everyone up for royalties. Sammy's attorneys blew their case by not mounting a prior art invalidity defense. Sammy needs to push the re-set button.
Same for Apple's windmill patent. If there is prior art, it generally tends to invalidate a patent.
18. rusticguy (Posts: 2826; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
Roche had one patent invalidated in India for a drug and it was moved to generic class under pressure from a NGO. More and more of public pressure has to come against these stupid acts because politicians /govt of the day play hand in glove with corporates world over and it's only public pressure that make things happen. People are now opposing M$ takeover of Egypt in Egypt.
22. rusticguy (Posts: 2826; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
Bribing govt of the day into buying M$ crap. Public is protesting against that. Here's the link:
23. MeoCao (unregistered)
MS is doing that everywhere in 3rd world to fend off Linux and open source software.
30. gazmatic (Posts: 572; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)
i was wondering how i was going to suggest that to phonearena.... where is the "tip us" section?
i know it has nothing to do with "phones" per se but i could use this to charge my devices
11. GALAXY-STORM (Posts: 328; Member since: 13 Oct 2012)
They didn't have a choice except to deal with apple as they lack the resources like samsung to stand up and fight toe to toe against them.
Htc better watch out against ipatent bully.
13. rusticguy (Posts: 2826; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
Samsung is proving to be a big PITA for apple :)
21. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5620; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
In more ways than patents. Sammy is actually offering consumers toys that they want to buy.
25. ray77 (Posts: 121; Member since: 17 Nov 2012)
their went to the dark side of evil an the empire strikes back again
28. maxspecs (Posts: 31; Member since: 29 Aug 2012)
@phonearena i need your experience and recommendation, I am a man who cares only about processor, cpu, gpu and i want the cheapest phone possible to provide that. so would please make an article about cheap but yet powerful phones with a list in ascending order for increasing price and processor power. sorry for troubling and have a happy new year!!! :)
29. gazmatic (Posts: 572; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)
htc ALREADY offer better android devices than its competitors.... they just always seek to handicap them somehow... they never release a complete power phone... it either lacks sd card, removable battery, lte, weak battery, etc
htc should just listen to what consumers want and do it... screw carrier restrictions... if the phone is worth it people will just buy it outright...
sigh... so far only samsung releases "complete" android phones...
now i gotta wait on the xperia z/zl to see sony's offers... i bet they are going to screw me with their overpriced propriety stuff... this is why i didnt buy a vita
kinda sucks that i'm more excited about blackberry 10 than i am about anything(besides tizen and jolla)
32. lubba (Posts: 1310; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)
Too many products, too fast innovation, not allowing themselves time to build on the good products they have. At the end, it will be their downfall when ideas run out. Maybe good thing Apple and MS suing. Can't let these OEMs run amok.