Google will directly sell Verizon's Nexus One, not Verizon
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source: Verizon Wireless
1. Kappy posted on 20 Oct 2010, 01:44 0 0
That kinda sucks. I won't be buying the phone now. I want to be able to go into a verizon store to deal with customer service.
10. hmcougar09 posted on 06 Jan 2010, 13:20 0 0
They are only doing this, so that the phone doesn't compete with VZW's flagship device, the DROID, upfront.
13. vupkp44 posted on 06 Jan 2010, 13:35 0 0
I'd also think this has something to do with Verizon's contract with Microsoft to make Bing the default search engine on all of it's phones. This would make sense, since the phone is also being marketed directly by Google. It may also be some semblance (finally) of Verizon's "Any device, any app." campaign. Just a few thoughts.
18. testman22 posted on 06 Jan 2010, 14:47 0 0
I don't think it has to do with any of these things. I think its just googles orders on how they want the phone to be distributed. Theyre doing the same thing with Tmo right now
22. deschats posted on 06 Jan 2010, 17:32 0 0
@vupkp44, if that was true, verizon wouldnt be able to sell the droid eris and the droid upfront.
2. theGodpapa posted on 06 Jan 2010, 12:23 0 0
awesome...... bring on the masses that want to gamble with Google !!! I am getting one for sure, I can maintenance it myself. Just want to know what the insurance is going to be like?
3. BlackberryUser posted on 06 Jan 2010, 12:25 0 0
Wasn't this the reason the iPhone supposedly didn't go to Verizon?
6. PapaJay224 posted on 06 Jan 2010, 12:37 0 0
the difference is VZ is actually MAKING money from Google, everyone loses with the iPhone...the best example of the iPhone i can give is, Fools gold...
14. jundibasam posted on 06 Jan 2010, 13:38 0 0
actually, it may have been A reason but definitely not the top reason. Main reason was data revenue sharing and app store proprietarianism. A former VZW president (Rick Conrad) said that Apple wanted 50% of data revenue and they wanted all apps to go through the app store, including music. VZW basically didn't want to give up their growing V Cast Music and app databases to get the iphone AND still have to share half of their data revenue with Apple.
23. deschats posted on 06 Jan 2010, 17:34 0 0
jundibasam, your totally correct but im just confused because apple didnt release its app store til last year...
30. cellgeek82 posted on 06 Jan 2010, 21:22 0 0
You're right. I talked to several Verizon staff and they said the reason they didn't want to take Apple's iPhone on their network was because Apple wanted too much control. A network only gains a clogged network with the iPhone, but Apple wants the final say in the matter. Now that the Droid is on Verizon, who cares about the "yesterday" iPhone? DROID ftw
5. rehnhart posted on 06 Jan 2010, 12:35 0 0
This kinda sux! I was going to renew my contract and get the subsidized phone, but I guess I will have to buy it straight up. Not the end of the world, will finally be off contract but not really any benefit there.
7. darthray posted on 06 Jan 2010, 12:50 0 0
I agree it does suck.. in april Im eligible for an upgrade for verizon and I can use that discount? Hope the article is wrong since its unoffical.
8. crappypunk posted on 06 Jan 2010, 12:51 0 0
Lol I won't believe anything I read on phone arena till it actually happens.. sometimes they get a good story, but more often than not they're completely wrong.
11. vzwman posted on 06 Jan 2010, 13:27 0 0
Me too. But my girl likes the n, she already has the Eris so I might be buying the n1 when ever it's available for vz.
12. *HOVA* posted on 06 Jan 2010, 13:31 0 0
It's not going to be available at ANY discount to current TMO customers, only new subscribers. Don't be surprised if it's the same with Verizon...
16. psipher posted on 06 Jan 2010, 13:57 0 0
not true: http://www.google.com/support/
android/bin/answer.py?hl=en&anNexus One with new, 2-year T-Mobile US service plan for qualifying existing T-Mobile customers who are adding data plans: $279 Nexus One with new, 2-year T-Mobile US service plan for qualifying existing T-Mobile customers who are upgrading their data plans: $379 swer=171784
17. CRICKETownz posted on 06 Jan 2010, 14:07 0 0
The keyword is "T-Mobile". I would like to think VZW has a little more wiggle-room financially to offer both options of retail price or 2yr. agreement price. Since most carriers make the revenue spent on purchasing the amount of phones from the manufacturer back through the length of contracts it seems like a win-win for everybody. Purchase the N1 at full retail from Google, Google wins as a company for the purchase price and VZW's win is in complete positive data revenue. Purchase the N1 at the contract price Google wins by getting a percentage of the data revenue from VZW (assuming not as high as what Apple was expecting) and VZW still gains a good amount of positive data revenue plus obvious revenue from the huge amount of customers who pay for high tiered price plans let alone those who go over their mins, extra data charges, downloads etc. VZW seems to make sound business decisions...and Google doesn't seem to possess the same greed/stupidity level of Apple who just HAS to control/milk any partnership to the fullest, which if they would have been smarter, probably would have made more revenue if they would have compromised with VZW seeing as VZW has the infrastructure to support their omnipotent iPhone and AT&T doesn't *coughs*...just a thought..not a fact. Let's see how many stones will be thrown at this post...
