Google's Nexus concept overhaul due in November: lead phones with stock Android, manufacturer UI on the side
0. phoneArena 04 Oct 2012, 02:47 posted on
Pesky manufacturer UIs will be a thing of the past with the new Nexus program about to be introfuced by Google in November, say sources. Each lead phone will have to ship with stock Android and strict hardware guidelines...
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7. PhenomFaz (Posts: 1064; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)
Freedom is what Google has been all about!
This is going to be a game-changer!
new hardware for Android 5.0....looks like I'll have to hold up buying the Note 2 for now till November at least :)
25. ZEUS.the.thunder.god (unregistered)
its gonna be pre awesomeness...!!!
27. ZEUS.the.thunder.god (unregistered)
35. PhenomFaz (Posts: 1064; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)
My Dream Nexus:
5.3 INCH SCREEN (1080P)
S4 Pro Quad
3000+ mAH battery
Super AMOLED HD / SLCD 2
Android 4.2 (update to 5.0 soon!)
2MP FRONT Cam
S Pen/ Stylus prefereed (love Note 2 optimiizations)
13mp rear cam
no physical buttons
chassis - metal and plastic combo (plastic for better reception)
48. The_Innovation (Posts: 538; Member since: 18 Jul 2012)
I think the Note II and the Optimus G will have the specs to handle 5.0. Even XPERIA T will. But of course it's safe to wait and see what NEXUS has up their sleeve for us.
50. PhenomFaz (Posts: 1064; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)
I agree with you. i am pretty sure the optimus g and note 2 can handle it...what worries me though is why did google tell the nexus manufacturers to make "certain" hardware changes to take full advantage of android 5.0?
note 2 can even crunch android 6.0 but it cant grow an extra part for hardware :)
51. The_Innovation (Posts: 538; Member since: 18 Jul 2012)
We'll most likely find out in a month or so.
58. Mittal (Posts: 427; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)
hmmm seeing the reds u r getting without any reason it seems some1 doesnt like u !!
2. Packer29 (Posts: 56; Member since: 10 Sep 2011)
This is going to be awesome stock Android ftw!
4. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3881; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Can't wait for next month. Time for Google to steal the spotlight. Maybe there will be a new device in the top spot for smartphone of the year?
5. cGmC11 (Posts: 109; Member since: 02 Apr 2012)
WOW it's a dream come true! ...anyone will be carrier exclusive or will cost you $799 unlocked and activate it with your pref carrier?
AT&T consumers already have a busy holiday season this year with the Nokia Lumia 920, Samsung Galaxy Note 2, HTC One X+, Sony Xperia TL, HTC 8X, LG Optimus G... and now a Nexus?
6. achangavi (Posts: 21; Member since: 25 Jul 2012)
If google plays their cards right, and that includes standing up to the pesky carriers, this has the potential to benefit the android ecosystem tremendously. Think about it, right now carriers have complete control over every android handset in the US (with the exception of buying them unlocked), which means fragmentation, poor support, delayed updates, LACK of updates, etc. If we have multiple nexus devices on each carrier, which are ALL owned and operated by google (kind of like the iphone......yeah i said it), then all of the "fragmentation problems" can be reduced substantially, and the oversaturated android market can shrink down considerably to a few popular devices like the galaxy s line, and of course the nexuses. This is a good thing because updates would come much quicker, and it can significantly improve android's reputation!
20. pokharkarsaga (Posts: 348; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)
5 different nexus launched with 5 different SOCs like Qualcomm,Exynos,Tegra,OMAP 5,Atom will be the best for quick latest updates on all carriers.
26. Mittal (Posts: 427; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)
u sound mostly right but the Android device market would still be pretty saturated as the devices u mentioned are the top crop. But the lower pyramid is wider, has more demand for mid range or low end Android devices
33. bayusuputra (Posts: 941; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)
remember, remember the 5th of november..
i think if there were to be 5 nexus devices, they will be from Samsung (GNex 2), LG (Optimus G), Sony (?), HTC (OneX5?), Moto (Razr Nexus?)
14. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2384; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)
yep this means we all can have OUR VERY OWN NEXUS to our own liking! simply amazing........dream come true? .........like dr king baby lol
22. Aeires (unregistered)
Bring on an Asus with Padfone docking capability to that mix as well.
One can dream.
11. loken (Posts: 462; Member since: 09 May 2012)
Glad we get to keep sony's launcher :) it rocks
12. rizevnarastek (Posts: 326; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)
I really like the sound of that.... I'm tempted by the One X+ but this is making me want to wait... hope my phone lasts another month + time to release, it's LCD is starting to buckle :S
15. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2384; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)
yea i think this is making us ALL want to wait lol we all been saying it.....and now it seems we were right.......NEXUS IS THE FUTURE OF ANDROID..... :)
17. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3881; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
LG Nexus = Optimus G with stock
Samsung Nexus = GS3 with stock
Motorola Nexus = Razr HD with stock (maybe a slightly better processor and more RAM for the spec hogs)
HTC Nexus = One X+ with stock
Sony Nexus = Xperia TX with stock
Or you know, that super Nexus idea I had was nice.
43. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2384; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)
haha it all sounds nice man.........and im glad you mentioned the xperia TX instead of the T because the T doesnt have a removable battery :)
13. d3nster (Posts: 5; Member since: 02 Oct 2012)
Google Listens... thank god for that..lets wait for November shall we :D
16. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
This sounds nice, and something alot of ppl have been asking for.
If it helps the update process, good.
18. ahomad (Posts: 138; Member since: 15 May 2012)
xperia nexus with S4 pro chip and over 2000mA battery is all I dream of. xperia for the design, nexus for the software and S4 pro and the battery to power it.
44. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2384; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)
haha now THAT would be "the dream come true!" it would be the iphone of android! if you catch my drift
19. kshell1 (Posts: 1143; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
If this happens WIndows8 will be put down quick.
21. wando77 (Posts: 265; Member since: 23 Aug 2012)
Or maybe the 5yr will mean 5" screen (1080p maybe)
23. Aeires (unregistered)
Anything that takes phone control away from the carriers is a great thing. Instead of them pushing a handset that will be outdated soon, it would be nice if they focused on pushing their networks and plans so competitive pricing and coverage would improve.
24. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
ABOUT DAMN TIME!
I seriously hope the "stock + OPTION to add mfctr overlay" bit is true. We've been begging for that exact option for quite a few years. I also HOPE that comes to more and more sets. That way there is zero excuse why the OS cant be updated unless its for hardware reasons.
The whole "will be compatible with 5.0 minimum hardware requirements" bit has me wondering what those will be though. Make it A15 mandatory!!!!! :) Why? Because then all 4 of the nexus devices will be A15 of course. :) :) lol
29. kshell1 (Posts: 1143; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
As long as the gs3 and note 2 are compatible im good
32. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
If quad core exynos doesnt meet the minimum 5.0 requirements, the thing better be a hologram star wars/minority report style interface lol
46. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3881; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Yeah, I think it will be a minimum of S4 or S4 Pro dual. Quad E4 will be golden.
57. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
the S4 is a crap chip. Of course, that's in all the US samsung SGS3's so I'd be surprised if it doesnt make the cut for that reason alone. That's a lot of people that would be pissed off for being dropped. lol.
52. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5540; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
i dunno, remember the OMAP5 demos from CES? they've got some Kinect stuff going on with it and it feels like Minority Report when i use my Kinect. xD
56. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
lol. I dont wave my hands at the kinect very often. I use it for voice commands of the dashboard and netflix. Im so lazy.. lolol. I dont care, I always get a little entertainment out of voice controlling my tv. :)
36. jan25 (Posts: 383; Member since: 26 Feb 2012)
that still doesn't make sense. if the minimum hardware requirements are too high, there's no way for android to compete in entry level to mid range devices. that part is pretty puzzling.
42. downphoenix (Posts: 2267; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)
Maybe they're thinking doing like Microsoft with WP7/8 (7 for Low to mids, and 8 for high and maybe the higher tier of the mids).
I dont think the requirements will be that bad though, given that ICS and Jellybean aren't really that demanding, most android devicse that are released these days meet or exceed those requirements, heck there's phones that came out in 2010 that can run these, its just they dont due to Carriers and Manufacturers not updating.