19. *HOVA* posted on 06 Jan 2010, 14:48 0 0
I can't check those links while crippled at work, but from someone who was at the press event: http://www.engadget.com/2010/0
28. Sufcc posted on 06 Jan 2010, 20:09 0 0
Google's ultimate goal with the Nexus One and Android phones is to get Google into everyone's hands and penetrate the mobile ad market. They have no intention making any sort of profit on selling the hardware itself.
33. CRICKETownz posted on 07 Jan 2010, 19:28 0 0
You sure about that? I would think that ANY business produces a product with the main goal of being able to reap a profit from that product created. I'm sure that is a part of the "ultimate" goal as well. I don't think Google just created the phone out of the goodness of their hearts just to promote mobile ads. If that was the case why put such a high price tag on the device? That's a very kind-hearted theory tho...you get a +1 from me. They say "It's the thought that counts".
15. dandirk (unregistered) posted on 06 Jan 2010, 13:53 0 0
I think I am going to try and return my droid because of this news. obviously there is competition issues here but google could be trying to get phones away from subsidies? This may be a good thing, if these phones were in the open market, the price would go down and probably faster. The only major issue with this, is that each carrier is different. CDMA sprint and verizon, gsm att and tmo. Even then though a gsm phone may still not work right with att but will with tmo like the nexus... What would be cool is if they could come up with cdma/gsm phones and have the carrier agree to some sort of standardized config app. You enter your login/password and it would configure the phone for your carrier... good luck on that fat chance.
21. gzoneman posted on 06 Jan 2010, 15:32 0 0
All I want is a Verizon IPHONE. Why wont you let me buy a Verizon Iphone?????????????? Dont care what it costs, just bring it!!!!
25. deschats posted on 06 Jan 2010, 17:37 0 0
iphones are so old and their software is crippling... why would you still want that when they have the droid?
26. YouLostTheGame posted on 06 Jan 2010, 19:32 0 0
I have a feeling, a situation like this could present itself w/ the iPhone on VZW this year as well. Buy the phone through Apple, and then activate it on VZWs network. As for getting the phone serviced, I'd much rather deal with Apple w/ their phone than VZW. I once went in to get service on my BB, and not a single person in the store was willing to help me. I called customer service, and was told that smartphone customers are left on their own to service their own devices. No support whatsoever. This was back when BB Desktop Manager wasn't available for my Mac. So even if you buy a smartphone through VZW, you're still left to yourself to take care of the problems. As far as I'm concerned, if VZWs gonna have that kind of attitude toward smartphone customers, I'm more than happy to let my contract go up, pay full price for a phone, activate it on their network and stay out of contract. Don't get me wrong, I'm a loyal VZW customer...have been for the last 8 years, but at this point, with everyone wanting every phone out there, the idea of buying a phone, independent from a wireless carrier sounds good to me.
27. Sufcc posted on 06 Jan 2010, 20:07 0 0
Wow, you must have had a really bad experience... there is dedicated tech support just for smartphones and blackberries over the phone. As an indirect seller I service our customers till I find some sort of fix, first trying to fix it myself then calling support if I can not. No customer support rep would ever you tell you that you are on your own. And if they did they should be let go.
36. dubracer223 posted on 10 Jan 2010, 01:01 0 0
wow mustve just been the store cuz at my store we spend up to hours with smart phones and laptops in order to get it taken care of.
29. VZWEMPLOYEE posted on 06 Jan 2010, 21:08 0 0
YouLostTheGame your an idiot that was either 2 years ago or your phone was wet and you didnt have insurance so we told you to pack sand. I-phone will be here on VZW by 3rd quarter.
31. darthray posted on 07 Jan 2010, 12:21 0 0
really? how do you know iphone will be on verizon's carrier in 3rd qt?
34. CANUHEARMENOW posted on 07 Jan 2010, 21:44 0 0
He doesnt know what he is talking about. There has been absolutely NO word on this happening.
35. YouLostTheGame posted on 08 Jan 2010, 09:14 0 0
Actually, it's YOU that are the idiot, VZWEMPLOYEE. I actually wanted some assistance downloading .148 OS when it was released. BB Desktop Manager wasn't available for my BB, and the OTA download was anything but useful. So I went into the store to see if VZW could load the OS update to my phone. To which I was told "No. We don't handle software updates for smartphones at our stores; you'll need to contact tech support by phone." So I called tech and that's when I was told that smartphone owners were left on their own to service their own devices. And as far as you claiming VZW will get iPhone by 3Q, WOW! I have been making that same prediction for months now! I especially know how full of shit you are due to that fact that in one of your previous posts, you claim VZW will get the iPhone in 1Q or 2Q THIS year! The exclusive with ATT isn't even up til the end of June, your moron! Some VZW employee you are. You're prolly one of the guys who doesn't fully disclose info to customers, and just adds data to people's plans w/o their knowledge.
32. Steven58 posted on 07 Jan 2010, 14:25 0 0
Does this mean that I will have to pay full price for the phone or will there be a 2 year contract price?