I like the idae of choosing between stock or manufacturer UI, but I hope this doesnt somehow delay the updates due to manufacturers having to tailor the update for their UI. Hopefully this means that 4.2 and beyond will build in support for custom UI elements like those which can lead to updates that dont need to be tailored to them, or require minimal work compared to the current setup.
28. speckledapple (Posts: 877; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)
This customization center sounds like a very interesting take on appealing to those who like to change the fundamentals of their design while keeping the same device as is. I wonder if this means that it would be easier to get updates out as manufactuerers can spend their sweet time running away with their own UI in the customization center while the stock android is updated. Intriguing thought indeed.
31. omacmagics (Posts: 42; Member since: 27 Dec 2011)
There is no doubt in my mind anymore, I just have to get one of these Nexus devices and knowing it will be capable for 5.0 update is just sweeter.
34. hulumanu (Posts: 11; Member since: 26 Jul 2012)
Google is the new Microsoft - think about it...
then - Intel x86 + M$ Windows..
now - Nexus - Android
with 1 very BIG exception.... Google is PRO-Consumer!!! Wooo-hoooo!!!! Can you say Nexus HCL?
37. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6139; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
PLEASE LET IT BE ON ALL CARRIERS!! I'm trying to hold off till then
47. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3881; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Or at least let it be compatible with HSPA+ 42 and LTE with the unlocked version. That would be great as well.
38. networkdood (Posts: 6250; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
Looking forward to a 4GB ram, 6-core GPU and CPU phone with 39 MP for both cameras and HD-X screen with Gorilla Glass 3 and a projector......lol
39. thunder18 (Posts: 96; Member since: 06 Aug 2009)
This could literally be the thing to bring Nexus devices mainstream. Manufacturers can still provide their tweaks to satisfy their need to create a brand identity, but they are no longer able to force it upon the consumer. I can't imagine this not catching on and at that point who will buy the low end phones? You just wait for the Nexus device to become "older" and buy it at a discounted price.
40. jan25 (Posts: 383; Member since: 26 Feb 2012)
sounds like Google is trying to gradually set the Nexus devices as android manufacturers' flagships. through competition and a growing demand for these devices that give android users more freedom, every one will want to buy a Nexus. for example, when Samsung sees that more people are buying Nexus phones than their S series, they will focus on the former than the latter.
45. iliketech (Posts: 53; Member since: 17 Aug 2011)
This is Christmas in October...
Now I know what I'm getting for Christmas!!!!!!!!
I'm soooo happy.
and then I will have a CHOICE!
I am liking my Google Nexus GSM phone right now, but better hardware bigger screen. nice. I thought I'd like the Samsung GS3 but I kinda like the Nexus better only probably because it has JB.
Well, that's my 2 cents.
Now, let's see the phones!
54. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2384; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)
I just hope they dont make ALL of them like 5 inches or so......make them at a reasonable size.....4.3-4.7
49. MartyK (Posts: 688; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)
Hold up!, there are few questions!!..
1.Will all these phones (make and model) be able to work on ALL US CARRIERS?.
2.Can I buy my phone Directly from Google if my Carrier decided not to carry the Nexus I want?.
PA you need to get busy to find out these important questions :).
53. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5540; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
aw yeah, this is what i like to hear.
this is exactly what a few of us here came up with for Google to do a couple of years ago. xD
55. Endruu (Posts: 13; Member since: 20 Jun 2012)
Quick thoughts though...since it takes time to code even stock Android to work on different hardwares, wouldn't it mean that having for example, 4-5 different Nexus phones equate to longer waiting times for the latest and greatest from Android to be updated into our phones?
Case in point, Jelly Bean has been out for awhile now, but phones like the Verizon Nexus, as well as the older Nexus S, didn't get it until a few months later.
The concept sounds good bue if it's being executed like the way it is now, I foresee a lot of devices taking quite some times before they receive the update, and that can be embarrassing. =(
59. miki69 (Posts: 11; Member since: 01 Mar 2012)
sorry for an ignorrant question: If I have Sony Nexus, can I also install TouchWiz/Sense customization or not? And once there is a new update for vanilla version (eg Android 4.3) will custom skin still work, or it has to be updated as well?
This idea of having both vanilla and custom skin is great, but it does raise some questions.